📄 Direct examination of Gary Sims (afternoon) — Thursday, November 14, 1996
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Direct examination of Gary Sims (afternoon)

Witness: Gary Sims
Examiner: Tom Lambert
Called by: Plaintiff • Date: Thursday, November 14, 1996 • Utterances: 29
Mr. Lambert concludes his direct examination of Mr. Sims by eliciting DNA results from the Rockingham glove. Sims confirmed an RFLP match to Ron Goldman on item G3 at odds of one in 1.2 billion to one in 41 billion, then walked through Exhibit 319 showing the glove's blood collection sites. Lambert's closing question — suggesting the glove stains were in the location one would touch while removing the glove — was sustained as speculation.
1 (Exhibit 320 is displayed by counsel.)
2 Q:

(BY MR. LAMBERT) Getting back a second, Mr. Sims, to the Rockingham glove board, I think I missed something there, on this item G3.

Yes, G3

You were able to obtain an RFLP result on that item, sir?

3 A:

Yes, I did an RFLP result on that -- RFLP analysis on that particular sample, and obtained an eight-probe match for Mr. Goldman.

4 Q:

Could you give us the frequency for the RFLP result for Mr. Goldman?

5 A:

Yes.

That was one in 1.2 billion to one in 41 billion.

KEY QUOTE
6 Q:

Is that a significant RFLP result?

7 A:

Yes, it is.

8 Q:

Would you describe that as a rare occurrence?

9 A:

Yes.

10 Q:

Okay.

Now, let me show you Exhibit No. 319, entitled Rockingham Glove Blood Results.

11 (The instrument herein referred to as Chart entitled Rockingham Glove Blood Results was marked for identification as Plaintiffs' Exhibit No. 319.)
12 Q:

(BY MR. LAMBERT) Would you describe what this exhibit depicts, sir?

13 A:

Yes. That exhibit depicts the -- the right-hand glove that was analyzed in our laboratory.

14 JUROR:

We can't see.

15 MR. LAMBERT:

If people can't see, let me take this one down and put this on the higher one.

16 (Counsel adjusts exhibit.)
17 JUROR:

Thanks.

18 Q:

(BY MR. LAMBERT) Okay. Please continue.

19 A:

Yes, that item depicts the right-hand glove that was analyzed in our laboratory. I took those photographs myself. And then the various notations explained where the approximate locations are for the collection sites for the various blood stains that were removed from the glove.

20 Q:

The ones that are listed on the other board sitting back in the corner or over there?

21 A:

That's correct.

22 Q:

The sites where you found the DNA types that were consistent with Mr. Simpson are on G number 10, G13 and G11?

23 A:

That's correct. That was the D1S80 results by Renee Montgomery.

24 Q:

These are all sort of towards the bottom portion of the glove?

25 A:

Yes. They tend to focus around the wrist notch area on the palm surface.

KEY QUOTE
26 Q:

The place you might touch the glove as you were taking it off, sir?

KEY QUOTE
27 MR. BLASIER:

Objection. Calls for speculation.

28 THE COURT:

Sustained.

29 MR. LAMBERT:

I have no further questions.

Temperature

procedural

Key Quotes (3)

Gary Sims
That was one in 1.2 billion to one in 41 billion.
The RFLP frequency establishing the rarity of the Goldman DNA match on the Rockingham glove — one of the most statistically powerful results in the case.
Tom Lambert
The place you might touch the glove as you were taking it off, sir?
Lambert attempted to plant the inference that Simpson's touch DNA was deposited while removing the glove — shut down by a sustained objection.
Gary Sims
Yes. They tend to focus around the wrist notch area on the palm surface.
Describes the anatomical clustering of Simpson-consistent DNA — the foundation for Lambert's (blocked) removal inference.

Evidence (3)

Plaintiffs' 320
Rockingham glove board (the full DNA results chart for the glove)
displayed; item G3 RFLP result discussed
Plaintiffs' 319
Chart entitled 'Rockingham Glove Blood Results' — photographs of the right-hand glove with annotated collection site locations
introduced and described by witness
Informal
Items G10, G13, G11 — blood stain collection sites on the glove where D1S80 results consistent with Simpson were found
discussed; located to wrist/palm area

Notable Exchanges (2)

JurorTom Lambert
A juror called out that they couldn't see Exhibit 319; Lambert immediately adjusted the display board and the juror thanked him.
routine but humanizing — brief direct juror-counsel interaction
Tom LambertRobert BlasierHiroshi Fujisaki
Lambert asked whether the wrist-area stain location was consistent with touching the glove while removing it. Blasier objected as speculation; Fujisaki sustained. Lambert immediately rested.
strategic — Lambert got the image in front of the jury before the objection landed

Light Moments (1)

Juror
A juror interrupted testimony to say they couldn't see the exhibit; after Lambert adjusted it, the juror simply said 'Thanks.'

Objections

1 objections (1 sustained, 0 overruled)
Proceeding 8253 • 29 utterances • Plaintiff witness
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