ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. PLEASE BE SEATED. LET THE RECORD REFLECT WE HAVE NOW BEEN REJOINED BY ALL THE MEMBERS OF OUR JURY PANEL. GOOD AFTERNOON, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
GOOD AFTERNOON.
TOM LANGE, THE WITNESS ON THE STAND AT THE TIME OF THE NOON RECESS, RESUMED THE STAND AND TESTIFIED FURTHER AS FOLLOWS:
DETECTIVE TOM LANGE IS STILL ON THE WITNESS STAND ON RECROSS-EXAMINATION BY MR. COCHRAN. GOOD AFTERNOON AGAIN, DETECTIVE LANGE.
WITH REGARD TO THE CLUES THAT YOU SPOKE ABOUT, I GUESS YESTERDAY AND THIS MORNING, THAT YOU HAVE INVESTIGATED, ARE THERE SOME CLUES THAT OTHER MEMBERS OF YOUR TEAM HAVE PURSUED THAT WOULD BE OF AN EXCULPATORY NATURE AS THEY RELATE TO MR. SIMPSON THAT WOULD POINT TOWARD HIS INNOCENCE?
DETECTIVE PAYNE SUPERVISES THE ASSIGNMENT OF THOSE CLUES TO A GREAT EXTENT AND HAS THOSE CLUES ON HIS COMPUTER.
AND IF I WERE TO ASK YOU TO SEARCH THROUGH YOUR COMPUTER TO GIVE US A COMPUTER RUN OF THE NUMBER OF THOSE CLUES AND WHAT THE STATUS OF THEM -- OF THOSE CLUES ARE, COULD YOU DO THAT OVER A PERIOD OF TIME?
I WOULD HAVE NO IDEA EXCEPT TO STATE THAT THEY HAVE ALL BEEN TURNED OVER TO YOU. I HAVEN'T REVIEWED PERSONALLY EACH AND EVERY ONE SO I DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA.
AND IN THAT CONNECTION, AS I UNDERSTAND YOUR TESTIMONY, THOSE CLUES REGARDING NICOLE BROWN SIMPSON OR WHATEVER COME IN PRETTY MUCH ON A DAILY BASIS; IS THAT CORRECT, CLUES IN THIS CASE?
ALL RIGHT. LET ME REPHRASE IT. YOU STILL GET CLUES IN THIS CASE ON A DAILY BASIS; ISN'T THAT CORRECT?
AND SO THE INVESTIGATION IN THIS CASE WILL AND MUST CONTINUE BECAUSE OF THAT; IS THAT CORRECT?
ALL RIGHT. AND SO YOU WILL TRY TO GET THAT FOR US, AND IF WE CAN FINISH YOU TODAY, YOU CAN PERHAPS BRING THAT BACK AT SOME LATER TIME; IS THAT CORRECT?
WELL, AGAIN, I HAVE TURNED OVER ALL CLUES. I -- IT MIGHT BE VERY SUBJECTIVE AS TO WHAT IS EXCULPATORY AND WHAT IS NOT. I MIGHT SUGGEST THAT YOU HAVE YOUR PEOPLE LOOK AT THOSE ALSO.
ONE PERSON'S EXCULPATORY MIGHT BE ANOTHER PERSON'S INCULPATORY? IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING?
KEY QUOTEALL RIGHT. I APPRECIATE YOUR DOING THAT. ALL RIGHT. NOW, WITH REGARD TO THE SUBJECT OF ICE CREAM, YOU KNOW YOU SAID YESTERDAY THAT PHOTOGRAPHS TEND TO MEMORIALIZE WHAT IS AT THE SCENE AND THAT SEEMED TO BE A FAIR STATEMENT. AND IN THIS INSTANCE YOU DID NOT TAKE ANY PHOTOGRAPHS OF MANY OF THE THINGS THAT WERE IN THE INTERIOR OF THAT RESIDENCE; ISN'T THAT CORRECT?
OR HAVE THEM TAKEN. AND WE HAVE ESTABLISHED PREVIOUSLY THAT YOU DIDN'T TAKE ANY PHOTOGRAPH OF THE ICE CREAM, RIGHT?
NOW, WITH REGARD TO -- TO THAT, HAVE YOU PERSONALLY OR ANYONE AT YOUR DIRECTION TALKED TO A YOUNG LADY WHO I BELIEVE IS EIGHT YEARS OLD OR THEREABOUTS WHOSE NAME IS RACHEL BERMAN?
ALL RIGHT. AND WITH REGARD TO THE KIND OF ICE CREAM THAT YOU HAD THE DETECTIVE DO A TEST ON, I THINK YOU TOLD US THAT WAS SOME KIND OF -- WHAT ICE CREAM WAS THAT?
BY MR. COCHRAN: DURING THE COURSE OF YOUR INVESTIGATION DID YOU HAVE INFORMATION THAT ON THE NIGHT OF JUNE 12, 1994, MISS NICOLE BROWN SIMPSON PURCHASED AN ICE CREAM CALLED RAIN FOREST CRUNCH?
NO. MY INFORMATION WAS THE CHOCOLATE CHIP COOKIE DOUGH AND I BELIEVE THERE WAS A CHOCOLATE CHIP --
SO IN YOUR VOLUMINOUS MATERIALS DO YOU HAVE ANY STATEMENT OR HAVE YOU READ A STATEMENT FROM RACHEL BERMAN WHO APPARENTLY WAS WITH THEM THAT EVENING? HAVE YOU READ THAT STATEMENT?
BY MR. COCHRAN: AS TO WHAT KIND OF ICE CREAM THEY PURCHASED WHEN THEY WENT TO BEN AND JERRY'S?
