Redirect examination of Det. Tom Lange (afternoon, part 3)

📄 Redirect examination of Det. Tom Lange (afternoon, part 3) — Tuesday, March 7, 1995

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◀ Sidebar: theory of case Sidebar: exhibit 101 videotape ▶

Witness: Det. Tom Lange
Examiner: Marcia Clark
Called by: Prosecution • Date: Tuesday, March 7, 1995 • Utterances: 227

Marcia Clark conducts redirect examination of Detective Tom Lange, focusing on his theory that a single perpetrator committed both murders, supported by a lone set of bloody shoeprints and a blood mixture cast-off found on Ron Goldman's boot sole. The session also covers the introduction of a ring found beneath Goldman's body (passed to the jury to examine), the rationale for removing bodies before evidence at the tight Bundy crime scene, and the absence of bloody shoeprints inside Nicole's home.

# 1 (THE FOLLOWING PROCEEDINGS WERE HELD IN OPEN COURT:)

# 2 THE COURT:

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, COUNSEL.

# 3 (DISCUSSION HELD OFF THE RECORD BETWEEN THE DEPUTY DISTRICT ATTORNEYS.)

# 4 THE COURT:

MISS CLARK.

# 5 MS. CLARK:

THANK YOU, YOUR HONOR.

# 6 Q:

SIR, WITHOUT GIVING US YOUR OPINION AS TO THE GUILT OR INNOCENCE OF THE DEFENDANT BEFORE THE COURT NOW, DID YOU FORMULATE A THEORY AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THIS MURDER WAS PERPETRATED BY ONE OR TWO PEOPLE?

# 7 A:

YES.

# 8 Q:

AND WHAT WAS THAT THEORY, SIR?

# 9 A:

THAT IT WAS PERPETRATED BY ONE PERSON.

# 10 Q:

AND WHAT IS THAT BASED ON?

# 11 A:

I OBSERVED ONE DISTINCT SET OF BLOODY SHOEPRINTS BETWEEN BOTH VICTIMS LEADING AWAY FROM BOTH VICTIMS WEST ON THE SIDEWALK AWAY FROM THE LOCATION. BOTH VICTIMS WERE KILLED IN A SIMILAR MANNER, SLASHING AND STABBING WOUNDS. BOTH VICTIMS HAD THEIR THROATS SLASHED. I OBSERVED A DROP OF BLOOD ON THE SOLE OF THE BOOT OF MR. GOLDMAN THAT CONTAINED A MIXTURE OF BLOOD FROM BOTH VICTIMS, INDICATING TO ME A CAST OFF --

KEY QUOTE

# 12 MR. COCHRAN:

OBJECT TO THE LAST PART.

# 13 THE COURT:

OVERRULED.

# 14 MR. COCHRAN:

STRICKEN.

# 15 THE COURT:

OVERRULED.

# 16 DET. TOM LANGE:

INDICATING TO ME A CAST OFF OF BLOOD FROM ONE MURDER WEAPON.

# 17 Q:

BY MS. CLARK: DID YOU SEE ANYTHING TO INDICATE TO YOU, SIR, THAT THE PERPETRATOR MOVED BETWEEN THE TWO VICTIMS?

# 18 A:

YES.

# 19 Q:

AND WHAT WAS THAT?

# 20 A:

THE BLOODY SHOEPRINTS, SAME DISTINCT PATTERN THAT I OBSERVED GOING AWAY FROM THE LOCATION.

# 21 MR. FAIRTLOUGH:

YOUR HONOR, MAY THIS NEXT PHOTOGRAPH BE MARKED PEOPLE'S EXHIBIT NO. 98?

# 22 (DISCUSSION HELD OFF THE RECORD BETWEEN DEPUTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY AND DEFENSE COUNSEL.)

# 23 THE COURT:

MRS. ROBERTSON, 98?

# 24 THE CLERK:

YES.

# 25 THE COURT:

98.

# 26 (PEO'S 98 FOR ID = PHOTOGRAPH)

# 27 (DISCUSSION HELD OFF THE RECORD BETWEEN DEPUTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY AND DEFENSE COUNSEL.)

