Limousine driver Allan Park resumes direct examination by Marcia Clark, walking through his arrival at Rockingham on the night of June 12th using phone records to precisely reconstruct his timeline. Most critically, Park testifies that around 10:54-55 PM he simultaneously observed Kato Kaelin emerge from behind the house with a flashlight and saw a large figure in dark clothing — whom he described as Black, six feet tall, 200 pounds — walk into the front entrance of the Simpson residence. Minutes later, when Park finally buzzed the intercom, Simpson answered immediately and claimed he had overslept.
# 1 THE COURT: THANK YOU, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. BE SEATED. ALL RIGHT. LET THE RECORD REFLECT WE HAVE ALL BEEN JOINED BY ALL THE MEMBERS OF OUR JURY PANEL. MR. PARK, WOULD YOU RESUME THE WITNESS STAND, PLEASE.
ALLAN PARK, THE WITNESS ON THE STAND AT THE TIME OF THE NOON RECESS, RESUMED THE STAND AND TESTIFIED FURTHER AS FOLLOWS:
# 2 THE COURT: ALL RIGHT. GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. PARK.
# 3 ALLAN PARK: GOOD AFTERNOON.
# 4 THE COURT: YOU ARE REMINDED, SIR, YOU ARE STILL UNDER OATH. AND MISS CLARK, YOU MAY CONTINUE WITH YOUR DIRECT EXAMINATION.
# 5 MS. CLARK: THANK YOU, YOUR HONOR.
# 6 DIRECT EXAMINATION (RESUMED)
# 8 Q: MR. PARK, I NOTICE YOU ARE NOT WEARING GLASSES AT THIS MOMENT. ARE YOU WEARING CONTACTS?
# 10 Q: ON THE NIGHT OF JUNE THE 12TH, SIR, WHEN YOU PICKED UP MR. SIMPSON TO TAKE HIM TO THE AIRPORT, WERE YOU WEARING GLASSES?
# 12 Q: WERE YOU WEARING CONTACTS?
# 14 Q: DO YOU EVER WEAR GLASSES?
# 16 Q: FOR WHAT PURPOSE?
# 17 A: A LOT OF TIMES DRIVING AT NIGHT, JUST SEEING FREEWAY SIGNS FROM A VERY FAR DISTANCE.
# 18 Q: SO WHAT DO YOU NEED GLASSES FOR?
# 19 A: WHAT DO I -- WHAT DO I NEED THEM FOR?
# 20 Q: YES. WHEN DO YOU NEED THEM?
# 21 A: FOR SEEING VERY FAR DISTANCES.
# 22 Q: AND FOR SEEING WHAT AT A DISTANCE? FOR SEEING OBJECTS?
# 23 A: NO, JUST FOR READING STREET SIGNS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. OBJECTS I'M FINE, ANYTHING LIKE THAT. IT IS JUST LITTLE STREET SIGNS, YOU KNOW, SIGNS ARE PRETTY SMALL.
# 24 Q: OKAY. AS YOU WERE DRIVING DOWN SUNSET WESTBOUND TOWARD ROCKINGHAM, WERE YOU ABLE TO SEE THE STREET SIGN OF ROCKINGHAM?
# 26 Q: NOW, YOU INDICATED TO US, SIR, THAT WHEN YOU TURNED RIGHT ONTO ROCKINGHAM, WHEN YOU FIRST ARRIVED AT THE LOCATION, YOU WERE LOOKING AT THE CURBS?
# 28 Q: AND WHAT WAS THAT FOR THE PURPOSE OF?
# 29 A: LOOKING AT THE ADDRESSES.
# 30 Q: OKAY. HAD ANYBODY EVER AT THE GRAND JURY OR THE PRELIMINARY HEARING EVER ASKED YOU HOW YOU LOCATED THE ADDRESS OF MR. SIMPSON'S RESIDENCE?
# 32 Q: AND YOU HAVE TESTIFIED, SIR, BEFORE THE GRAND JURY AND AT THE PRELIMINARY HEARING IN THIS MATTER?
# 34 Q: AND YOU ALSO GAVE AN INTERVIEW TO MR. SHAPIRO ON JUNE THE 14TH, DID YOU NOT?
# 36 Q: AND ON ANY OF THOSE OCCASIONS DID ANYONE ASK YOU HOW YOU LOCATED THE DEFENDANT'S RESIDENCE?
# 38 Q: AND HOW WAS IT THAT IT CAME TO YOUR ATTENTION THAT YOU LOCATED HIS RESIDENCE BY LOOKING AT THE ADDRESSES ON THE CURB OF ROCKINGHAM?
