📄 Direct examination of Denise Lewis — Tuesday, June 27, 1995
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Direct examination of Denise Lewis

Witness: Denise Lewis
Examiner: Marcia Clark
Called by: Prosecution • Date: Tuesday, June 27, 1995 • Utterances: 284
Denise Lewis, an LAPD evidence technician, continues her direct examination describing the methodical processing of Nicole Brown Simpson's clothing received from the Coroner's office. She walks through the numbering (items 82-87), individual packaging, sealing, and overnight secure storage of the dress, panties, and biological evidence kits, before explaining how everything was transported to the evidence control unit on June 28th.
1 THE COURT:

All right. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. Please be seated. Let the record reflect that we have been rejoined by all of our jury members. Good morning, ladies and gentlemen.

THE JURY: Good morning.

2 THE COURT:

All right. Miss Lewis, would you resume the witness stand, please.

Denise Lewis, the witness on the stand at the time of the evening adjournment, resumed the stand and testified further as follows:

3 THE COURT:

All right. Good morning, Miss Lewis.

4 MS. LEWIS:

Good morning.

5 THE COURT:

You are reminded, ma'am, you are still under oath. If you would just pull the microphone a little closer. Miss Clark, you may conclude your direct examination.

6 MS. CLARK:

Thank you, your Honor. Good morning, ladies and gentlemen.

THE JURY: Good morning.

DIRECT EXAMINATION (RESUMED) BY MS. CLARK

7 MS. CLARK:

When we left off you said that you were going to--you were beginning with the property for Nicole Brown Simpson, correct?

8 MS. LEWIS:

Correct.

9 MS. CLARK:

And at that point you had clean butcher paper down, clean gloves and you were wearing your lab coat, correct?

10 MS. LEWIS:

Yes.

11 MS. CLARK:

Now, as toward Nicole Brown, how many brown bags were there from the Coroner's office in her mesh bag?

12 MS. LEWIS:

Only one.

13 MS. CLARK:

And was there some marking on that bag?

14 MS. LEWIS:

Yes, there was.

15 MS. CLARK:

And what was marked on it, if you recall?

16 MS. LEWIS:

"Panties, dress."

17 MS. CLARK:

I have here a photograph, your Honor. Ask that it be marked People's next in order--

18 THE COURT:

429.

19 MS. CLARK:

--429 is it?

20 THE COURT:

429, Mrs. Robertson.

21 MS. CLARK:

Thank you.

22 THE COURT:

429.

23 (Peo's 429 for id = photograph)
24 MS. CLARK:

And showing you the photograph marked as 429, can you tell us if you recognize what you see on the monitor right now?

25 MS. LEWIS:

Yes, I do.

26 MS. CLARK:

And what is that?

27 MS. LEWIS:

That is the original brown paper bag that came from the Coroner's office containing Miss Brown's clothing.

28 MS. CLARK:

And when you found it in the mesh bag, was it folded over?

29 MS. LEWIS:

Yes, it was.

30 MS. CLARK:

Was it sealed shut?

31 MS. LEWIS:

Yes, it was.

32 MS. CLARK:

And did you open that bag?

33 MS. LEWIS:

Yes, I did.

34 MS. CLARK:

And when you opened that bag what did you see inside?

35 MS. LEWIS:

A single dress and a pair of black panties.

36 MS. CLARK:

Any bindles, paper bindles like you did before with Mr. Ron Goldman's property?

37 MS. LEWIS:

No, ma'am.

38 MS. CLARK:

Upon seeing that the bag contained dress and panties with no other bindles, what did you do?

39 MS. LEWIS:

At the time I proceeded to remove the items from the bag and lay the items down on the white butcher block paper that I had down.

40 MS. CLARK:

Did you do anything with respect to the items in the frozen analysis envelope of physical evidence that had been sent over to you from the Coroner's office; namely, Nicole Brown's EDTA swatch, hair kit, fingernail kit and blood scrapings?

41 MS. LEWIS:

Yes. They were at that time numbered. Since there were--there was no additional physical evidence discovered with the clothing items from the Coroner's office, I proceeded to continue with the numbering system for the physical evidence of Miss Brown.