# 28 MR. FAIRTLOUGH:

YOUR HONOR, MAY THIS NEXT PHOTOGRAPH BE MARKED PEOPLE'S 98?

# 29 THE COURT:

YES.

# 30 MR. FAIRTLOUGH:

AND I RECOMMEND THAT YOU CUT THE FEED.

# 31 THE COURT:

THANK YOU.

# 32 MR. FAIRTLOUGH:

2, PLEASE.

# 33 MS. CLARK:

THIS IS PEOPLE'S 98.

# 34 Q:

WHAT IS SHOWN IN THIS PHOTOGRAPH, SIR?

# 35 A:

IT IS THE SOLE PORTION OF THE BOTTOM OF RIGHT FOOT OF MR. GOLDMAN.

# 36 Q:

AND CAN YOU DESCRIBE FOR US, SIR, WHERE IN THIS PHOTOGRAPH YOU SAW DROPS THAT APPEARED TO BE BLOOD?

# 37 A:

THERE ARE --

# 38 MR. COCHRAN:

ASSUMES -- OBJECTION, YOUR HONOR, ASSUMING A FACT NOT IN EVIDENCE, THAT THIS IS A --

# 39 THE COURT:

OVERRULED.

# 40 DET. TOM LANGE:

THERE ARE DROPS OF BLOOD HERE, BUT THIS IS NOT THE ONE THAT I ALLUDED TO.

# 41 MS. CLARK:

OKAY. NEXT.

# 42 MR. FAIRTLOUGH:

YOUR HONOR, MAY THIS NEXT PHOTOGRAPH BE MARKED PEOPLE'S 99?

# 43 THE COURT:

ALL RIGHT. PEOPLE'S 99.

# 44 (PEO'S 99 FOR ID = PHOTOGRAPH)

# 45 MS. CLARK:

JONATHAN, HOLD ON.

# 46 Q:

WHERE IS MR. GOLDMAN BEING SHOWN HERE?

# 47 A:

THIS IS ON THE WALKWAY IN FRONT OF THE LOCATION.

# 48 Q:

OKAY. AND WHOSE HANDS ARE -- WHOSE HAND IS HOLDING THE BOOT UP?

# 49 A:

IT APPEARS TO BE THE CORONER'S ASSISTANT.

# 50 Q:

AND WHO IS STANDING IN THE BACKGROUND?

# 51 (NO AUDIBLE RESPONSE.)

# 52 Q:

DO YOU SEE SOMEONE STANDING THERE?

# 53 A:

IT APPEARS TO BE THE CORONER'S INVESTIGATOR.

# 54 Q:

CLAUDINE RATCLIFFE?

# 55 A:

YES.

# 56 MR. FAIRTLOUGH:

PEOPLE'S 99, AND YOUR HONOR, IS THE FEED CUT?

# 57 THE COURT:

YES, IT IS.

# 58 Q:

BY MS. CLARK: OKAY. NOW, TELL US WHAT THIS PHOTOGRAPH SHOWS.

# 59 A:

IT SHOWS THE BOTTOM OF THE BOOT OF THE LEFT FOOT OF MR. GOLDMAN.

# 60 Q:

DO YOU SEE IN THAT PHOTOGRAPH THE BLOOD DROP -- THE MIXTURE OF BLOOD THAT YOU REFERRED TO?

# 61 A:

YES.

# 62 Q:

WHERE IS IT?

# 63 A:

IN THE CENTER ON THE WHITE PORTION THAT IS NOT MUDDIED.

# 64 Q:

UH-HUH. NOW, WHAT DOES THE EXISTENCE OF A BLOOD DROP LIKE THAT ON THE SOLE OF THE SHOE INDICATE TO YOU?

# 65 A:

IT INDICATES TO ME THAT THAT MIXTURE OF BLOOD IS PROBABLY A CAST OFF FROM A WEAPON. AS THE WEAPON WAS BEING SLASHED OR MOVED IN SOME MANNER, THAT THAT DROP WAS SOMEHOW SLUNG OFF OF THE WEAPON.

