A brief sidebar about courtroom logistics: Marcia Clark objected to Johnnie Cochran standing close to her during questioning, and Ito explained that Cochran is entitled to see the chart being used with the witness. The parties debated how to position the chart so both Cochran and the jury could see it, with no satisfactory solution reached before the judge made an off-the-record comment.
# 1 (THE FOLLOWING PROCEEDINGS WERE HELD AT THE BENCH:) # 2 THE COURT: WE ARE OVER AT SIDEBAR.
# 3 MS. CLARK: I WAS JUST WONDERING WHY COUNSEL FEELS THE NEED TO STAND WITHIN 10 INCHES OF ME WHILE I'M DOING THIS QUESTIONING.
# 4 THE COURT: BECAUSE HE NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO SEE THE CHART.
# 5 MR. COCHRAN: I CAN'T SEE THE CHART.
# 6 MS. CLARK: HOW ABOUT IF I TURN IT, HAVE IT --
# 7 MR. COCHRAN: I STILL CAN'T SEE IT OVER THERE.
# 8 MS. CLARK: IT'S A VERY SIMPLE CHART, YOUR HONOR, AND I KNOW THAT COUNSEL HAS SEEN QUITE A LOT OF IT IN GREAT DETAIL.
KEY QUOTE # 9 THE COURT: NO. BUT HE NEEDS TO SEE WHAT THE WITNESS IS POINTING TO.
# 10 MS. CLARK: HE'S NOT POINTING TO ANYTHING.
# 11 THE COURT: WELL, WE DON'T --
# 12 MR. COCHRAN: HOW DO I KNOW THAT?
# 13 THE COURT: SEE, MARCIA, IT'S A BAD ANGLE. IT'S JUST A BAD ANGLE.
# 14 MS. CLARK: IF I TURNED IT --
# 15 MR. COCHRAN: I HAVEN'T SEEN HALF OF THESE THINGS. I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT HALF THE TIME. OF COURSE, I'M NOT THE ONE THAT HAS TO BE ABLE TO SEE WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.
KEY QUOTE # 16 MS. CLARK: I AGREE IF I TILT IT SO THAT COUNSEL CAN SEE IT FROM COUNSEL TABLE, PERHAPS HE CAN GET --
# 17 THE COURT: THEN THE JURY IS NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO SEE IT.
# 18 MS. CLARK: ACTUALLY --
# 19 MR. COCHRAN: I'M NOT BOTHERING HER. I'M STANDING BEHIND HER.
# 20 THE COURT: I KNOW. HE'S NOT SAYING ANYTHING. HE'S NOT PUTTING RABBIT EARS BEHIND YOUR HEAD OR ANYTHING.
# 21 MS. CLARK: I NEVER KNOW WHEN HE WILL, YOUR HONOR.
KEY QUOTE # 22 MR. COCHRAN: I DIDN'T DO THAT. I'M STANDING THERE NOT TALKING.
# 23 THE COURT: HE'S ENTITLED TO SEE WHAT IT IS YOU ARE DOING.
# 25 THE COURT: LET ME MAKE ONE OTHER COMMENT TO YOU OFF THE RECORD.
# 26 (A CONFERENCE WAS HELD AT THE BENCH, NOT REPORTED.)