42 (Discussion held off the record between the Deputy District Attorneys.)
43 MS. CLARK:

Do you recall what you numbered those items?

44 MS. LEWIS:

May I refer to my notes?

45 MS. CLARK:

Yes.

46 MS. LEWIS:

(Witness complies.) The EDTA swatch was item number--given item no. 82; the decedent's hair kit, 83; the fingernail kit, 84. There were two packages that were physical evidence packets that were labeled by the Coroner's office as blood scrapings. They both were given item no. 85.

47 MS. CLARK:

Item no. 85 collectively?

48 MS. LEWIS:

Correct.

49 MS. CLARK:

Showing you now the photograph that has previously been marked as People's 414, do you see the item depicted with the number "83" in the upper right-hand corner?

50 MS. LEWIS:

Yes, I do.

51 MS. CLARK:

And is that Nicole Brown's decedent's hair kit?

52 MS. LEWIS:

Could I have a focus of the actual envelope?

53 MS. CLARK:

Yes.

54 MS. LEWIS:

Yes, it is.

55 MS. CLARK:

And is that your handwriting in which the number "75" is crossed out?

56 MS. LEWIS:

Yes, it is.

57 MS. CLARK:

And are those your initials next to that?

58 MS. LEWIS:

Yes, they are.

59 MS. CLARK:

And the number "83," is that your writing?

60 MS. LEWIS:

Yes, it is.

61 MS. CLARK:

So is that the number that you assigned to her hair kit in this case?

62 MS. LEWIS:

Yes, it is.

63 MS. CLARK:

And that--if we could back up a minute. Those smaller envelopes that you see to the right, were they sealed inside--you did not see them, correct?

64 MS. LEWIS:

No, I did not.

65 MS. CLARK:

They were presumably sealed inside that larger envelope to the left?

66 MS. LEWIS:

Correct.

67 MS. CLARK:

And that envelope was sealed? You did not open it?

68 MS. LEWIS:

Exactly.

69 MS. CLARK:

After you numbered the smaller envelopes and the decedent's envelope, decedent's hair kit envelope, as 82 through 85, what did you do next?

70 MS. LEWIS:

Then the white frozen envelope--analyzed evidence envelope was sealed.

71 MS. CLARK:

And by that you are referring to the envelope depicted earlier in People's 413?

72 (No audible response.)
73 MS. CLARK:

That one?

74 MS. LEWIS:

Yes.

75 MS. CLARK:

Okay. And after you completed the renumbering of the decedent's hair kit and the other physical items that you indicate were in envelopes, what did you do next?

76 MS. LEWIS:

Well, this item was placed back in the freezer in the supply room area.

77 MS. CLARK:

In a sealed condition?

78 MS. LEWIS:

Sealed condition, and then I proceeded to go back to put on new gloves and return to the butcher block paper which had Miss Brown's clothing on it.

79 MS. CLARK:

And did you take her dress out?

80 MS. LEWIS:

Yes.

81 MS. CLARK:

And place it on the butcher paper?

82 MS. LEWIS:

Yes.

83 MS. CLARK:

And there were panties in that as well?

84 MS. LEWIS:

Yes.

85 MS. CLARK:

When you removed her dress from the bag, was there any obvious hair or trace that you could see just on your cursory glance?

86 MS. LEWIS:

None that I observed.

87 THE COURT:

Which photo was this?

88 MS. CLARK:

Yes. This will be marked now, your Honor, People's 430.

89 THE COURT:

All right. People's 430.

90 (Peo's 430 for id = photograph)
91 MS. CLARK:

And showing you now the photograph marked as People's 430, can you tell us if you recognize what is depicted there?

92 MS. LEWIS:

Yes, I do.

93 MS. CLARK:

What is it?

94 MS. LEWIS:

It is the black dress that was received from the Coroner's office.

95 MS. CLARK:

And the bag that is in the--that is to the upper right of that dress, do you recognize that?

96 MS. LEWIS:

Yes, I do.