KEY QUOTE

# 66 Q:

AND WHAT DOES IT TELL YOU ABOUT THE POSITION OF MR. GOLDMAN AT TIME THAT THE BLOOD WAS DRIPPED ONTO THE SOLE OF THE SHOE?

# 67 MR. COCHRAN:

JUST A MOMENT. ASSUMES A FACT NOT IN EVIDENCE, YOUR HONOR. OBJECT TO THE FORM OF THAT QUESTION. CALLS FOR SPECULATION.

# 68 THE COURT:

REPHRASE THE QUESTION.

# 69 MS. CLARK:

OKAY.

# 70 Q:

DID YOU FORM AN OPINION CONCERNING THE MANNER IN WHICH THE -- THE POSITION IN WHICH MR. GOLDMAN WAS WHEN THE BLOOD WAS DRIPPED ONTO THE SOLE OF THE SHOE?

# 71 A:

YES.

# 72 Q:

AND WHAT WAS THAT?

# 73 A:

HE WAS DOWN.

# 74 Q:

NOW, SIR, I THINK YOU INDICATED THAT AFTER THE BODY OF RON GOLDMAN WAS REMOVED FROM THE LOCATION IN WHICH YOU OBSERVED IT, WHERE IT WAS FOUND IN THAT SMALL DIRT AREA, YOU OBSERVED SOMETHING THAT HAD BEEN UNDERNEATH HIS BODY?

# 75 A:

YES.

# 76 Q:

DO YOU RECALL THAT? AND WHAT WAS IT THAT YOU OBSERVED, SIR?

# 77 A:

A RING.

# 78 (DISCUSSION HELD OFF THE RECORD BETWEEN DEPUTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY AND DEFENSE COUNSEL.)

# 79 MS. CLARK:

YOUR HONOR, I HAVE HERE A MANILA ENVELOPE WHICH CURRENTLY BEARS SEALS. I'M GOING TO ASK THAT THE DETECTIVE BREAK THE SEAL AND DESCRIBE WHAT HE IS DOING.

# 80 Q:

SIR, I'M SHOWING YOU AN ENVELOPE, MANILA ENVELOPE WHICH IS MARKED IMPRINTED WITH THE TITLE "ANALYZED EVIDENT." DO YOU RECOGNIZE THIS ENVELOPE, SIR?

# 81 A:

YES.

# 82 Q:

OKAY.

# 83 A:

IT IS AN LAPD ANALYZED EVIDENCE ENVELOPE ITEM NO. 40.

# 84 Q:

WHAT IS ITEM NO. 40 IN THIS CASE, SIR?

# 85 A:

THE RING.

# 86 Q:

THE RING?

# 87 A:

YES.

# 88 Q:

IS IT CURRENTLY SEALED, SIR?

# 89 A:

YES.

# 90 Q:

COULD YOU PLEASE OPEN THE SEAL.

# 91 A:

YES. TAKING A SCISSORS AND CUTTING ACROSS THE TOP OF THE MANILA ENVELOPE AND BREAKING THE SEAL. OPENING THE ENVELOPE. REMOVING A SMALL COIN ENVELOPE.

# 92 Q:

AND IS THE SMALL COIN ENVELOPE SEALED, SIR?

# 93 A:

YES.

# 94 Q:

COULD YOU PLEASE OPEN THAT SEAL.

# 95 A:

THERE ARE TWO PACKAGES. ONE IS LABELED "SCRAPINGS FROM RING." I WILL PUT THAT ASIDE.

# 96 Q:

OKAY. WAS THAT SMALL PACKAGE ENTITLED "SCRAPINGS FROM THE RING," IS THAT SEALED SEPARATELY?

# 97 A:

YES.

# 98 Q:

YOU HAVE REMOVED IT FROM THE FRONT OF THE SMALL MANILA COIN ENVELOPE?

# 99 A:

YES. CUTTING THE TOP OF THE SMALL MANILA ENVELOPE WITH THE SCISSORS. OPENING THE ENVELOPE.

# 100 Q:

OKAY. CAN YOU -- CAN YOU TELL US IF YOU RECOGNIZE WHAT YOU SEE INSIDE?

