All right. We will stand in recess until 8:30.

Your Honor, it might be helpful to the court, you wanted references Dr. Gerdes' testimony on the stains.

Yes.

Mr. Clarke has been kind enough to bring them down. He is not sure of the volume numbers, but he has the dates of the testimony.

All right.

Your Honor, there are two witnesses that the Defense, without telling me about or asking anyone, they went directly to the witnesses, Kevin Schott and Robert Lee and told them that they had to stay until tomorrow at noon. Their flight is scheduled for eight o'clock in the morning. They had a full opportunity to review the witnesses and their testimony is complete in the People's rebuttal case. If the Defense seeks to have them subpoenaed, they may do so, and I don't see any cause for them to be required to stay longer than their flight would indicate. And I'm asking leave of the court--

Well, Mr. Sims, tomorrow morning at 8:30. Thank you.

I'm asking leave of the court to let the witnesses go.

Mr. Scheck.

Thank you.

All right. We will be in recess, 8:30.

Janet M. Moxham, CSR #4588 Christine M. Olson, CSR #2378 official reporters

FOR THE PEOPLE: Gil Garcetti, District Attorney by: Marcia R. Clark, William W. Hodgman, Christopher A. Darden, Cheri A. Lewis, Rockne P. Harmon, George W. Clarke, Scott M. Gordon Lydia C. Bodin, Hank M. Goldberg, Alan Yochelson and Darrell S. Mavis, Brian R. Kelberg, and Kenneth E. Lynch, Deputies 18-000 Criminal Courts Building 210 West Temple Street Los Angeles, California 90012

FOR THE DEFENDANT: Robert L. Shapiro, Esquire Sara L. Caplan, Esquire 2121 Avenue of the Stars 19th floor Los Angeles, California 90067 Johnnie L. Cochran, Jr., Esquire by: Carl E. Douglas, Esquire Shawn Snider Chapman, Esquire 4929 Wilshire Boulevard Suite 1010 Los Angeles, California 90010 Gerald F. Uelmen, Esquire Robert Kardashian, Esquire Alan Dershowitz, Esquire F. Lee Bailey, Esquire Barry Scheck, Esquire Peter Neufeld, Esquire Robert D. Blasier, Esquire William C. Thompson, Esquire

ALSO PRESENT: Kelli Sager, Esquire Douglas E. Mirell, Esquire, mark D. Rosenbaum, Esquire Matthew Schwartz, Esquire Ron Regwan, Esquire James K. Hahn, city attorney Mary Thronton House, assistant city attorney

ALSO PRESENT: William J. Hadden, Esquire S. David Hotchkiss, assistant city attorney

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I N D E X

Index for volume 220 pages 44836 - 44946

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Day date session page vol.

Monday September 11, 1995 A.M. 44836 220

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PROCEEDINGS

Motion re disclosure of Detective Purdy's personnel files 44836 220

Motion re scope of rebuttal 44851 220

Motion re striking of Detective Fuhrman's testimony 44906 220

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LEGEND: Ms. Clark-mc Mr. Hodgman-h Mr. Darden d Mr. Kahn-k Mr. Goldberg-gb Mr. Gordon-g Mr. Shapiro-s Mr. Cochran-c Mr. Douglas-CD Mr. Bailey-b Mr. Uelmen-u Mr. Scheck-bs Mr. Neufeld-n

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CHRONOLOGICAL INDEX OF WITNESSES

DEFENSE witnesses direct cross redirect recross vol.

Janet M. Moxham, CSR #4588 Christine M. Olson, CSR #2378 official reporters

FOR THE PEOPLE: Gil Garcetti, District Attorney by: Marcia R. Clark, William W. Hodgman, Christopher A. Darden, Cheri A. Lewis, Rockne P. Harmon, George W. Clarke, Scott M. Gordon Lydia C. Bodin, Hank M. Goldberg, Alan Yochelson and Darrell S. Mavis, Brian R. Kelberg, and Kenneth E. Lynch, Deputies 18-000 Criminal Courts Building 210 West Temple Street Los Angeles, California 90012

FOR THE DEFENDANT: Robert L. Shapiro, Esquire Sara L. Caplan, Esquire 2121 Avenue of the Stars 19th floor Los Angeles, California 90067 Johnnie L. Cochran, Jr., Esquire by: Carl E. Douglas, Esquire Shawn Snider Chapman, Esquire 4929 Wilshire Boulevard Suite 1010 Los Angeles, California 90010 Gerald F. Uelmen, Esquire Robert Kardashian, Esquire Alan Dershowitz, Esquire F. Lee Bailey, Esquire Barry Scheck, Esquire Peter Neufeld, Esquire Robert D. Blasier, Esquire William C. Thompson, Esquire

ALSO PRESENT: Kelli Sager, Esquire Douglas E. Mirell, Esquire, mark D. Rosenbaum, Esquire Matthew Schwartz, Esquire Ron Regwan, Esquire James K. Hahn, city attorney Mary Thronton House, assistant city attorney

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I N D E X

Index for volume 220A pages 44947 - 45189

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Day date session page vol.