97 MS. CLARK:

What is that?

98 MS. LEWIS:

It is the bag that I placed the dress into after I booked the item.

99 MS. CLARK:

Okay. The bags that were initially shown in People's 429, was that the original bag that you received from the Coroner's office, the earlier photograph that was marked "Dress and panties"?

100 MS. LEWIS:

Yes, it was.

101 MS. CLARK:

The one that is now in front of you?

102 MS. LEWIS:

Yes, it is.

103 MS. CLARK:

All right. Thank you. When you removed the dress from that bag, you then created a new bag for the dress?

104 MS. LEWIS:

Yes, I did.

105 MS. CLARK:

And the one shown in this photograph People's 430 is that bag?

106 MS. LEWIS:

Yes, it is.

107 MS. CLARK:

Now, after you examined the dress and put it into that bag, did you examine the butcher paper that it had been laying on for hair or trace?

108 MS. LEWIS:

Yes, I did.

109 MS. CLARK:

Did you see any?

110 MS. LEWIS:

No, ma'am.

111 MS. CLARK:

How about your gloves, did you look at them for hair or trace?

112 MS. LEWIS:

Yes, I did.

113 MS. CLARK:

Did you see any?

114 MS. LEWIS:

No.

115 MS. CLARK:

After you made the markings on the bag shown in People's 430, what did do you with it?

116 MS. LEWIS:

The bag was sealed and then it was placed on the counter with the other sealed items.

117 MS. CLARK:

Did you give it an item number?

118 MS. LEWIS:

Yes, it was.

119 MS. CLARK:

What was that?

120 MS. LEWIS:

Item 86.

121 MS. CLARK:

Okay. And is that number shown on the bag in the photograph People's 430?

122 MS. LEWIS:

Yes, it does--yes, it is.

123 MS. CLARK:

And what did you do after that?

124 MS. LEWIS:

Proceeded to look at the panties.

125 MS. CLARK:

Did you change paper or gloves before looking at the panties?

126 MS. LEWIS:

No, I did not.

127 MS. CLARK:

And why is that?

128 MS. LEWIS:

Because they came from the same bag from the Coroner's office, so if there was any cross-contamination, it had already occurred.

KEY QUOTE
129 MS. CLARK:

Showing you a new photograph, your Honor, ask that it be marked People's 431.

130 THE COURT:

People's 431.

131 MS. CLARK:

Thank you.

132 (Peo's 431 for id = photograph)
133 MS. CLARK:

Do you recognize what is being shown here?

134 MS. LEWIS:

Yes, I do.

135 MS. CLARK:

What is that?

136 MS. LEWIS:

They are the black panties that I received from the Coroner's office that were part of Miss Brown's clothing.

137 MS. CLARK:

They were originally contained with the dress in the same bag, correct?

138 MS. LEWIS:

Yes, it was.

139 MS. CLARK:

The bag that is to the left of those panties, do you recognize that?

140 MS. LEWIS:

Yes, I do.

141 MS. CLARK:

And--

142 MS. LEWIS:

That is the bag that I placed the panties into when I finished booking them.

143 MS. CLARK:

Is that your handwriting on the bag?

144 MS. LEWIS:

Yes, it is.

145 MS. CLARK:

Did you see any obvious hair or trace on the panties?

146 MS. LEWIS:

None was observed.

147 MS. CLARK:

After you got done with them, where did you put them?

148 MS. LEWIS:

They were placed into the bag, the bag was sealed and it was placed on the counter.

149 MS. CLARK:

Was there any--

150 MS. LEWIS:

I'm sorry, before I sealed the bag I would have looked at the butcher block paper and my gloves once again because at that stage that was the last item from the Coroner's office.

151 MS. CLARK:

And did you see any hair or trace on the butcher paper or on your gloves?

152 MS. LEWIS:

No, I did not.

153 MS. CLARK:

And what did you do with your gloves and the butcher paper?

154 MS. LEWIS:

The gloves, the butcher paper were both discarded.

155 MS. CLARK:

And did you give the panties an item number?

