Larry Fiato, identified in the record as a government informant, was called as a defense witness by Robert Shapiro during the criminal trial on September 19, 1995. He testified that Detective Vannatter had said Simpson was a suspect, challenging Vannatter's testimony that Simpson was not a suspect when detectives went to Rockingham. Craig Fiato described only a general statement that the husband is always the suspect, while FBI Agent Michael Wacks testified that he heard a suspect-related statement. Before Fiato's examination, Judge Ito ordered photographers and sketch artists excluded from the courtroom; the proceeding record also lists Fiato as a witness in a civil-trial examination on January 8, 1997.