# 39 A: WHO POINTED THAT OUT TO ME?
# 40 Q: HOW DID IT COME TO YOUR ATTENTION THAT THAT IS HOW YOU LOCATED HIS ADDRESS?
# 41 A: WITH A DISCUSSION WITH MY MOM.
# 42 Q: AND WHEN YOU BECAME AWARE OF THE FACT THAT YOU HAD BEEN LOOKING AT THE CURBS FOR THE ADDRESSES TO LOCATE MR. SIMPSON'S RESIDENCE, AND THAT THAT IS HOW YOU LOCATED HIS ADDRESS, WHY WAS THAT SIGNIFICANT TO YOU?
# 43 A: BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW -- I DIDN'T KNOW -- I WAS LOOKING FOR HIS HOUSE, SO I WAS LOOKING AT ADDRESSES ALONG THE CURB TO FIND OUT WHICH ONE WAS HIS AND THAT WAS THE ONLY SPOT THERE WAS AN ADDRESS. I SAW THEM ALL THE WAY DOWN THE STREET, SO --
# 44 Q: OKAY. SO YOU RECALLED THAT YOU SAW THAT ADDRESS?
# 46 Q: AND YOU WERE LOOKING AT THAT CURB?
# 48 MR. FAIRTLOUGH: PEOPLE'S EXHIBIT NO. 62-A.
# 49 Q: BY MS. CLARK: AND WHEN YOU LOOKED AT THE CURB AND SAW THE ADDRESS ON THAT NIGHT AS YOU DROVE UP ROCKINGHAM, YOU INDICATED BEFORE THAT YOU SAW NO WHITE BRONCO?
# 50 MR. COCHRAN: YOUR HONOR, MAY WE -- MAY WE APPROACH? LEADING. IF THIS IS FOUNDATIONAL --
# 51 MS. CLARK: IT IS FOUNDATIONAL. HE HAS ALREADY SO TESTIFIED.
# 52 MR. COCHRAN: LEADING.
# 53 THE COURT: OVERRULED AT THIS POINT. WE ARE BACK TO THE POINT OF COMING UP ROCKINGHAM, CORRECT?
# 54 MS. CLARK: RIGHT, RIGHT.
# 55 THE COURT: ALL RIGHT. PROCEED. THANK YOU, COUNSEL.
# 56 MR. COCHRAN: THANK YOU, YOUR HONOR.
# 57 Q: BY MS. CLARK: AND WHEN YOU LOOKED AT THE CURB AND YOU SAW THE ADDRESS ON THAT NIGHT AS YOU DROVE UP ROCKINGHAM, YOU INDICATED BEFORE THAT YOU DID NOT SEE THE WHITE BRONCO THERE?
# 58 MR. COCHRAN: YOUR HONOR, OBJECT. ASKED AND ANSWERED THREE OR FOUR TIMES.
# 59 THE COURT: OVERRULED.
# 60 MS. CLARK: YOUR HONOR --
# 63 Q: OKAY. DID YOU SEE ANY CARS PARKED ALONG THE CURB TO THE NORTH OF THE ROCKINGHAM GATE?
# 66 (DISCUSSION HELD OFF THE RECORD BETWEEN THE DEPUTY DISTRICT ATTORNEYS.) # 67 Q: BY MS. CLARK: AND THEN YOU INDICATED AT SOME POINT THAT YOU WERE PARKED ON ASHFORD?
