Direct examination of Robert Riske (part 4)

📄 Direct examination of Robert Riske (part 4) — Thursday, February 9, 1995

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Witness: Off. Robert Riske
Examiner: Marcia Clark
Called by: Prosecution • Date: Thursday, February 9, 1995 • Utterances: 212

Officer Riske continues his direct examination, walking Marcia Clark through how he escorted Detectives Fuhrman and Phillips on a tour of the crime scene roughly two hours after his initial arrival. He describes showing them the two victims, the bloody shoeprints, the envelope, cap, and glove on the walkway, blood on the rear gate, and the interior of the Rockingham house including the melted ice cream. Multiple photographs of the rear gate blood and a body-position diagram are introduced into evidence.

# 1 (THE FOLLOWING PROCEEDINGS WERE HELD IN OPEN COURT:)

# 2 THE COURT:

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, COUNSEL. MISS CLARK, YOU MAY CONTINUE.

# 3 MS. CLARK:

THANK YOU, YOUR HONOR.

# 4 Q:

BY MS. CLARK: OKAY. WITH REFERENCE TO THOSE FOOTPRINTS, THE BLOODY SHOEPRINTS THAT YOU SAW LEADING AWAY FROM THE BODY OF THE VICTIMS TOWARDS THE REAR GATE, WHEN YOU FIRST WALKED DOWN THAT WALKWAY FROM THE -- AFTER YOU EXITED THE FRONT DOOR OF THE CONDOMINIUM GOING TOWARDS THE REAR GATE, DID YOU HAPPEN TO NOTICE WHETHER THE SHOEPRINTS CONTINUED ALL THE WAY TO THE REAR GATE OR NOT?

# 5 A:

NO, THEY DIDN'T. THEY FADED OUT.

# 6 Q:

THEY FADED OUT?

# 7 A:

YES.

# 8 Q:

AT WHAT POINT?

# 9 A:

I BELIEVE IT WAS AFTER THE SECOND LANDING GOING DOWN THE STAIRS, FROM THE SECOND LANDING THEY FADED.

# 10 Q:

WAS THAT ABOUT HALFWAY?

# 11 A:

YES.

# 12 Q:

HALFWAY DOWN BEFORE YOU GOT TO THE REAR GATE?

# 13 A:

YES.

# 14 Q:

SO WHEN YOU TOOK SERGEANT ROSSI IN THROUGH THE REAR GATE, YOU TOOK HIM UP AS FAR AS THE LAST BLOODY SHOEPRINT?

# 15 MR. COCHRAN:

IT'S BEEN ASKED AND ANSWERED.

# 16 THE COURT:

OVERRULED.

# 17 OFF. ROBERT RISKE:

THAT'S CORRECT.

# 18 Q:

BY MS. CLARK: AND THEN WHAT HAPPENED?

# 19 A:

WE JUST -- WE TURNED AROUND, WENT BACK OUT AND WE RETURNED TO THE FRONT ON BUNDY.

# 20 Q:

NOW, AGAIN, WHEN YOU TURNED AROUND, WENT BACK OUT, WERE YOU USING YOUR FLASHLIGHT TO SEE WHAT WAS ON THE WALKWAY?

# 21 A:

THAT'S CORRECT.

# 22 Q:

DID YOU AVOID THE BLOOD DROPS?

# 23 A:

YES.

# 24 Q:

AT THAT POINT THAT YOU WERE WALKING BACK WITH HIM, THERE WERE NO MORE BLOODY SHOEPRINTS?

# 25 A:

NO, THERE WEREN'T.

# 26 Q:

AND DID THOSE SHOEPRINTS APPEAR TO GET LIGHTER AND LIGHTER AS YOU WENT FARTHER DOWN THE WALKWAY TOWARD THE REAR GATE?

# 27 A:

FROM THE FRONT?

# 28 Q:

YES.

# 29 A:

YES.

# 30 MR. COCHRAN:

LEADING AND SUGGESTIVE, YOUR HONOR.

# 31 THE COURT:

OVERRULED. BUT HE'S ALREADY TESTIFIED THAT IT FADED OUT.

# 32 Q:

BY MS. CLARK: ALL RIGHT. AFTER YOU EXITED THE REAR GATE WITH SERGEANT ROSSI, WHAT HAPPENED NEXT?

