All right. Mr. Shapiro, do you intend to present some evidence with regard to this motion?
Yes, Your Honor. The first piece of evidence that we will present is already part of the court record, and that's the search warrant affidavit --
-- That has been signed under penalty of perjury by Detective Vannatter, and that is part of the court record and part of the proceedings that have been filed with this court. We'd like the court to consider that. In addition, we want to call the criminalist for the Los Angeles Police Department, Mr. Fung, and we have two other civilian witnesses --
Yes, Your Honor, thank you. First of all, I think Mr. Shapiro has failed to lay a foundation. He has not questioned the detective concerning whether this affidavit was written by him or he is the affiant or this is the search warrant for this location. That would be easily laid, so he's failed to do so. Secondly, it's not in issue. We are not litigating this search warrant, and any of the assertions contained therein do not pertain to the state of mind that was prevailing at the moment the decision was made to go over the wall. That is the only state of mind and the only set of circumstances that are now in issue before this court. Therefore, this warrant and any variants that are contained therein are irrelevant.
Yes. The copy that I have is a warrant signed under penalty of perjury by Phillip L. Vannatter, who I believe is the witness here, since he describes himself as being the same person who testified as a police detective for the Los Angeles Police Department, assigned to robbery homicide special section, and he's been a police officer for over 25 years. If there is another Vannatter who has such similar credentials and has been employed with the same exact name and same badge number, then we will take the Court's time to establish the foundation.
well, Mr. Shapiro, what is your legal theory for the admissibility of this document?
This document is evidence. This is evidence that is sworn under penalty of perjury, that is part of the official court record of this case. There are in this warrant, in our opinion, four material misrepresentations that go to impeach the credibility of Detective Vannatter and his testimony here today.
Mr. Shapiro, basically this document is hearsay. The fact that it is under -- declared to be true under penalty of perjury does not relieve it from the category of hearsay. And for an exception to apply -- and there may be some exception to certain portions of that warrant or the affidavit, I don't know that -- but if there are some inconsistent statements with the testimony here, conceivably portions of that may in fact be admissible. But just to offer the affidavit as such in a whole is hearsay without any exception. So I'm going to sustain the objection.
Under Proposition 115, that is not a valid objection, with all due respect to the court. Number two, all --
I'll let you finish, Mr. Shapiro, but Proposition 115 does not apply to the suppression hearing.
KEY QUOTEI believe all relevant evidence is admissible and that hearsay evidence on a prior inconsistent statement is an exception to the hearsay rule and would be admissible. We'll submit the matter, Your Honor.
All right. On just the basis of the affidavit, offering that without any sort of foundation, without any testimony from a live witness with regard to that statement, the hearsay objection and the relevance objections would apply and I would not receive the affidavit in this form.
KEY QUOTEThere are in this warrant, in our opinion, four material misrepresentations that go to impeach the credibility of Detective Vannatter and his testimony here today.
It is offered only for the purpose of impeachment.
But just to offer the affidavit as such in a whole is hearsay without any exception. So I'm going to sustain the objection.
I'll let you finish, Mr. Shapiro, but Proposition 115 does not apply to the suppression hearing.
On just the basis of the affidavit, offering that without any sort of foundation, without any testimony from a live witness with regard to that statement, the hearsay objection and the relevance objections would apply and I would not receive the affidavit in this form.