# 101 A:

YES. THAT APPEARS TO BE THE RING THAT I OBSERVED AT THE CRIME SCENE.

# 102 THE COURT:

DO YOU WANT TO MARK THE ENVELOPE AND CONTENTS PEOPLE'S 100?

# 103 MS. CLARK:

100.

# 104 (PEO'S 100 FOR ID = ENV/CONTENTS)

# 105 MS. CLARK:

I WONDER IF THE DETECTIVE COULD STEP DOWN AND SHOW THE JURY THE RING BY HOLDING IT ON TOP OF THE ENVELOPE IN THIS MANNER.

# 106 THE COURT:

IS IT POSSIBLE TO -- MAY I SEE THE RING?

# 107 MS. CLARK:

UH-HUH.

# 108 (BRIEF PAUSE.)

# 109 THE COURT:

I WOULD SUGGEST WE PASS IT, RATHER THAN THE ENVELOPE.

# 110 MS. CLARK:

ALL RIGHT.

# 111 THE COURT:

ALL RIGHT. IF YOU WILL HAND THAT TO JUROR NO. 1, PLEASE.

# 112 (BRIEF PAUSE.)

# 113 (THE RING IS PASSED AMONGST THE JURY.)

# 114 THE COURT:

ALL RIGHT. MISS CLARK, WOULD YOU RETRIEVE THAT, PLEASE.

# 115 (BRIEF PAUSE.)

# 116 THE COURT:

MISS CLARK.

# 117 MS. CLARK:

THANK YOU.

# 118 (DISCUSSION HELD OFF THE RECORD BETWEEN THE DEPUTY DISTRICT ATTORNEYS.)

# 119 Q:

BY MS. CLARK: NOW, WHEN YOU ARE AT A CRIME SCENE, SIR, YOU INDICATED EARLIER THAT YOU TAKE NOTES OF THE CRIME SCENE; IS THAT CORRECT?

# 120 A:

YES.

# 121 Q:

DO YOU ALSO -- IS IT ROUTINE TO HAVE PHOTOGRAPHS TAKEN AT THE CRIME SCENE?

# 122 A:

YES.

# 123 Q:

AND WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF TAKING PHOTOGRAPHS AT THE CRIME SCENE?

# 124 A:

TO MEMORIALIZE WHAT IS AT A CRIME SCENE.

# 125 Q:

OKAY. IS THAT ANOTHER METHOD OF REPORTING WHAT YOU FIND?

# 126 A:

YES.

# 127 Q:

WITH RESPECT TO THE POSITION IN WHICH ITEMS WERE FOUND OR ITEMS THAT MAY HAVE BEEN MOVED FROM THEIR ORIGINAL POSITION, DID YOU ATTEMPT TO DOCUMENT THAT IN PHOTOGRAPHS IN THIS CASE?

# 128 A:

THAT'S CORRECT.

# 129 Q:

AND THE PHOTOGRAPH THAT SHOWS THE LETTER AND THE GLOVE IN THEIR ORIGINAL POSITION, DO YOU RECALL THOSE PHOTOGRAPHS?

# 130 A:

YES.

# 131 THE COURT:

LETTER?

# 132 MR. COCHRAN:

OBJECT, YOUR HONOR. OBJECT TO THE FORM OF THAT QUESTION, YOUR HONOR.

# 133 MS. CLARK:

ENVELOPE.

# 134 THE COURT:

SUSTAINED.

# 135 MR. COCHRAN:

I OBJECT TO THE FORM, WORD "ORIGINAL POSITION" ALSO; CONCLUSION.

# 136 THE COURT:

WHY DON'T YOU REPHRASE THE QUESTION. COMPOUND. ASSUMES FACT THAT AREN'T IN EVIDENCE.

# 137 MS. CLARK:

THAT'S FINE.

# 138 Q:

DO YOU RECALL BEING SHOWN PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE ENVELOPE AND THE GLOVE THAT WERE FOUND AT THE FEET OF RON GOLDMAN, SIR?

# 139 A:

YES.