# 33 A:

WE RETURNED TO THE FRONT ON BUNDY.

# 34 Q:

AND WHERE DID YOU STAY?

# 35 A:

IN THE STREET.

# 36 Q:

NOT ON THE SIDEWALK?

# 37 A:

NO.

# 38 Q:

AND WHAT HAPPENED NEXT?

# 39 A:

DETECTIVE PHILLIPS AND FUHRMAN ARRIVED.

# 40 Q:

DETECTIVE RON PHILLIPS AND DETECTIVE MARK FUHRMAN THAT ARRIVED?

# 41 A:

THAT'S CORRECT.

# 42 Q:

AND ABOUT WHAT TIME WAS IT WHEN THEY ARRIVED?

# 43 A:

I REALLY DON'T KNOW. I WOULD ONLY BE GUESSING. I DON'T --

# 44 Q:

WAS IT LIKE A COUPLE HOURS AFTER YOU FIRST GOT THERE?

# 45 A:

YES.

# 46 Q:

AND WHERE DID THEY PULL UP TO? WHERE DID YOU FIRST SEE THEM?

# 47 A:

THEY PARKED ON -- BE THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF BUNDY AND DOROTHY AND THEY PARKED ON DOROTHY.

# 48 Q:

NOW, AT THIS POINT, WHO WAS ALREADY AT THE LOCATION, WHICH PEOPLE THAT YOU SAW?

# 49 A:

MYSELF AND MY PARTNER.

# 50 Q:

OFFICER TERRAZAS?

# 51 A:

THAT'S CORRECT. OFFICER MC GOWAN, OFFICER WALLY, BUT THEY HAD GONE UP TO GORHAM AND DOROTHY AND BLOCKED TRAFFIC. SERGEANT COON WAS THERE, SERGEANT ROSSI, OFFICER CHAVEZ AND CUMMINGS, OFFICER GLORIOSO, ZEIGLER AND OFFICER ASTON. I DON'T KNOW WHO HIS PARTNER WAS.

# 52 Q:

GONZALEZ?

# 53 A:

YES. OFFICER GONZALEZ.

# 54 Q:

AND WERE THESE PEOPLE ALL GUARDING THE PERIMETER?

# 55 MR. COCHRAN:

OBJECTION, YOUR HONOR. THAT'S LEADING AND SUGGESTIVE.

# 56 THE COURT:

SUSTAINED. REPHRASE THE QUESTION.

# 57 Q:

BY MS. CLARK: WHAT WERE THESE PEOPLE DOING?

# 58 A:

OFFICER CUMMINGS WAS MAINTAINING CONTROL OF THE CRIME SCENE LOG, WHO ARRIVED AND WHO LEFT. OFFICER GONZALEZ AND ASTON WERE KNOCKING ON THE NEIGHBORS' DOORS, SEE IF THEY HEARD OR SAW ANYTHING. OFFICER TERRAZAS WAS IN THE BACK GUARDING THE BACK.

# 59 Q:

GUARDING THE BACK?

# 60 A:

THAT'S CORRECT. OFFICER SANCHEZ WAS GUARDING THE FRONT WITH SERGEANT COON AND I BELIEVE GLORIOSO AND ZEIGLER WERE ALSO KNOCKING ON DOORS.

# 61 Q:

AND AT THAT POINT -- AND SERGEANT ROSSI WAS THERE AS WELL?

# 62 A:

SERGEANT ROSSI WITH ME, YES.

# 63 Q:

AND AFTER ALL THOSE PEOPLE WERE THERE ABOUT TWO HOURS AFTER YOU GOT TO THE SCENE, DETECTIVES RON PHILLIPS AND MARK FUHRMAN ARRIVED?

# 64 A:

THAT'S CORRECT.

# 65 Q:

WHAT HAPPENED WHEN THEY ARRIVED?

# 66 A:

THEY MET WITH SERGEANT ROSSI, SERGEANT COON AND MYSELF. WE WENT OVER WHAT WE HAD. DETECTIVE FUHRMAN, PHILLIPS, SERGEANT COON AND I APPROACHED THE FRONT ON THE GRASS. I SHOWED THEM THE CRIME SCENE WE HAD IN THE FRONT. UMM, DETECTIVE --

# 67 Q:

EXCUSE ME. LET ME STOP YOU THERE, SIR. WHEN YOU SAY YOU APPROACHED THE CRIME SCENE ON THE GRASS, WAS THAT THE SAME ROUTE THAT YOU'VE DESCRIBED FOR US BEFORE TO THE LEFT OF THE WALKWAY AS YOU FACE IT?