# 69 MR. FAIRTLOUGH: PEOPLE'S EXHIBIT NO. 63.
# 70 Q: BY MS. CLARK: AND THAT YOU AT SOME POINT PARKED FACING IN TOWARDS THE ASHFORD GATE?
# 71 MR. COCHRAN: YOUR HONOR, AGAIN, WE WOULD LIKE TO OBJECT. WE COVERED ALL THIS THIS MORNING.
# 72 MS. CLARK: THIS IS FOUNDATIONAL TO ANOTHER QUESTION.
# 73 MR. COCHRAN: IT HAS BEEN ASKED AND ANSWERED.
# 74 THE COURT: ALL RIGHT. OVERRULED AT THIS POINT.
# 76 Q: DO YOU RECALL THAT TESTIMONY?
# 78 Q: DID YOU NOTICE ANY -- DID YOU NOTICE ANY CAR, OTHER THAN THE 300ZX THAT YOU MENTIONED?
# 79 A: NOT THAT I REMEMBER, NO.
# 80 Q: THAT IS NEAR THE ASHFORD GATE?
# 81 A: YES. NOT THAT I REMEMBER, NO.
# 82 Q: OKAY. DO YOU RECALL --
# 83 (DISCUSSION HELD OFF THE RECORD BETWEEN THE DEPUTY DISTRICT ATTORNEYS.) # 84 MS. CLARK: PEOPLE'S 64.
# 85 Q: SHOWING YOU PEOPLE'S 64, SIR, WHEN YOU WERE -- DO YOU RECOGNIZE THAT?
# 87 Q: AND WHAT IS THAT?
# 88 A: THAT IS THE ASHFORD GATE.
# 89 MR. COCHRAN: ASKED AND ANSWERED. THIS IS ASKED AND ANSWERED.
# 90 THE COURT: I AGREE. I AGREE. HE HAS IDENTIFIED THIS ALREADY. PROCEED.
# 91 Q: BY MS. CLARK: DID YOU NOTICE ANY WHITE FORD BRONCO PARKED TO EITHER SIDE OF THAT ASHFORD GATE?
# 93 Q: ALL RIGHT. NOW, YOU INDICATED WHEN WE BROKE FOR LUNCH THAT YOU HAD PRESSED THE BUZZER A FEW TIMES AND RECEIVED NO ANSWER. WHEN YOU WERE PRESSING THE BUZZER, SIR, CAN YOU INDICATE ON THIS PHOTOGRAPH WHAT POSITION YOU WERE IN?
# 94 THE COURT: REFERRING TO PEOPLE'S 64.
# 95 MS. CLARK: YES, YOUR HONOR.
# 96 ALLAN PARK: I WAS STANDING FACING THE INTERCOM, WHICH WOULD BE FACING SOUTHEAST DIRECTION.
# 97 Q: BY MS. CLARK: OKAY. CAN YOU PUT THE ARROW WHERE YOUR POSITION WOULD HAVE BEEN WHERE YOU WOULD BE FACING?
# 98 A: STRAIGHT DOWN FROM THERE, DOWN -- RIGHT ABOUT THERE, (INDICATING).
# 99 Q: OKAY. AND THE ARROW, IS THAT FACING THE DIRECTION YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN FACING?
# 100 A: YES. IT IS SOMEWHAT, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE COCKEYED FROM THAT. THERE YOU GO.
# 103 Q: IS THAT CORRECT, WHERE IT IS NOW?
# 105 MS. CLARK: OKAY. THANK YOU. COULD THIS BE MARKED PEOPLE'S 64-B --
# 106 (DISCUSSION HELD OFF THE RECORD BETWEEN THE DEPUTY DISTRICT ATTORNEYS.) # 107 MS. CLARK: 64-C, YOUR HONOR.
# 109 (PEO'S 64-C FOR ID = PHOTOGRAPH) # 110 Q: BY MS. CLARK: SO WHAT OBJECT WOULD YOU BE FACING WHEN YOU ARE PRESSING THE BUZZER?
# 111 A: THAT SEEMS TO BE THAT BIG BEAM, THE BIG CEMENT BEAM.
# 113 A: FROM WHAT I REMEMBER.
# 115 A: FROM WHAT I REMEMBER FACING THAT DIRECTION.
# 116 Q: AT THE TIME THAT YOU WERE RINGING THE BELL, SIR, CAN YOU TELL US WHETHER YOU COULD SEE ANY LIGHTS ON IN THE HOUSE?
# 117 A: THERE WAS ONE LIGHT ON UPSTAIRS.
# 118 Q: COULD YOU SEE ANY LIGHTS ON DOWNSTAIRS?
# 120 Q: DID IT APPEAR TO BE DARK DOWNSTAIRS?
# 122 MR. COCHRAN: OBJECT AS LEADING AND SUGGESTIVE, YOUR HONOR.
# 123 THE COURT: SUSTAINED. THE ANSWER IS STRICKEN. REPHRASE THE QUESTION.
# 124 Q: BY MS. CLARK: HOW DID IT APPEAR DOWNSTAIRS IN THE HOUSE?
# 125 A: IT APPEARED TO BE NO LIGHTS ON.
# 126 MS. CLARK: I NEED TO GET THE PHONE RECORD EXHIBIT BACK, YOUR HONOR.
(BRIEF PAUSE.) Q: BY MS. CLARK: SHOWING YOU WHAT HAS BEEN MARKED PREVIOUSLY AS PEOPLE'S 148.