# 140 Q:

AND DO YOU RECALL BEING SHOWN PHOTOGRAPHS OF THOSE SAME ITEMS TAKEN AFTER THE BODIES WERE REMOVED FROM THE SCENE?

# 141 A:

THAT'S CORRECT.

# 142 Q:

AND WHAT DID THAT ACCOMPLISH, THOSE FIRST PHOTOGRAPHS?

# 143 A:

THE FIRST PHOTOGRAPHS SHOWED THE EVIDENCE AND THE LOCATION THAT I FIRST OBSERVED THEM. THE SECOND PHOTOGRAPHS SHOWED THOSE SAME ITEMS OF EVIDENCE IN A DIFFERENT POSITION AFTER THE BODY OF MR. GOLDMAN HAD BEEN REMOVED.

# 144 THE COURT:

MISS CLARK, DO YOU NEED THE RING ANY LONGER?

# 145 MS. CLARK:

I'M SORRY?

# 146 THE COURT:

DO YOU NEED THE RING ANY LONGER?

# 147 MS. CLARK:

NO, WE CAN PUT THAT AWAY.

# 148 THE COURT:

PERHAPS WE CAN HAVE THE DETECTIVE PUT THAT AWAY. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE SCRAPINGS ENVELOPE.

# 149 (BRIEF PAUSE.)

# 150 Q:

BY MS. CLARK: ALL RIGHT. NOW, WITH RESPECT TO THE VIDEOTAPE YOU WERE SHOWN WITH THE CORONER'S REPRESENTATIVES IN THERE AND THE PHOTOGRAPHER IN THERE, TELL US, IN YOUR EXPERIENCE, SIR, 250 HOMICIDES, HAVE YOU EVER HAD A CRIME SCENE WHERE THE CORONER AND CORONER INVESTIGATORS DID NOT COME IN TO REMOVE THE BODIES?

# 151 MR. COCHRAN:

YOUR HONOR, I OBJECT. THAT IS IRRELEVANT AND IMMATERIAL, YOUR HONOR.

# 152 THE COURT:

OVERRULED.

# 153 DET. TOM LANGE:

NO.

# 154 Q:

BY MS. CLARK: DO YOU KNOW OF ANY OTHER WAY OF REMOVING BODIES FROM THE CRIME SCENE OTHER THAN TO HAVE THE CORONER'S INVESTIGATORS STEP INTO IT AND REMOVE THEM?

# 155 A:

NO.

# 156 Q:

AND THE PHOTOGRAPHER, HAVE THERE BEEN PHOTOGRAPHERS AT EVERY CRIME SCENE YOU HAVE EVER INVESTIGATED, SIR?

# 157 A:

YES.

# 158 MR. COCHRAN:

LEADING AND SUGGESTIVE, YOUR HONOR.

# 159 THE COURT:

OVERRULED.

# 160 Q:

BY MS. CLARK: DO YOU KNOW OF ANY WAY FOR THE PHOTOGRAPHERS TO TAKE PHOTOGRAPHS, ACCURATE PHOTOGRAPHS, OF THE EVIDENCE AND WHERE IT WAS FOUND WITHOUT GETTING INTO THE CRIME SCENE?

# 161 A:

NO.

# 162 Q:

ARE THESE THINGS, HAVING PHOTOGRAPHERS INTO THE CRIME SCENE, THE CORONER'S INVESTIGATORS IN THERE, DOES THIS OCCUR IN EVERY CASE, SIR?

# 163 A:

YES.

# 164 MR. COCHRAN:

IRRELEVANT AND IMMATERIAL. OBJECTION.

# 165 THE COURT:

OVERRULED.

# 166 DET. TOM LANGE:

IT IS A PART OF EVERY INVESTIGATION, YES.

# 167 Q:

BY MS. CLARK: NOW, WHAT DICTATES THE MANNER IN WHICH YOU INVESTIGATE A CRIME SCENE, THE MANNER IN WHICH YOU DOCUMENT AND COLLECT EVIDENCE?

# 168 A:

WHAT DICTATES THE MANNER?

# 169 Q:

YES. WHAT DICTATES WHAT YOU DO AT A CRIME SCENE, WHO YOU CALL IN, WHEN YOU CALL THEM IN?