Monday September 11, 1995 P.M. 44947

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PROCEEDINGS

Rebuttal 44973 220

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LEGEND: Ms. Clark-mc Mr. Hodgman-h Mr. Darden d Mr. Kahn-k Mr. Goldberg-gb Mr. Gordon-g Mr. Shapiro-s Mr. Cochran-c Mr. Douglas-CD Mr. Bailey-b Mr. Uelmen-u Mr. Scheck-bs Mr. Neufeld-n

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CHRONOLOGICAL INDEX OF WITNESSES

DEFENSE witnesses direct cross redirect recross vol.

Krueger, Mark 44976MC 44984BB 44989MC 44992BB 220A

Renken, Bill 44996MC 220A (Resumed) 45020MC 450Q24

Renken, Bill 45013MC 45014BB 220A (402)

Schott, Kevin J. 45037MC 45044BB 45050MC 220A

West, Stewart 45066MC 45071BB 220A

Romano, Michael 45076MC 45080BB 45082MC 45083BB 220A

Guidera, Debra 45085MC 45095BB 220A

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DEFENSE (402) witnesses direct cross redirect recross vol.

Sims, Gary 45143RH 45178BS 220A (402)

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ALPHABETICAL INDEX OF WITNESSES

DEFENSE witnesses direct cross redirect recross vol.

Guidera, Debra 45085MC 45095BB 220A

Krueger, Mark 44976MC 44984BB 44989MC 44992BB 220A

Renken, Bill 44996MC 220A (Resumed) 45020MC 450Q24

Renken, Bill 45013MC 45014BB 220A (402)

Romano, 45076MC 45080BB 45082MC 45083BB 220A Michael

Schott, Kevin J. 45037MC 45044BB 45050MC 220A

Sims, Gary 45143RH 45178BS 220A (402)

West, Stewart 45066MC 45071BB 220A

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EXHIBITS

PEOPLE'S for in exhibit identification evidence page vol. Page vol.

605 - Photograph 44977 220A of the Defendant with a glove on his right hand

605-A - Photograph 44979 220A (Enlarged) of the Defendant with a glove on his right hand

605-B - Photograph 44979 220A close-up of the Defendant with a glove on his right hand

605-C - Photograph 44989 220A of the Defendant with a glove on his right hand and a red circle (Computer printout)

606 - Photograph 44997 220A (Enlarged) of the Defendant gloves on his hands and two other individuals

606-A - Photograph 44999 220A (8-by-11) of the Defendant gloves on his hands and two other individuals

606-B - Photograph 45000 220A of the Defendant holding an umbrella with his gloved hands

606-C - Photograph 45000 220A (Close-up) of the Defendant holding an umbrella with his gloved hands

606-D - Photograph 45002 220A of the Defendant holding a microphone with his gloved hands conducting an interview with two individuals

606-E - Photograph 45004 220A of the Defendant holding a microphone with his gloved hands conducting an interview with two individuals

606-F - Photograph 45004 220A of the Defendant holding a microphone with his gloved hands conducting an interview with two individuals

606-G - Photograph 45004 220A of the Defendant holding a microphone with his gloved hands conducting an interview with one individual

606-H - Photograph 45004 220A of the Defendant holding a microphone with his gloved hands conducting an interview with one individual

606-I - Photograph 45004 220A of the Defendant holding a microphone with his gloved hands conducting an interview with one individual

606-J - Photograph 45004 220A of the Defendant holding a microphone with his gloved hands conducting an interview with one individual

607 - Videotape 45010 220A of the Defendant conducting an interview

608 - Photograph 45038 220A of a side view of the Defendant with a glove on his right hand

608-A - Photograph 45040 220A of a front view of the Defendant with a glove on his right hand

608-B - Photograph 45040 220A of a close-up view of the Defendant with a glove on his right hand

608-C - Photograph 45040 220A (Enlarged) of a side view of the Defendant with a glove on his right hand

609 - Brown glove 45053 220A (Right hand)

610 - Photograph 45067 220A of the Defendant holding items with gloved hands

610-A - Photograph 45068 220A (Enlarged) of the Defendant holding items with gloved hands

610-B - Photograph 45069 220A close-up of the Defendant holding items with gloved hands

611 - Photograph 45077 220A (Horizontal) of the Defendant's left gloved hand

611-A - Photograph 45077 220A (Horizontal) close-up of the Defendant's left gloved hand and the Defendant's mouth

612 - Photograph 45086 220A (Vertical) of the Defendant with gloved hands holding a microphone

612-A - Photograph 45086 220A (Enlarged) (Vertical) of the Defendant with gloved hands holding a microphone

612-B - Photograph 45086 220A close-up of the Defendant with gloved hands holding a microphone

612-C - Photograph 45097 220A close-up of the Defendant's gloved hands with a circle (Computer printout)

613 - 11-page document 45142 220A entitled "Chronology of 303, 304, 305"

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DEFENSE for in exhibit identification evidence page vol. Page vol.

1371 - Photograph 45072 220A of the right hand of the Defendant with glove (Computer printout)