BY MS. CLARK: SIR, AFTER THE -- I BELIEVE -- WAS THE BRONCO FOUND PARKED OUTSIDE THE GATE -- THE DEFENDANT'S BRONCO PARKED OUTSIDE THE GATE AT ROCKINGHAM SEIZED ON JUNE 13TH?
AND THE BLOOD AT THE BLOOD TRAIL FOUND AT 875 SOUTH BUNDY, WAS THAT COLLECTED ON JUNE 13TH ALSO?
THE BLOOD DROPS FOUND GOING ON THE WALKWAY FROM THE VICTIM'S OUT TO THE ALLEY BEHIND 875 SOUTHBOUND, WERE THOSE COLLECTED ON JUNE 13TH AND SUBMITTED FOR TESTING?
BY THAT TIME, SIR, WERE YOU AWARE OF THE RESULTS OF THE TESTING OF THE BLOOD COLLECTED AT 875 SOUTH BUNDY?
AND WERE YOU AWARE OF THE RESULTS OF SOME OF THE TESTS CONDUCTED ON THE BLOOD SEIZED FROM THE BRONCO AND SUBMITTED FOR TESTING?
AND BY THAT TIME WERE YOU ALSO AWARE OF THE RESULTS OF THE TESTING OF THE GLOVE FOUND AT ROCKINGHAM?
BY MS. CLARK: ALL RIGHT. SIR, BEFORE YOU LEFT FOR -- YOU WERE AT ROCKINGHAM INITIALLY; IS THAT CORRECT?
BY MS. CLARK: AT THE TIME THAT YOU LEFT ROCKINGHAM TO RETURN TO BUNDY, WHAT WAS YOUR STATE OF MIND CONCERNING WHAT YOU THOUGHT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN WITH A CRIMINALIST TO RESPOND TO BUNDY?
BY MS. CLARK: WELL, DID YOU CALL FOR ANOTHER CRIMINALIST TO PROCEED TO THE BUNDY LOCATION WHEN YOU LEFT FOR ROCKINGHAM?
THE CRIMINALIST WAS TO PROCEED TO ROCKINGHAM AND DO A QUICK PRESUMPTIVE TEST ON THE BLOOD ON THE DOOR OF THE BRONCO AND THEN PROCEED DIRECTLY TO BUNDY, SO THERE WAS NO NEED TO.
BY MS. CLARK: DID YOU EVER WASH DOWN THAT FRONT WALKWAY THAT LEADS FROM THE SIDEWALK UP TO THE STEPS AT 875 SOUTH BUNDY?
BY MS. CLARK: TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE WAS THE REAR AREA AND THE REAR GATE AREA IN THE DRIVEWAY OF 875 SOUTH BUNDY EVER WASHED DOWN?
NOW, AFTER THE INVESTIGATION OF THE CRIME SCENE AT 875 SOUTH BUNDY WAS COMPLETED ON JUNE THE 13TH, WHAT WAS THE -- HOW WAS THE LOCATION MAINTAINED WITH RESPECT TO THE GATES?
YOU INDICATED ON CROSS-EXAMINATION THAT THERE WERE REPORTS OF PUBLIC PEOPLE AT BUNDY. DO YOU RECALL THAT?
DO YOU HAVE ANY -- ARE YOU IN POSSESSION OF ANY REPORTS THAT INDICATE THAT THERE WERE NON-RESIDENTS LURKING AROUND THE REAR GATE OF 875 SOUTH BUNDY?
BY MS. CLARK: ARE YOU AWARE OF ANY REPORTED INCIDENTS CONCERNING NON-PUBLIC -- EXCUSE ME -- NON-RESIDENTS AROUND THE REAR GATE AREA OF 875 SOUTH BUNDY?
BY MS. CLARK: WAS THERE -- THE FRONT AND THE REAR GATE AT 875 SOUTH BUNDY THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, DO THOSE GIVE ACCESS TO THE OTHER SIDE, TO ANOTHER DUPLEX IN ANY WAY?