156 MS. LEWIS:

Yes, I did.

157 MS. CLARK:

And what is that?

158 MS. LEWIS:

Item no. 87.

159 MS. CLARK:

And the--the number that is on the bag, as it was in the previous bags that you made for the items, do they all contain the DR number for this case?

160 MS. LEWIS:

Yes, they do.

161 MS. CLARK:

At this point then were all the bags of clothing for both Ronald Goldman and Nicole Brown in their sealed bags that you created for them?

162 MS. LEWIS:

Yes, they were.

163 MS. CLARK:

And they were all given item numbers at this point?

164 MS. LEWIS:

They were given item numbers all the way along. As I would put them in the bag they were given the item numbers. There was a slight delay on--for Mr. Goldman's items initially because I had to wait obviously until I had all the items that I had.

165 MS. CLARK:

Okay. Now, the original brown bags that you received the clothing in from the Coroner's office, what did do you with them?

166 MS. LEWIS:

They were--as I had taken each individual item out of the bags, I had folded them over and basically kept them secure. Once then I gathered them all together and put the bags together and then bound them with some cotton string.

167 (Discussion held off the record between the Deputy District Attorneys.)
168 MS. CLARK:

And you bound them with twine, is it?

169 MS. LEWIS:

Yes.

170 MS. CLARK:

And where did you put them?

171 MS. LEWIS:

Had when I--my next step basically would have been to put the packaging together, the bags together to house the--all the clothing evidence for both victims, so the box was placed together. The items of clothing from both victims were placed in the box and the paper that--the bags that were received from the Coroner's office that I had at this point wrapped with twine or string was also placed into the box, as well as the white mesh that came from the Coroner's office.

172 MS. CLARK:

Okay. So the white mesh bags that initially held the bags for Ron Goldman, one for Ron Goldman and one for Nicole Brown, you put that in the box as well?

173 MS. LEWIS:

Yes.

174 MS. CLARK:

And into that same box went the sealed bags of their clothing?

175 MS. LEWIS:

Yes.

176 MS. CLARK:

And the bags that initially were given to you by the Coroner, the brown bags that you wrapped in twine?

177 MS. LEWIS:

Yes.

178 (Discussion held off the record between the Deputy District Attorneys.)
179 MS. CLARK:

People's next in order, your Honor, People's 432.

180 THE COURT:

People's 432, a photo of a box.

181 MS. CLARK:

Thank you, your Honor.

182 (Peo's 432 for id = photograph)
183 MS. CLARK:

Showing you People's 432, do you recognize what is shown here?

184 MS. LEWIS:

Yes, I do.

185 MS. CLARK:

What is that?

186 MS. LEWIS:

That is the box that I put together and it contains the items, the bound paper bags for the Coroner's office. Also I see a white mesh bag. I can't tell if it is one or two bags.

187 MS. CLARK:

Does that look like the white mesh--one of the white mesh bags, though, that you received from the Coroner's office that contained the items for Ron Goldman and Nicole Brown?

188 MS. LEWIS:

Yes, it does.

189 MS. CLARK:

And so is that a picture of the box into which you placed all of the items you just described having placed in the box?

190 MS. LEWIS:

Yes, it is.

191 MS. CLARK:

And after you did that, placed the victim's clothing, the bags and the mesh bags into that box, what did you do?

192 MS. LEWIS:

Then the box was sealed.

193 MS. CLARK:

People's next in order, People's 433, your Honor.

194 THE COURT:

433.

195 (Peo's 433 for id = photograph)
196 MS. CLARK:

Showing you People's 433, I'm going to ask you to zoom up on the tag. Do you recognize this box?

197 MS. LEWIS:

I recognize the box, but that is not my writing on the tag.

198 MS. CLARK:

Okay. Does it show your name on the tag?

199 MS. LEWIS:

Yes, it does.

200 MS. CLARK:

And does it show item numbers in that--on that tag?

201 MS. LEWIS:

Yes, it does.

202 MS. CLARK:

And is that 78 to 80, 86 and 87?

203 MS. LEWIS:

Yes, it is.