NO. I RECEIVED THAT INFORMATION THROUGH THE BROWN FAMILY AS TO WHAT EACH ONE OF THE THREE CHILDREN PURCHASED.
ALL RIGHT. DO YOU THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL -- STRIKE THAT. IN YOUR INVESTIGATION YOU LEARNED, DID YOU NOT, THAT THE BROWN FAMILY THEMSELVES WERE NOT WITH MISS NICOLE BROWN SIMPSON AND THE CHILDREN AND RACHEL BERMAN WHEN THE ICE CREAM WAS PURCHASED? DID YOU NOT FIND THAT OUT?
THEY WEREN'T WITH THEM. NOW, WOULD IT BE HELPFUL TO YOU TO TALK TO A CHILD NOT INVOLVED IN THIS CASE WHO WAS PRESENT WHEN THE ICE CREAM WAS PURCHASED?
I WAS ADVISED BY THE BROWN FAMILY THAT I COULD NOT TALK TO THE CHILDREN, THAT THEY WERE UNDER THE CARE OF A CHILD PSYCHOLOGIST, SO I RESPECTED THAT.
KEY QUOTEI UNDERSTAND YOU TOLD US THAT YESTERDAY. I'M ASKING YOU NOW ABOUT RACHEL BERMAN, NOT THE SIMPSON CHILDREN. I'M ASKING YOU HAVE YOU OR ANYONE UNDER YOUR DIRECTION TALKED TO THAT CHILD INDIVIDUALLY?
WELL, AS THE INVESTIGATOR, WOULD IT BE HELPFUL TO YOU TO TALK TO A CHILD WHO WAS PRESENT, SIR, AND FIND OUT ABOUT THE ICE CREAM?
DID YOU ALSO -- DID YOU FIND OUT AT ANY POINT THAT -- LET ME ASK YOU THIS: DID YOU FIND OUT AT ANY POINT DURING THE COURSE OF YOUR INVESTIGATION THAT THE FLAVORS PURCHASED WERE RAIN FOREST CRUNCH? DID YOU EVER FIND THAT OUT?
I BELIEVE IT WAS COOKIE DOUGH. MY INFORMATION WAS ONE CHOCOLATE FUDGE AND TWO COOKIE DOUGHS.
NOW, IN THIS -- YOU DESCRIBED FOR US THAT BEFORE LUNCH ABOUT THESE DRUG KILLINGS AND YOU -- I ASKED YOU SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS COLOMBIAN NECKLACE AND REMEMBER WE TALKED ABOUT THAT?
BY MR. COCHRAN: HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF A COLOMBIAN NECKTIE BEING A SITUATION WHERE IN A DRUG KILLING A PERSON'S THROAT IS SLASHED AND THEIR TONGUE IS PULLED DOWN THROUGH WHERE THEIR -- THROUGH THE NECK AREA? HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF THAT?
KEY QUOTEALL RIGHT. WHAT YOU TALKED ABOUT WAS A NECKTIE USED IN SOUTH AFRICA WHERE TIRES WERE PUT OVER --
I DON'T KNOW WHERE THESE THINGS OCCUR. THE ONLY NECKTIE REFERENCE I'VE HEARD IS WITH A TIRE.
BUT IN THAT CASE THERE WAS A DRUG KILLING THAT RESULTED IN WHICH YOU INVESTIGATED; IS THAT CORRECT?
VERY WELL. NOW, THIS MORNING I ASKED YOU SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT FAYE RESNICK, AND YOU ARE AWARE, BECAUSE YOU HAVE SEEN RECORDS SUBPOENAED FROM A DRUG TREATMENT FACILITY CALLED EXODUS -- ISN'T THAT RIGHT, REGARDING FAYE RESNICK? YOU HAVE SEEN THOSE RECORDS, HAVEN'T YOU?
YOU ARE THE LEAD INVESTIGATOR IN THIS CASE AND YOU HAVE NEVER SEEN ANY RECORDS FROM A DRUG TREATMENT FACILITY CALLED EXODUS?
FAYE RESNICK BECAME A WITNESS AFTER THIS CASE WAS FILED AND DEALT WITH THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND I WASN'T PRESENT FOR THOSE INTERVIEWS.
HAVE YOU HAD OCCASION, IN THE COURSE OF YOUR INVESTIGATION, TO EVER REVIEW THIS BOOK ALLEGEDLY WRITTEN BY FAYE RESNICK?
AND IN THAT BOOK, AFTER READING THE BOOK, IF IT IS TO BE BELIEVED, YOU BECAME AWARE, DID YOU NOT, THAT FAYE RESNICK HAD HAD A HISTORY --
I WAS ADVISED BY THE BROWN FAMILY THAT I COULD NOT TALK TO THE CHILDREN, THAT THEY WERE UNDER THE CARE OF A CHILD PSYCHOLOGIST, SO I RESPECTED THAT.
IT MIGHT BE VERY SUBJECTIVE AS TO WHAT IS EXCULPATORY AND WHAT IS NOT. I MIGHT SUGGEST THAT YOU HAVE YOUR PEOPLE LOOK AT THOSE ALSO.
HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF A COLOMBIAN NECKTIE BEING A SITUATION WHERE IN A DRUG KILLING A PERSON'S THROAT IS SLASHED AND THEIR TONGUE IS PULLED DOWN THROUGH WHERE THEIR -- THROUGH THE NECK AREA?
ONE PERSON'S EXCULPATORY MIGHT BE ANOTHER PERSON'S INCULPATORY? IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING? CERTAINLY.