BY MS. CLARK: DO THOSE GATES GO SOLELY TO NICOLE'S CONDOMINIUM OR ALSO ALLOW ACCESS TO OTHER NEIGHBORS?
THERE WERE RETURN VISITS TO THE CRIME SCENE TO CHECK ON VARIOUS THINGS. I HAVE NEVER BEEN INVOLVED IN A CRIME SCENE INVESTIGATION THAT I DIDN'T RETURN.
NO. ON THE CONTRARY, IT IS VERY USUAL AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE DONE AT EVERY CRIME SCENE.
BECAUSE INITIALLY THERE MAY BE THINGS THAT YOU'VE MISSED. YOU MAY WANT TO RETURN AT A DIFFERENT TIME OF DAY. YOU MAY WANT TO RECHECK WHAT YOU'VE ALREADY DONE. YOU MAY WANT TO SEARCH FOR ADDITIONAL EVIDENCE. THERE ARE ALL SORTS OF THINGS THAT COULD HAPPEN OVER A PERIOD OF TIME. YOU MAY NOT CATCH EVERYTHING THE FIRST TIME BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT GOING ON.
KEY QUOTESO BETWEEN JUNE THE 13TH AND JULY THE 3RD, WHERE DID YOU GO? WHERE ABOUT THAT LOCATION OF 875 SOUTH BUNDY DID YOU GO?
OBJECT TO THE FORM OF THAT QUESTION. BETWEEN? THAT IS VAGUE AS TO WHAT DATE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.
DO YOU RECALL HOW MANY TIMES YOU WENT BACK TO THE LOCATION BETWEEN JUNE 13TH AND JULY THE 3RD?
OKAY. ON ANY OF -- ON EACH OF THOSE OCCASIONS, THOSE TWO OR THREE TIMES, SIR, DO YOU RECALL WHERE YOU WENT?
TO THE FRONT OF THE LOCATION, TO THE AREA OF THE VICINITY WHERE THE BODIES WERE LOCATED, AND TO THE INTERIOR OF THE HOUSE, TO EXAMINE THE INTERIOR.
OKAY. AND ON JULY THE 3RD -- ON THE FIRST TIME YOU RETURNED TO THE REAR GATE AREA AFTER JUNE THE 13TH, WHICH WAS, AS YOU HAVE INDICATED, JULY THE 3RD, WHAT DID YOU SEE?
I OBSERVED A SMEAR OF BLOOD -- THE FIRST THING I OBSERVED IS A SMEAR OF BLOOD ON THE UPPER RUNG OF THE REAR GATE THAT I HAD OBSERVED ON JUNE 13TH. ADDITIONALLY, THERE APPEARED TO BE THE SAME TWO DROPLETS OF BLOOD ON THE LOWER RUNG OF THAT GATE.
KEY QUOTEIT APPEARED TO BE THE SAME TWO DROPLETS THAT I HAD OBSERVED EARLIER ON JUNE 13TH ON THE INNER LOWER RUNG OF THAT REAR GATE.
NOW, I THINK YOU INDICATED ALSO THAT ON AUGUST THE 27TH YOU TOOK THE DEFENSE TEAM, THE DEFENDANT -- EXCUSE ME -- THE DEFENSE ATTORNEY -- DEFENSE ATTORNEYS AND THEIR INVESTIGATORS ON A WALK THROUGH 875 SOUTH BUNDY. DO YOU RECALL THAT?
AND I THINK YOU INDICATED ON CROSS-EXAMINATION THAT THEIR -- THAT THEIR INVESTIGATION -- ONE OF THEIR INVESTIGATORS POINTED OUT CHANGE INSIDE THE GARAGE OF THE LOCATION OF 875 SOUTH BUNDY?
THOSE PENNIES WERE ISOLATED FROM THE CRIME SCENE. THE GARAGE DOOR WAS SECURED AT THE TIME THIS OCCURRED. THERE WAS NO BLOOD IN THE GARAGE AREA. THERE WAS NOTHING TO INDICATE THAT ANY SUSPECT HAD EVER VISITED THAT AREA.