# 68 A:

THAT'S CORRECT. IT WAS TO THE LEFT OF THE PLANTS ON THE WALKWAY.

# 69 MS. CLARK:

CAN WE CUT THE FEED, YOUR HONOR?

# 70 Q:

BY MS. CLARK: ALL RIGHT. NOW, SHOWN IN -- THIS IS PEOPLE'S 43, 43-B. ONCE AGAIN, IS THAT TO THE LEFT OF THE WALKWAY SHOWN THERE?

# 71 A:

THAT'S CORRECT.

# 72 Q:

AND YOU TOOK THAT SAME PATH AS YOU DID BEFORE?

# 73 A:

NO. THERE'S GRASS TO THE LEFT OF THIS AND WE WALKED IN THE GRASS (INDICATING).

# 74 Q:

YOU'RE GESTURING OVER TO THE LEFT-HAND SIDE OF THE PHOTOGRAPH?

# 75 A:

THAT'S CORRECT.

# 76 MR. FAIRTLOUGH:

YOUR HONOR, WE MIGHT NEED TO KILL THE FEED FOR THIS.

# 77 MS. CLARK:

YES. I ALREADY TOLD HIM.

# 78 Q:

BY MS. CLARK: ALL RIGHT. NOW, DID YOU TAKE THEM ALL THE WAY UP TO THE CALL BOX THAT YOU DESCRIBED EARLIER?

# 79 A:

NO. WE STAYED IN THE GRASS TO THE LEFT OF THE FOLIAGE.

# 80 Q:

AND AT THIS POINT, WHO WAS STANDING ON THE GRASS WITH YOU?

# 81 A:

IT'S DETECTIVE FUHRMAN, DETECTIVE PHILLIPS, I BELIEVE SERGEANT COON AND MYSELF.

# 82 Q:

AND DID YOU HAVE YOUR FLASHLIGHT?

# 83 A:

YES.

# 84 Q:

SO IT WAS ABOUT 2:30 IN THE MORNING AT THIS POINT?

# 85 A:

I BELIEVE. I'M NOT SURE WHAT TIME IT WAS.

# 86 Q:

AND WHAT DID YOU SHOW THEM?

# 87 A:

I SHOWED THEM THE TWO BODIES, THE EVIDENCE I HAD SEEN, THE ENVELOPE, THE HAT, THE GLOVE.

KEY QUOTE

# 88 Q:

AND THEY ALL OBSERVED IT FROM THAT POSITION ON THE GRASS?

# 89 A:

THAT'S CORRECT.

# 90 Q:

WHAT DID YOU DO NEXT?

# 91 A:

WE THEN -- I TOOK THEM AROUND TO THE NEIGHBOR'S YARD, I SHOWED THEM WHERE THE PAGER WAS LAYING, THE BODY OF MR. GOLDMAN.

# 92 Q:

SO YOU TOOK THEM AROUND TO THE SIDE THAT'S SHOWN IN PEOPLE'S -- EXCUSE ME -- 43-A OUTSIDE THIS GATED AREA?

# 93 A:

THAT'S CORRECT.

# 94 Q:

AND YOU LET THEM SEE --

# 95 MR. COCHRAN:

ASKED AND ANSWERED, REPEATING WHAT HE SAID.

# 96 Q:

BY MS. CLARK: THAT'S 47 --

# 97 MR. COCHRAN:

I MOVE TO STRIKE THAT, EVERYTHING SHE SAID.

# 98 Q:

BY MS. CLARK: PEOPLE'S 47 --

# 99 THE COURT:

OVERRULED.

# 100 Q:

BY MS. CLARK: PEOPLE'S 47-A AROUND THE OUTSIDE OF THAT GATE?

# 101 A:

THAT'S CORRECT.

# 102 Q:

WHAT DID YOU DO AFTER THAT?