# 170 MR. COCHRAN:

OBJECT TO THE FORM OF THAT QUESTION. VAGUE.

# 171 THE COURT:

VAGUE. WHY DON'T YOU BE A LITTLE MORE SPECIFIC ABOUT --

# 172 MS. CLARK:

OKAY.

# 173 THE COURT:

-- WHAT YOU ARE ASKING.

# 174 MS. CLARK:

OKAY.

# 175 Q:

SIR, CAN YOU TELL US, FIRST OF ALL, DO YOU CONDUCT YOUR INVESTIGATION AT EVERY CRIME SCENE IN THE SAME WAY?

# 176 A:

I HAVE NEVER CONDUCTED A CRIME SCENE INVESTIGATION THE SAME WAY.

KEY QUOTE

# 177 Q:

AND WHY IS THAT?

# 178 A:

BECAUSE ALL HOMICIDE SCENES ARE DIFFERENT.

# 179 Q:

AND WHAT DO THOSE DIFFERENCES HAVE TO DO WITH THE MANNER IN WHICH YOU CONDUCT YOUR INVESTIGATION?

# 180 A:

DEPENDING ON HOW MANY VICTIMS, HOW THE VICTIMS ARE FOUND, THE TYPE OF EVIDENCE AT THE LOCATION, THE LOCATION ITSELF, THEY ARE ALL FACTORS IN HOW YOU WOULD HANDLE AN INVESTIGATION.

# 181 Q:

OKAY. SO THE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT YOU FOUND AT 875 SOUTH BUNDY, DID THEY IN SOME MANNER DICTATE HOW YOU CONDUCTED THE CRIME SCENE INVESTIGATION IN THIS CASE?

# 182 A:

CERTAINLY.

# 183 Q:

CAN YOU GIVE US SOME EXAMPLES?

# 184 A:

AS TO BUNDY?

# 185 Q:

YEAH.

# 186 A:

BUNDY WAS A CLOSE-IN CRIME SCENE. THE VICTIMS WERE CLOSE TO ONE ANOTHER. THE EVIDENCE WAS CLOSE TO THE VICTIMS. A DETERMINATION WAS MADE, AS ONE EXAMPLE, TO REMOVE THE VICTIMS PRIOR TO THE EVIDENCE BECAUSE OF THIS. IF THE EVIDENCE HAD BEEN SEVERAL FEET AWAY OR OUT IN THE STREET OR SOMETHING ELSE, PERHAPS THE VICTIMS WOULD HAVE STAYED AT THAT LOCATION WHILE THE EVIDENCE WAS COLLECTED. YOU JUST HAVE TO DEAL WITH WHAT YOU HAVE.

# 187 Q:

AND WITH RESPECT TO THIS PARTICULAR CRIME SCENE, DID THE PHYSICAL DISTANCE THAT YOU HAD TO WORK WITH IN TERMS OF THE LOCATION OF THE VICTIMS AND THEIR PROXIMITY TO THE EVIDENCE POSE ANY PARTICULAR PROBLEM?

# 188 A:

CERTAINLY.

# 189 Q:

AND COULD YOU EXPLAIN THAT?

# 190 A:

THE CLOSENESS OF THE VICTIMS TO ONE ANOTHER, THE CLOSENESS OF THE VICTIMS TO THE EVIDENCE.

# 191 Q:

AND WHAT DID THAT CAUSE -- WHAT DID THAT CAUSE YOU TO DO IN TERMS OF YOUR INVESTIGATION?

# 192 A:

AS FAR AS CONDUCTING THE INVESTIGATION?

# 193 Q:

AS FAR AS COLLECTING THE EVIDENCE, AS FAR AS CALLING IN THE CRIMINALIST, THE PRINT PEOPLE, ET CETERA?

# 194 MR. COCHRAN:

YOUR HONOR, I OBJECT TO THE FORM OF THAT QUESTION; LEADING.

# 195 THE COURT:

OVERRULED.

# 196 DET. TOM LANGE:

ONE WAS A DETERMINATION THAT WE WOULD REMOVE THE VICTIMS PRIOR TO THE EVIDENCE.