# 128 MS. CLARK: CAN EVERYBODY SEE THIS?
# 129 Q: ALL RIGHT. YOU INDICATED BEFORE WE BROKE THAT YOU CALLED YOUR BOSS' PAGER AND THAT WAS AT ABOUT 10:43?
# 131 Q: AND AFTER YOU CALLED YOUR BOSS' PAGER, WHAT DID YOU DO?
# 132 A: WELL, AFTER I PAGED HIM, LIKE I SAID, I GOT BACK OUT OF THE CAR AND CONTINUED TO BUZZ THE INTERCOM A COUPLE MORE TIMES. STILL THERE WAS NO ANSWER, SO I -- THAT IS WHEN I GOT BACK INTO THE CAR AND PLACED ANOTHER PHONE CALL.
# 133 Q: OKAY. SO AFTER YOU BUZZED A COUPLE MORE TIMES, GOT NO ANSWER, WHEN YOU GOT INTO THE CAR --
# 134 MR. COCHRAN: WE WOULD LIKE TO OBJECT. RESTATING HIS TESTIMONY. OBJECT TO THE FORM OF THAT QUESTION. I'M SORRY.
# 135 THE COURT: SUSTAINED, SUSTAINED.
# 136 MS. CLARK: YOUR HONOR, MAY WE APPROACH?
# 137 THE COURT: SUSTAINED.
# 138 MS. CLARK: I WOULD LIKE TO APPROACH.
# 139 THE COURT: SUSTAINED.
# 140 Q: BY MS. CLARK: DID YOU CALL YOUR BOSS AGAIN WHEN YOU GOT BACK IN THE CAR?
# 142 Q: WHO DID YOU CALL?
# 143 A: I CALLED MY MOM.
# 145 A: TO GET A PHONE NUMBER FROM HER.
# 146 Q: AND WHY DID YOU DO THAT?
# 147 A: BECAUSE I WASN'T SURE IF THE PAGE WENT THROUGH SO I WANTED TO TRY HIS HOME PHONE BECAUSE SOMETIMES HE DOESN'T ANSWER HIS BUSINESS PHONE AFTER A CERTAIN -- CERTAIN TIME.
# 148 Q: AND WHAT PHONE NUMBER WERE YOU TRYING TO GET FROM YOUR MOTHER?
# 149 A: HIS HOME PHONE, HIS HOME PHONE NUMBER.
# 150 Q: YOUR BOSS' HOME PHONE NUMBER?
# 152 Q: AND LOOK AT THE BILL IN FRONT OF YOU, IF YOU WOULD, SIR. DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION TO THE NEXT PHONE CALL IN TIME PLACED AT 10:46 AND THIRTY SECONDS. DO YOU RECOGNIZE THE PHONE NUMBER SHOWN HERE?
# 154 Q: AND WHOSE PHONE NUMBER IS THAT?
# 155 A: THAT IS MY FATHER'S, WHICH MY MOM WAS AT.
# 156 Q: WHICH IS WHERE YOUR MOM WAS?
# 158 Q: DID YOU REACH YOUR MOTHER WHEN YOU DIALED THAT PHONE NUMBER?
# 160 Q: YOU HAD A CONVERSATION WITH HER, DID YOU?
# 162 Q: DO YOU RECALL EXACTLY HOW LONG THAT PHONE CALL LASTED WHEN YOU SPOKE TO HER?
# 163 A: EXACTLY HOW LONG? NO.
# 164 Q: ABOUT HOW LONG DO YOU THINK IT LASTED?
# 165 A: TWO TO THREE MINUTES.
# 166 Q: WOULD IT REFRESH YOUR RECOLLECTION AS TO THE PRECISE AMOUNT OF TIME IF YOU WERE TO LOOK AT THE PHONE BILL INDICATING THE DURATION OF THE CALL?