# 103 A:

THEN THE TWO DETECTIVES, I BELIEVE BOTH SERGEANTS AND MYSELF WALKED AROUND DOWN BUNDY TO DOROTHY, DOROTHY TO THE REAR ALLEY AND WENT TO THE REAR OF THE RESIDENCE.

# 104 Q:

OKAY. THE SAME PATH THAT YOU TOOK BEFORE?

# 105 A:

THAT'S CORRECT.

# 106 MS. CLARK:

YOUR HONOR, MAY I ASK THAT THE PHOTOGRAPHS WE'RE GOING TO PUT UP NOW ON THE ELMO BE MARKED PEOPLE'S 52?

# 107 THE COURT:

ALL RIGHT. 52.

# 108 (PEO'S 52 FOR ID = PHOTOGRAPH)

# 109 Q:

BY MS. CLARK: SHOWING YOU PEOPLE'S 52, SIR, DO YOU RECOGNIZE WHAT'S BEING SHOWN IN THAT PHOTOGRAPH?

# 110 A:

YES, I DO.

# 111 Q:

WHAT'S THAT?

# 112 A:

THAT'S THE REAR OF 875 AND THE JEEP THAT WAS IN THE DRIVEWAY.

# 113 Q:

NOW, WHEN YOU FIRST GOT TO THE LOCATION SHORTLY AFTER MIDNIGHT, THE FIRST TIME YOU WENT BACK TO THE REAR AREA THAT'S SHOWN IN PEOPLE'S 52, WAS THE JEEP IN THAT POSITION?

# 114 A:

YES.

# 115 Q:

OUTSIDE THE GARAGE?

# 116 A:

YES.

# 117 Q:

BUT THE GARAGE DOOR WAS CLOSED?

# 118 A:

THAT'S CORRECT.

# 119 Q:

SO YOU CAME AROUND THE CORNER OF DOROTHY AND BUNDY AND UP THE ALLEY --

# 120 A:

THAT'S RIGHT.

# 121 Q:

-- WITH DETECTIVES PHILLIPS, FUHRMAN AND SERGEANT COON?

# 122 A:

AND SERGEANT ROSSI.

# 123 Q:

AND SERGEANT ROSSI. SO IT WAS FIVE OF YOU.

# 124 A:

RIGHT.

# 125 Q:

ALL RIGHT. AND WHERE DID YOU GO?

# 126 A:

WE WENT TO THE DRIVEWAY, SHOWED THEM THE DOOR THAT WAS AJAR AND THE JEEP, THE CHANGE AND THE BLOOD ON THE DRIVEWAY. I WAS SHOWING DETECTIVE FUHRMAN THE BLOOD THAT WAS ON THE GATE.

# 127 Q:

THE REAR GATE?

# 128 A:

THAT'S CORRECT. AND SERGEANT ROSSI AND DETECTIVE PHILLIPS WALKED DOWN THE WALKWAY PROBABLY HALFWAY.

# 129 (DISCUSSION HELD OFF THE RECORD BETWEEN THE DEPUTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY AND DEFENSE COUNSEL.)

# 130 MS. CLARK:

YOUR HONOR, I HAVE HERE A SERIES OF PHOTOGRAPHS I WOULD ASK BE MARKED AS PEOPLE'S 53.

# 131 THE COURT:

ALL RIGHT. PEOPLE'S 53, CHART WITH PHOTOS.

# 132 MS. CLARK:

AND THEY WILL BE LABELED.

# 133 THE COURT:

THANK YOU. (PEO'S 53 FOR ID = CHART WITH PHOTOS)

# 134 Q:

BY MS. CLARK: CAN YOU -- LET ME LET YOU LOOK AT THAT FOR A MINUTE TO ORIENT YOURSELF.

# 135 MS. CLARK:

CAN EVERYBODY SEE THAT?

# 136 OFF. ROBERT RISKE:

OKAY.

# 137 Q:

BY MS. CLARK: YOU SEE WHAT'S -- FIRST OF ALL, IN GENERAL, WHAT LOCATION IS SHOWN ON PEOPLE'S 53?

# 138 A:

THAT'S THE REAR GATE OF 875 BUNDY.

# 139 Q:

NOW, WHAT WILL BE LABELED AS PHOTOGRAPH 53-A, IS THIS TAKEN FROM INSIDE OR OUTSIDE THE GATE?

# 140 A:

THAT'S INSIDE THE GATE.

