Sidebar: measurement demonstration

📄 Sidebar: measurement demonstration — Wednesday, June 21, 1995

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TRIAL

▲ Day 100 of 167

◀ Direct examination of Richard Rubin (part 1) Direct examination of Richard Rubin (part 2) ▶

Date: Wednesday, June 21, 1995 • Utterances: 7

During a sidebar, Cochran objected to the prosecution using a Mr. Bell to demonstrate glove measurements, arguing his involvement was irrelevant. Judge Ito overruled the objection, suggesting Clark herself could be used as the demonstrator instead, which prompted a brief light exchange about glove sizes.

# 1 (The following proceedings were held at the bench:)

# 2 THE COURT:

On the record.

# 3 MR. COCHRAN:

My objection is that the Court recalls that we said that--you know, dancing around with all this stuff. I just don't see that as being that important, and if they are going to make some measurements, let them do it in front of the jury but why is Bell relevant? It is a relevance objection. And if he wants to do that, that is fine, but I'm just saying that we object. I mean, Mr. Simpson has a right to go over and happy to describe it.

# 4 THE COURT:

All right. All he is showing is measuring techniques here. He can shown it on Miss Clark if he wants.

KEY QUOTE

# 5 MR. COCHRAN:

She has little gloves.

KEY QUOTE

# 6 MS. CLARK:

I'll submit it. I'm extra small. It is ridiculous.

KEY QUOTE

# 7 THE COURT:

I expect you to do the same thing with Mr. Simpson, but it is relevant, so the objection is overruled.

Temperature

light

Key Quotes (4)

Johnnie Cochran

Mr. Simpson has a right to go over and happy to describe it.

Cochran signals Simpson could personally demonstrate, foreshadowing the glove-fitting strategy.

Lance A. Ito

All he is showing is measuring techniques here. He can shown it on Miss Clark if he wants.

Ito reframes the demonstration as purely procedural, deflating the relevance objection.

Johnnie Cochran

She has little gloves.

Cochran's quip undercuts the idea of using Clark — her small hands would not be a useful comparison to Simpson's.

Marcia Clark

I'll submit it. I'm extra small. It is ridiculous.

Clark concedes the point with self-deprecating humor while characterizing the whole debate as absurd.

Evidence (1)

Informal

Gloves — referenced implicitly through discussion of measuring techniques and hand sizes

discussed

Notable Exchanges (1)

Johnnie Cochran•Marcia Clark•Lance A. Ito

After Ito suggests Clark could model the gloves, Cochran jokes she has small hands and Clark wryly agrees, calling the whole exercise ridiculous.

light/bantering

Light Moments (2)

Johnnie Cochran

Cochran quips 'She has little gloves' when Ito suggests using Clark as the measurement model.

Marcia Clark

Clark responds 'I'm extra small. It is ridiculous,' conceding her unsuitability as a stand-in for Simpson.

Objections

1 objections (0 sustained, 1 overruled)

Proceeding 6483 • 7 utterances

Criminal Trial

Department 103