# 197 Q:

BY MS. CLARK: AND WHY WAS THAT DETERMINATION MADE?

# 198 A:

AGAIN --

# 199 MR. COCHRAN:

ASKED AND ANSWERED. HE JUST ANSWERED THAT.

# 200 THE COURT:

WE HAVE ALREADY ASKED AND ANSWERED THAT.

# 201 MS. CLARK:

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

# 202 Q:

INSIDE THE HOUSE AT 875 SOUTH BUNDY, SIR, CAN YOU TELL US, FIRST OF ALL, DID YOU NOTICE ANY BLOODY SHOEPRINTS ON THE CARPETING?

# 203 A:

NO.

# 204 MR. COCHRAN:

THAT HAS BEEN ASKED AND ANSWERED, YOUR HONOR.

# 205 THE COURT:

OVERRULED.

# 206 Q:

BY MS. CLARK: OKAY. THE FACT THAT YOU DID NOT FIND THAT, WHAT DID THAT MEAN TO YOU?

# 207 A:

IT INDICATED TO ME THAT THE SUSPECT HAD NOT ENTERED THE LOCATION.

KEY QUOTE

# 208 Q:

THE KNIFE ON THE COUNTER, YOU HAD THE PHOTOGRAPHER TAKE PICTURES OF THAT, YOU RECALL?

# 209 A:

YES.

# 210 Q:

ON THE KITCHEN COUNTER. DID YOU MAKE SOME DETERMINATION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT YOU THOUGHT THAT WAS IN SOME MANNER POSSIBLY RELATED TO THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF THE MURDER?

# 211 MR. COCHRAN:

YOUR HONOR, I OBJECT. THAT IS LEADING AND SUGGESTIVE AND ALSO COVERED ON DIRECT EXAMINATION AND NOT COVERED ON CROSS. IMPROPER REDIRECT EXAMINATION.

# 212 THE COURT:

YOU KNOW, IT HAS BEEN SO LONG I CAN'T REMEMBER EXACTLY. I THOUGHT WE TALKED ABOUT ON DIRECT THAT THERE HAD BEEN A DETERMINATION THAT IT HAD TESTED NEGATIVE FOR BLOOD.

# 213 MS. CLARK:

I REMEMBER THAT.

# 214 THE COURT:

ALL RIGHT.

# 215 MS. CLARK:

I THOUGHT THERE WAS CROSS ON IT.

# 216 THE COURT:

I DON'T BELIEVE SO.

# 217 MS. CLARK:

OKAY. WITHDRAWN.

# 218 THE COURT:

ALL RIGHT. DID NOT APPEAR TO BE NICKED OR DAMAGED IN ANY WAY, NO BLOOD ON IT.

# 219 MS. CLARK:

I REMEMBER THAT.

# 220 THE COURT:

AND WHERE IT BELONGS IN THE KITCHEN.

# 221 MS. CLARK:

AND -- RIGHT.

# 222 (DISCUSSION HELD OFF THE RECORD BETWEEN THE DEPUTY DISTRICT ATTORNEYS.)

# 223 MS. CLARK:

YOUR HONOR, I HAVE A VIDEOTAPE AND PHOTOGRAPHS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW THE DETECTIVE AT THIS TIME. THIS WAS A VIDEO SHOWN TO THE DEFENSE. ASK THAT IT BE MARKED PEOPLE'S NEXT IN ORDER, PEOPLE'S 101.

# 224 THE COURT:

PEOPLE'S 101.

# 225 (PEO'S 101 FOR ID = VIDEOTAPE)

# 226 MR. COCHRAN:

MAY WE APPROACH, YOUR HONOR?

# 227 THE COURT:

YES. WITH THE REPORTER, PLEASE.

Temperature

tense

Key Quotes (5)

Tom Lange

I OBSERVED ONE DISTINCT SET OF BLOODY SHOEPRINTS BETWEEN BOTH VICTIMS LEADING AWAY FROM BOTH VICTIMS WEST ON THE SIDEWALK AWAY FROM THE LOCATION.