# 141 Q:

SO THAT WOULD BE -- SO THAT'S FROM INSIDE THE GATE AND YOU ARE FACING OUT TOWARD THE ALLEY?

# 142 A:

THAT'S CORRECT.

# 143 Q:

I'LL LET YOU USE THIS. CAN YOU TELL US IF YOU SEE WHERE YOU SAW BLOOD DROPS ON THE REAR GATE ON THE NIGHT OF JUNE THE 12TH?

# 144 A:

THERE WAS BLOOD AT THE BOTTOM, THERE WAS BLOOD ON THIS LATCH, THERE WAS BLOOD AT THE TOP AND MY PARTNER DIRECTED MY ATTENTION TO BLOOD ON THE OUTSIDE ON THE GRATING.

# 145 Q:

AND DO YOU SEE THAT BLOOD DESIGNATED BY SOME KIND OF MARKER IN WHAT WILL BE LABELED AS 53-E?

# 146 A:

WHICH ONE IS THAT?

# 147 Q:

LET'S SEE. THIS ONE IS A, SECOND PHOTOGRAPH HERE SHOWING THE BLOOD DROPS YOU'VE INDICATED AT THE BOTTOM RUNG IS B, CLOSER UP IS C AND CLOSER UP IN D. IN E AND F, CAN YOU TELL US WHAT'S SHOWN THERE?

# 148 A:

THIS IS THE OUTSIDE OF THE REAR GATE AND THAT WILL BE WHERE THE BLOOD WAS.

# 149 Q:

AND A CLOSER-UP VIEW OF THAT IN F?

# 150 A:

THAT'S CORRECT.

# 151 MS. CLARK:

YOUR HONOR, IF I MAY, I'M GOING TO ASK TO SHOW THIS TO THE REST OF THE JURY.

# 152 THE COURT:

YES.

# 153 OFF. ROBERT RISKE:

WANT ME TO COME WITH --

# 154 Q:

BY MS. CLARK: YOU WANT TO GO AND POINT IT OUT AGAIN, SIR? KEEP YOUR VOICE UP.

# 155 A:

THIS WOULD BE THE INTERIOR OF THE REAR GATE. THIS WOULD BE BLOOD ON THE BOTTOM RUNG ON THE INSIDE OF THE GATE. THIS IS A CLOSER-UP PICTURE OF BLOOD ON THE BOTTOM. THIS IS EVEN CLOSER. THIS IS THE OUTSIDE OF THE REAR GATE. THE BLOOD WOULD BE ON THE GRATING, AND THIS IS A CLOSER-UP PICTURE OF THE BLOOD ON THE GRATING.

# 156 Q:

THANK YOU, SIR. ALL RIGHT. SO AFTER YOU ALL WENT INSIDE THE REAR GATE, WHAT HAPPENED NEXT?

# 157 A:

WELL, DETECTIVE FUHRMAN AND I WENT TO THE REAR GATE. WE DIDN'T GO INSIDE, AND SERGEANT ROSSI AND DETECTIVE PHILLIPS WENT ABOUT HALFWAY DOWN THE WALK.

# 158 Q:

SO YOU STAYED OUTSIDE THE REAR GATE WITH DETECTIVE FUHRMAN?

# 159 A:

THAT'S CORRECT.

# 160 Q:

AND WHAT DID YOU DO THERE?

# 161 A:

I SHOWED HIM THE BLOOD ON THE REAR GATE AND, LIKE I SAID, THE BLOOD IN THE DRIVEWAY.

# 162 Q:

WHAT HAPPENED AFTER THAT?

# 163 A:

DETECTIVE PHILLIPS AND SERGEANT ROSSI CAME OUT OF THE WALKWAY THROUGH THE REAR GATE AND DETECTIVE FUHRMAN, PHILLIPS AND I ENTERED THE HOUSE THROUGH THE GARAGE.

# 164 Q:

ALL RIGHT. BY THAT TIME, THE GARAGE WAS ALREADY OPENED?

# 165 A:

THAT'S CORRECT.

# 166 Q:

OKAY. AND SO HOW MANY OF YOU WALKED IN THROUGH THE GARAGE?

# 167 A:

THREE OF US.

# 168 Q:

AND THAT WAS YOU AND DETECTIVE PHILLIPS --

# 169 A:

FUHRMAN.