204 MS. CLARK:

Are those in fact the item numbers for the items that you did put into the box?

205 MS. LEWIS:

Excuse me. I think it is a 78, which would be appropriate.

206 MS. CLARK:

Uh-huh.

207 MS. LEWIS:

It should be 78 through 80 and 86 and 87.

208 MS. CLARK:

And those are the item numbers for the items that you did put in the box; is that correct?

209 MS. LEWIS:

Yes, they are.

210 (Discussion held off the record between the Deputy District Attorneys.)
211 MS. CLARK:

And does that look like the box that you put everything into, that you've just described?

212 MS. LEWIS:

Yes, it does.

213 MS. CLARK:

Did you seal that box?

214 MS. LEWIS:

Yes, I did.

215 MS. CLARK:

With what?

216 MS. LEWIS:

It is sealed with packing tape, two directions, and at then at that stage I put a Los Angeles Police Department evidence tag over it or evidence tape and also a tag.

217 MS. CLARK:

Now, what about the--

218 (Discussion held off the record between the Deputy District Attorneys.)
219 MS. CLARK:

People's next in order, your Honor, People's 4--

220 THE COURT:

34.

221 MS. CLARK:

--34, thank you.

222 (Peo's 434 for id = photograph)
223 MS. CLARK:

Showing you People's 434, we are going to zoom in on that white tag. Do you recognize what is shown to you in this photograph?

224 MS. LEWIS:

Yes, I do.

225 MS. CLARK:

Is that your handwriting?

226 MS. LEWIS:

Yes, it is.

227 MS. CLARK:

And what does that signify to you?

228 MS. LEWIS:

That is the Los Angeles Police Department evidence tape that we use. It is the seal that we also used to put on our envelopes and on our cartons for--to make sure it is a final seal that we put on it.

229 MS. CLARK:

Okay. Now, this is not the seal that you put on on the 27th or the 28th, correct?

230 MS. LEWIS:

Correct.

231 MS. CLARK:

But it is like the seal that you used on that date?

232 MS. LEWIS:

Yes.

233 MS. CLARK:

Now, you earlier indicated that you had given item no. 75 to 77 to the paper bindles containing soil and debris from Ron Goldman's packages?

234 MS. LEWIS:

Yes.

235 MS. CLARK:

And what did do you with those bindles?

236 MS. LEWIS:

Those bindles were placed in a brown manila envelope that we have. It is marked on the envelope as shelf storage.

237 (Discussion held off the record between the Deputy District Attorneys.)
238 MS. CLARK:

And People's 435, your Honor.

239 THE COURT:

People's 435.

240 (Peo's 435 for id = photograph)
241 MS. CLARK:

Do you recognize what is shown to you in this photograph?

242 MS. LEWIS:

Yes, I do.

243 MS. CLARK:

What is that?

244 MS. LEWIS:

That is the analyzed evidence shelf storage envelope that I placed items 75 through 77.

245 MS. CLARK:

Is that your handwriting on the envelope?

246 MS. LEWIS:

Yes, it is.

247 MS. CLARK:

Was that sealed by you?

248 MS. LEWIS:

Yes, it was.

249 MS. CLARK:

Now, after having sealed the soil bindles into that envelope, what did you do next?

250 MS. LEWIS:

The soil and the box of clothing, the carton, were placed on the side and at that point then I went to complete the police report.

251 MS. CLARK:

And what kind of report is it that you complete?

252 MS. LEWIS:

It is a property report.

253 MS. CLARK:

Just itemizing what it is you saw?

254 MS. LEWIS:

Yes, and describing the items.

255 MS. CLARK:

And the item numbers that you gave to them?

256 MS. LEWIS:

Yes.

257 MS. CLARK:

Now, you began your work in this case on the 27th of June?

258 MS. LEWIS:

I received the items on the 27th of June, yes.

259 MS. CLARK:

Okay. And you completed your work on the--what day?

260 MS. LEWIS:

On June 28th.

261 MS. CLARK:

Overnight where were the items stored?