KEY QUOTEYOUR HONOR, I OBJECT TO THE FORM OF THAT QUESTION. HE WASN'T THERE. MAY WE BE HEARD?
YOUR HONOR, I OBJECT TO THAT. HOW WOULD HE KNOW THAT? I OBJECT TO THE FORM OF THAT.
NOW, CONVERSELY, YOU INDICATED TO THE JURY THAT YOU -- EARLIER, I BELIEVE, THAT YOU FOUND A DIME AND THE PENNY ON THE REAR DRIVEWAY THAT YOU SAW JUNE 13TH TO BE IMPORTANT?
THE DIME AND THE PENNY WERE IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE BLOOD DROPLET IN THE REAR ALLEY. IT APPEARED TO DROP TO ME FROM A STATIONARY SOURCE INDICATING THAT SOURCE MAY HAVE BEEN STANDING STILL REACHING IN THEIR POCKET PERHAPS FOR KEYS AND INADVERTENTLY DROPPING THE COINS GOING FOR THE KEYS. THE BLOOD DROPLET HAD NO TAILING AND IT APPEARED TO COME FROM A STATIONARY SOURCE.
KEY QUOTEALL RIGHT. MISS CLARK, WE NEED TO TAKE OUR MORNING BREAK AT THIS POINT. ALL RIGHT. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A 15-RECESS AT THIS TIME. PLEASE REMEMBER MY ADMONITION TO YOU. DON'T DISCUSS THE CASE AMONG YOURSELVES, DON'T FORM ANY OPINIONS ABOUT THE CASE, DON'T LET ANYBODY COMMUNICATE WITH YOU WITH REGARD TO THE CASE, DO NOT CONDUCT ANY DELIBERATIONS UNTIL THE MATTER HAS BEEN SUBMITTED TO YOU. STAND IN RECESS FOR FIFTEEN.
BACK ON THE RECORD IN THE SIMPSON MATTER. ALL PARTIES ARE PRESENT. DEPUTY MAGNERA, LET'S HAVE THE JURORS, PLEASE.
BECAUSE INITIALLY THERE MAY BE THINGS THAT YOU'VE MISSED. YOU MAY WANT TO RETURN AT A DIFFERENT TIME OF DAY. YOU MAY WANT TO RECHECK WHAT YOU'VE ALREADY DONE. YOU MAY WANT TO SEARCH FOR ADDITIONAL EVIDENCE. THERE ARE ALL SORTS OF THINGS THAT COULD HAPPEN OVER A PERIOD OF TIME. YOU MAY NOT CATCH EVERYTHING THE FIRST TIME BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT GOING ON.
THE DIME AND THE PENNY WERE IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE BLOOD DROPLET IN THE REAR ALLEY. IT APPEARED TO DROP TO ME FROM A STATIONARY SOURCE INDICATING THAT SOURCE MAY HAVE BEEN STANDING STILL REACHING IN THEIR POCKET PERHAPS FOR KEYS AND INADVERTENTLY DROPPING THE COINS GOING FOR THE KEYS.
THOSE PENNIES WERE ISOLATED FROM THE CRIME SCENE. THE GARAGE DOOR WAS SECURED AT THE TIME THIS OCCURRED. THERE WAS NO BLOOD IN THE GARAGE AREA. THERE WAS NOTHING TO INDICATE THAT ANY SUSPECT HAD EVER VISITED THAT AREA.
I OBSERVED A SMEAR OF BLOOD -- THE FIRST THING I OBSERVED IS A SMEAR OF BLOOD ON THE UPPER RUNG OF THE REAR GATE THAT I HAD OBSERVED ON JUNE 13TH. ADDITIONALLY, THERE APPEARED TO BE THE SAME TWO DROPLETS OF BLOOD ON THE LOWER RUNG OF THAT GATE.