# 170 Q:

-- AND DETECTIVE FUHRMAN?

# 171 A:

PHILLIPS.

# 172 Q:

WHAT DID YOU DO INSIDE THE HOUSE?

# 173 A:

AS SOON AS WE ENTERED THE HOUSE FROM THE GARAGE, I SHOWED THEM THE ICE CREAM AND THE SPOON WAS ON THE GROUND. WE DID A QUICK WALK THROUGH THE HOUSE AND THEN WE WENT OUT TO THE FRONT LANDING.

KEY QUOTE

# 174 Q:

HAD YOU NOTICED WHEN YOU FIRST WERE INSIDE THE HOUSE THAT THE SPOON THAT WAS IN THAT ICE CREAM CUP WAS ON THE GROUND?

# 175 A:

YES.

# 176 Q:

WHAT DID IT LOOK LIKE TO YOU?

# 177 A:

IT LOOKED LIKE THE ICE CREAM HAD MELTED AND THE SPOON HAD FELL ON THE FLOOR. IT WAS DIRECTLY UNDERNEATH THE ICE CREAM.

# 178 Q:

UH-HUH. WHERE DID YOU WALK THEM THROUGH INSIDE THE HOUSE?

# 179 A:

WE LOOKED AT THE MAIN LEVEL AND WENT UP, I SHOWED THEM THE KIDS'S BEDROOMS AND THE MASTER BEDROOM. WE WENT OUT ON THE, LIKE I SAID, THE WORKOUT AREA, LOOKED DOWN INTO THE LIVING AREA. THEN WE CAME BACK DOWN AND WENT OUT TO THE FRONT LANDING.

# 180 Q:

AND WHEN YOU CAME OUT ONTO THE FRONT LANDING, WERE YOU ABLE TO SEE BOTH OF THE VICTIMS THERE?

# 181 A:

YES.

# 182 MS. CLARK:

YOUR HONOR, I HAVE HERE A BOARD THAT HAS BEEN SHOWN TO COUNSEL, ASK THIS BE MARKED AS PEOPLE'S 54?

# 183 THE COURT:

54.

# 184 (PEO'S 54 FOR ID = BOARD)

# 185 Q:

BY MS. CLARK: ARE YOU ABLE TO SEE PEOPLE'S 54, SIR?

# 186 A:

YES, MA'AM.

# 187 Q:

IF YOU CAN SEE THE DIAGRAM WITH THE OUTLINES OF THE BODIES IN YELLOW, CAN YOU TELL US IF THAT IS THE RELATIVE POSITION OF THE BODIES TO EACH OTHER AT THE CRIME SCENE AS YOU FOUND IT?

# 188 A:

YES.

# 189 Q:

NOW, IF YOU WOULD, SIR --

# 190 A:

I THINK HER HEAD WAS ACTUALLY CLOSER TO THE STAIRS THOUGH.

KEY QUOTE

# 191 Q:

CLOSER BACK TO THE STAIRS?

# 192 A:

RIGHT.

# 193 Q:

CAN YOU DESCRIBE THE --

# 194 (DISCUSSION HELD OFF THE RECORD BETWEEN THE DEPUTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY AND DEFENSE COUNSEL.)

# 195 Q:

BY MS. CLARK: CAN YOU DESCRIBE FOR US, SIR, THE AREA WHERE THE BODIES WERE FOUND IN TERMS OF SPACE, IN TERMS OF HOW LARGE THAT SPACE IS?

# 196 A:

I WOULD ESTIMATE FROM THE NORTH FENCE TO THE FOILAGE ON THE LEFT OF THE WALKWAY, PROBABLY 10 FEET AND MAYBE SIX FEET LONG.

# 197 Q:

IN OTHER WORDS, WAS THAT A FAIRLY SMALL ENCLOSED AREA?

# 198 A:

YES.

# 199 Q:

SO WHEN YOU STOOD AT THE TOP OF THE LANDING, DID YOU POINT OUT -- DID YOU USE YOUR FLASHLIGHT AT THAT POINT?

# 200 A:

YES, I DID.

# 201 Q:

AND WHAT DID YOU DO?

# 202 A:

I POINTED OUT THE EVIDENCE THAT I HAD SEEN. I SHOWED HIM THE BLOODY FOOTPRINTS AND THE WALKWAY.