262 MS. LEWIS:

The carton of clothing and the shelf storage envelope were housed or kept inside the evidence processing room. The frozen analyzed evidence envelope was--remained in the freezer in the storage area. Both areas are secured.

263 MS. CLARK:

And by "Secured," what do you mean?

264 MS. LEWIS:

The only way to get into these two rooms is you have to have an i.d. Badge that the investigation division has and only certain individuals can get into these areas.

KEY QUOTE
265 MS. CLARK:

Now, were all the of clothing sealed overnight then?

266 MS. LEWIS:

Yes, they were.

267 MS. CLARK:

In the box?

268 MS. LEWIS:

Yes, they were.

269 MS. CLARK:

And also individually in their bags?

270 MS. LEWIS:

Yes.

271 MS. CLARK:

On the following day on June 28th was there any disturbance to any of the seals on the bags or on the box?

272 MS. LEWIS:

No, there wasn't.

273 MS. CLARK:

And the hair of both of the victims that you kept in the frozen envelope in the freezer, had that been disturbed?

274 MS. LEWIS:

No, it had not.

275 MS. CLARK:

After you typed up your report, what did you do with the box containing the clothing, the frozen analysis envelope containing the hair kits and the soil and debris envelope?

276 MS. LEWIS:

After the report was typed up, I went and picked up the items from the evidence processing room and from the storage room and then transported them over to our evidence control unit where I booked the items.

277 MS. CLARK:

Your Honor, I have a large board and ask that it be marked People's 436.

278 THE COURT:

436.

279 (Peo's 436 for id = posterboard)
280 (Brief pause.)
281 THE COURT:

Go ahead and step down and take a look.

282 MS. CLARK:

I'm going to direct your attention specifically to the items in the upper left-hand corner, 73, 79, 81, 83 and 86. Are those the items with the item numbers that are depicted there, the same as you've testified to here in court?

283 MS. LEWIS:

Yes, they are.

284 MS. CLARK:

Thank you. I have nothing further.

Temperature

routine

Key Quotes (3)

Cheri Lewis
Because they came from the same bag from the Coroner's office, so if there was any cross-contamination, it had already occurred.
Lewis explains why she did not change gloves between handling Nicole's dress and panties — a key chain-of-custody rationale that could be challenged by the defense.
Cheri Lewis
The only way to get into these two rooms is you have to have an i.d. Badge that the investigation division has and only certain individuals can get into these areas.
Establishes the security of overnight evidence storage, preempting any defense argument about tampering or unauthorized access.
Cheri Lewis
On June 28th was there any disturbance to any of the seals on the bags or on the box? No, there wasn't.
Direct testimony confirming chain-of-custody integrity — all seals were intact when work resumed the following morning.

Evidence (12)

People's 429
Photograph of original brown paper bag from Coroner's office labeled 'Panties, dress' containing Nicole Brown Simpson's clothing
introduced and identified
People's 414
Previously marked photograph showing Nicole Brown's hair kit envelope with item number 83
discussed
People's 430
Photograph of Nicole Brown's black dress and the new evidence bag Lewis created for it (item 86)
introduced and identified
People's 431
Photograph of Nicole Brown's black panties and the evidence bag Lewis created (item 87)
introduced and identified
People's 432
Photograph of the cardboard box into which Lewis placed all sealed clothing items and original Coroner bags
introduced and identified
People's 433
Photograph of the sealed evidence box with tag showing item numbers 78-80, 86, and 87
introduced and identified
+ 6 more

Notable Exchanges (1)

Marcia ClarkCheri Lewis
Lewis clarifies, unprompted, that she examined butcher paper and gloves after the panties before sealing the bag, correcting her earlier answer — demonstrating methodical recall and credibility.
precise

Witness Demeanor

(Witness complies.) — referring to notes when asked to recall item numbers
Calm, methodical, and precise throughout; self-corrects testimony unprompted to ensure accuracy

Objections

None recorded
Proceeding 7911 • 284 utterances • Prosecution witness
Criminal Trial
Department 103
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📂 JUN 27, 1995 📄 Direct examination of Denise L
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