Core basis for the single-perpetrator theory; directly counters any defense suggestion of multiple killers.

Tom Lange

IT INDICATES TO ME THAT THAT MIXTURE OF BLOOD IS PROBABLY A CAST OFF FROM A WEAPON. AS THE WEAPON WAS BEING SLASHED OR MOVED IN SOME MANNER, THAT THAT DROP WAS SOMEHOW SLUNG OFF OF THE WEAPON.

Explains the blood mixture on Goldman's boot sole as evidence of a single weapon used on both victims.

Tom Lange

HE WAS DOWN.

Blunt, devastating summation of Goldman's position when blood landed on his boot sole — implies he was already incapacitated or on the ground.

Tom Lange

I HAVE NEVER CONDUCTED A CRIME SCENE INVESTIGATION THE SAME WAY.

Defends adaptive police procedure against implied criticism that Bundy was handled improperly; frames variation as professional judgment, not error.

Tom Lange

IT INDICATED TO ME THAT THE SUSPECT HAD NOT ENTERED THE LOCATION.

Absence of bloody shoeprints inside the house is used to narrow the perpetrator's path and movements.

Evidence (7)

People's 98

Photograph of the sole of the right foot/boot of Ron Goldman

Introduced and discussed; Lange notes this is not the boot sole with the blood mixture he referenced

People's 99

Photograph of the sole of the left boot of Ron Goldman, taken on the walkway in front of the location; shows blood mixture drop in center white area

Introduced and discussed; Lange identifies the cast-off blood drop and states Goldman was 'down' when it was deposited

People's 100

LAPD analyzed evidence envelope Item No. 40 containing the ring found beneath Ron Goldman's body, plus a separately sealed packet of scrapings from the ring

Introduced; Lange opens sealed envelope live in court, removes ring, and Judge Ito has it passed among the jury

People's 101

Videotape (nature not specified before bench conference interruption)

Marked for identification; Cochran requests to approach before it is shown

Informal

Photographs of envelope and glove found at Ron Goldman's feet, taken before and after body removal

Referenced to document evidence position pre- and post-body removal

Informal

Knife on kitchen counter at 875 South Bundy

Clark attempts to revisit; Ito notes it was already established as negative for blood on direct; Clark withdraws the question

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Notable Exchanges (4)

Marcia Clark•Tom Lange•Lance A. Ito

The ring found under Goldman's body is opened live in court by Lange using scissors, removed from a sealed LAPD evidence envelope, and then passed among all twelve jurors at Judge Ito's direction.

procedural but dramatic

Marcia Clark•Lance A. Ito

Clark asks about the 'original position' of the envelope and glove; Ito flags the word 'letter,' Clark corrects to 'envelope,' and Cochran objects to 'original position' as a conclusion — Ito sustains and asks her to rephrase.

procedural

Marcia Clark•Lance A. Ito

Clark tries to revisit the kitchen knife; Ito reminds her it was already covered on direct (no blood, not nicked, belongs in the kitchen) and that he doesn't believe it was raised on cross — Clark withdraws.

procedural, mildly corrective

Tom Lange•Marcia Clark

Lange explains why bodies were removed before evidence at Bundy: the extreme proximity of the victims to each other and to the evidence made it the only practical sequence, and no two homicide scenes are ever investigated identically.

strategic, rehabilitative

Light Moments (1)

Lance A. Ito

Judge Ito interjects mid-testimony to ask whether Clark still needs the ring, then expresses concern specifically about the 'scrapings envelope' being left open on the stand.

Credibility Attacks (1)

⚔ Tom Lange

implied procedural criticism

Cochran's objections to questions about why the coroner and photographers were present at the scene suggest a cross-examination argument that the crime scene was contaminated or improperly handled; Clark uses redirect to have Lange establish these as routine, unavoidable elements of every investigation.

Witness Demeanor

(NO AUDIBLE RESPONSE.) — Lange pauses when asked who is standing in the background of People's 99 before identifying the coroner's investigator

Objections

14 objections (4 sustained, 10 overruled)

Proceeding 5198 • 227 utterances • Prosecution witness

Criminal Trial

Department 103