# 203 Q:

OKAY.

# 204 A:

THE TWO VICTIMS.

# 205 Q:

AND DID YOU SHOW THEM, AGAIN, THE ENVELOPE, THE CAP, THE GLOVE?

# 206 A:

RIGHT.

# 207 Q:

AND YOU WERE ABLE TO SEE THAT FROM STANDING UP ON THE LANDING?

# 208 A:

YES.

# 209 Q:

AND WHAT DID YOU DO AFTER THAT?

# 210 A:

THEY LOOKED AROUND -- JUST STANDING THERE, THEY LOOKED AND THEY LOOKED AT THE STEPS LEADING TOWARDS THE REAR -- I MEAN THE BLOODY SHOEPRINTS LEADING TOWARDS THE REAR, THEN WE WENT BACK INTO THE HOUSE AND I BELIEVE SERGEANT COON GOT A HOLD OF DETECTIVE PHILLIPS AND TOLD HIM THAT LIEUTENANT SPANGLER HAD ARRIVED. DETECTIVE FUHRMAN AND I STAYED IN THE HOUSE AND DETECTIVE PHILLIPS WENT OUT TO MEET WITH THE LIEUTENANT.

# 211 MS. CLARK:

EXCUSE ME, YOUR HONOR. COULD WE APPROACH?

# 212 THE COURT:

SURE.

Temperature

procedural

Key Quotes (4)

Robert Riske

I SHOWED THEM THE TWO BODIES, THE EVIDENCE I HAD SEEN, THE ENVELOPE, THE HAT, THE GLOVE.

Establishes that Detective Fuhrman was shown the glove at Bundy before he later 'discovered' a glove at Rockingham — relevant to the defense's planted-evidence theory.

Robert Riske

AS SOON AS WE ENTERED THE HOUSE FROM THE GARAGE, I SHOWED THEM THE ICE CREAM AND THE SPOON WAS ON THE GROUND. WE DID A QUICK WALK THROUGH THE HOUSE AND THEN WE WENT OUT TO THE FRONT LANDING.

Places Fuhrman and Phillips inside the Rockingham residence very early in the investigation, relevant to chain-of-custody questions.

Robert Riske

I THINK HER HEAD WAS ACTUALLY CLOSER TO THE STAIRS THOUGH.

Riske spontaneously corrects the prosecution's own body-position diagram, demonstrating he is testifying from memory rather than following a script.

Robert Riske

I WAS SHOWING DETECTIVE FUHRMAN THE BLOOD THAT WAS ON THE GATE.

Further documents what Fuhrman was specifically shown at the rear gate, supporting the timeline of his knowledge of the crime scene evidence.

Evidence (9)

People's 43-B

Photograph showing the left side of the walkway where officers walked on the grass

discussed

People's 43-A

Photograph showing the area outside the gated enclosure where Goldman's body was visible

discussed

People's 47 / 47-A

Photograph of the exterior side of the gate near Goldman's body

discussed

People's 52

Photograph of the rear of 875 Bundy showing the Jeep in the driveway

introduced, discussed

People's 53 (53-A through 53-F)

Chart of six photographs showing blood on the rear gate — interior bottom rung, latch area, and exterior grating, with close-up progressions

introduced, discussed, shown to jury by witness

People's 54

Board with yellow outline diagram showing relative positions of the two victims' bodies

introduced, discussed — witness spontaneously corrected Nicole's head position

+ 3 more

Notable Exchanges (3)

Marcia Clark•Robert Riske

Riske interrupts Clark's diagram presentation to correct that Nicole Brown Simpson's head was actually positioned closer to the stairs than the diagram showed, volunteering a correction unprompted.

revealing

Marcia Clark•Robert Riske

Riske carefully reconstructs the precise movements of Fuhrman and Phillips through both the exterior crime scene and the interior of the Rockingham house, establishing exactly what evidence each detective was shown and when.

strategic

Marcia Clark•Mr. Fairtlough

Brief sidebar exchanges about cutting the courtroom camera feed before crime scene photographs were displayed on the ELMO projector.

procedural

Objections

4 objections (1 sustained, 3 overruled)

Proceeding 4757 • 212 utterances • Prosecution witness

Criminal Trial

Department 103