# 168 Q: OKAY. I'M POINTING OUT TO THE WITNESS THE PHONE CALL HE HAS JUST DESCRIBED ON THE BILL AND IT INDICATES UNDER "DURATION" TWO MINUTES 20 SECONDS. DOES THAT REFRESH YOUR RECOLLECTION, SIR?
# 170 Q: IS THAT ABOUT HOW LONG THAT PHONE CALL WAS?
# 172 Q: NOW, DID YOU GET SOME INFORMATION FROM YOUR MOTHER?
# 173 A: YES, I DID. SHE -- SHE GOT THE PHONE NUMBER FOR ME.
# 174 Q: AND AFTER SHE GOT THE PHONE NUMBER FOR YOU, WHAT DID YOU DO?
# 175 A: AT THAT TIME I DON'T REMEMBER IF I GOT OUT AND BUZZED ONE MORE TIME OR NOT, BUT I KNOW IT WAS JUST A FEW -- JUST A FEW SECONDS AFTER THAT I CALLED -- I CALLED HIS HOUSE.
# 176 Q: WHEN YOU SAY "HIS HOUSE," WHO IS THAT?
# 177 A: DALE ST. JOHN, MY BOSS.
# 178 Q: IS THERE A PHONE CALL INDICATED ON THAT PARTICULAR PHONE BILL IN FRONT OF YOU, PEOPLE'S 148, THAT REFLECTS THE CALL MADE TO YOUR BOSS?
# 180 Q: AND IS THAT THE CALL PLACED -- DO YOU -- FIRST OF ALL, CAN YOU LOCATE THE PHONE NUMBER, SIR?
# 182 Q: DO YOU RECOGNIZE THAT PHONE NUMBER AS YOUR BOSS' HOME PHONE?
# 184 Q: WAS THAT CALL PLACED AT 10:49:07?
# 186 Q: WHEN YOU CALLED HIM AT 10:49:07, WAS DALE ST. JOHN AT HOME?
# 188 Q: DID YOU GET ANY ANSWER?
# 190 Q: DID YOU GET AN ANSWERING MACHINE OR ANYTHING?
# 192 Q: NO ANSWER AT ALL?
# 194 Q: AFTER YOU CALLED YOUR BOSS AT HOME AND GOT NO ANSWER, WHAT DID YOU DO NEXT?
# 195 A: UMM, I STEPPED BACK OUT OF THE CAR AND PROCEEDED TO RING THE BUZZER SOME MORE TIMES, STILL GOT NO ANSWER.
# 196 Q: OKAY. HOW MANY MORE TIMES DID YOU RING THE BUZZER AT THAT POINT, SIR?
# 197 A: I DON'T KNOW. TWO OR THREE.
# 198 Q: TWO OR THREE TIMES?
# 200 Q: ALL RIGHT. WHEN YOU RANG THE BUZZER AGAIN A COUPLE MORE TIMES AND GOT NO ANSWER, WHAT HAPPENED NEXT?
# 201 A: THE NEXT THING I REMEMBERED WAS HEARING THE CAR PHONE RING INSIDE THE CAR AND GOT BACK IN AND PICKED UP THE PHONE AND IT WAS DALE ST. JOHN.
# 202 Q: OKAY. NOW, DO YOU SEE ON THE PHONE BILL IN FRONT OF YOU, SIR, A CALL AT 10:52 AND 17 SECONDS?
# 204 Q: AND YOU INDICATED BEFORE YOU DON'T KNOW THE PHONE NUMBER OF YOUR -- WHAT YOUR LIMO WAS?
# 205 A: NO, NEVER CALLED IT.
# 206 Q: OKAY. BUT YOU SURMISED EARLIER THAT THAT WAS THE NUMBER INDICATED AT THIS PHONE CALL AT 10:52:17?
# 208 Q: AND AT 10:52 AND 17 SECONDS IN THE EVENING, SIR, DID YOU SPEAK TO YOUR BOSS IN THE -- ON THE CAR PHONE IN THE STRETCH LIMO?
# 210 Q: WHEN YOU GOT OUT TO RING THE BUZZER JUST BEFORE YOU GOT THAT CALL, WAS YOUR DRIVER'S DOOR OPENED OR CLOSED?
# 212 Q: AND ON PREVIOUS -- ON THE TWO PREVIOUS OCCASIONS WHEN YOU INDICATED THAT YOU GOT OUT OF THE LIMO TO RING THE BELL, WAS THE DRIVER'S DOOR OPENED OR CLOSED?
# 213 A: IT WAS OPENED. I LEFT IT OPENED.
# 214 Q: WHEN YOU SAT DOWN AT 10:52 AND 17 SECONDS TO SPEAK TO YOUR BOSS, DALE ST. JOHN, DID YOU LEAVE THE CAR -- THE DRIVER'S DOOR OPENED OR CLOSED?
# 215 A: FROM WHAT I REMEMBER, OPENED.
# 216 Q: AS YOU SAT IN THE CAR WERE YOU SEATED -- WHICH WAY WERE YOU FACING?
# 217 A: I WAS FACING LOOKING DOWN THE DRIVEWAY TOWARD THE HOUSE.
# 218 Q: SO YOU WERE -- WERE YOU FACING IN THROUGH THE GATE?
# 220 Q: AND AS YOU SPOKE TO DALE ST. JOHN ON THE TELEPHONE, WERE YOU LOOKING AT THE DRIVEWAY AREA?
# 221 A: MOST OF THE TIME, YEAH. I MIGHT HAVE LOOKED AT THE DASHBOARD OR SOMETHING HERE OR THERE.
# 222 Q: CAN YOU TELL US WHAT THE LIGHTING WAS LIKE IN THE DRIVEWAY AREA THAT YOU WERE ABLE TO SEE?
# 223 A: THE LIGHTING? IT WASN'T -- IT WASN'T THAT BRIGHT. IT DIDN'T OFFER MUCH LIGHT AT ALL. I REMEMBER A LIGHT ON THE -- IN THE ENTRANCEWAY BY THE FRONT DOOR, AND FROM WHAT I REMEMBER, I THINK THERE WAS A LIGHT ABOVE THE GARAGE THAT DIDN'T OFFER MUCH LIGHT.
# 224 Q: I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU A DIAGRAM THAT YOU HAVE PREVIOUSLY LOOKED AT, PEOPLE'S 66, AND I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO INDICATE FOR US ON THIS DIAGRAM -- YOU CAN STEP DOWN AND TAKE A POINTER.
# 225 (WITNESS COMPLIES.) # 226 Q: FROM WHERE YOU WERE SEATED, SIR, AT THE ASHFORD GATE, WHAT PART OF THE DRIVEWAY LEADING OUT TO ROCKINGHAM WERE YOU ABLE TO SEE, IF ANY?
# 227 A: I WAS ABOUT TO THIS AREA, (INDICATING), JUST AROUND HERE. I WASN'T -- I COULDN'T SEE BEYOND THIS AT ALL.
# 228 MS. CLARK: FOR THE RECORD, THE WITNESS IS POINTING TO, IF YOU DREW A DIAGONAL LINE FROM THE NORTH --
# 230 MS. CLARK: -- WEST CORNER OF THE GARAGE ACROSS THE DRIVEWAY, HE COULDN'T SEE PAST OR DOWN -- COULD HE NOT SEE SOUTH OF THAT POINT. WE ARE GOING TO DO IT ON THE ELMO IN A MINUTE.
# 231 Q: AND WHAT WAS THE LIGHTING LIKE FOR THE BALANCE OF THE DRIVEWAY THAT YOU COULD SEE?
# 232 A: IT WASN'T VERY BRIGHT AT ALL. THERE WAS SOME LIGHTING, BUT IT -- IT WAS -- YOU KNOW, IT WASN'T A VERY BRIGHT LIGHT, LIKE I SAID. THE BRIGHTEST LIGHT CAME FROM THIS AREA, (INDICATING).
# 233 Q: FROM THE ENTRANCE AREA?
# 235 MS. CLARK: FOR THE RECORD, THE WITNESS WAS INDICATING THE ENTRANCE AREA WHEN HE SAID "THIS AREA."
# 236 THE COURT: I ALSO GOT AN "UH-HUH" AS AN ANSWER.
# 237 MS. CLARK: I'M SORRY?
# 238 THE COURT: I ALSO GOT AN "UH-HUH" AS AN ANSWER.
# 239 MS. CLARK: "UH-HUH" FROM THE WITNESS?
# 241 MS. CLARK: THANK YOU.
# 242 Q: IS THAT WHAT YOU DID?
# 243 A: I DON'T REMEMBER.
# 244 Q: YES? YOU CAN TAKE THE WITNESS STAND, SIR.
# 245 (WITNESS COMPLIES.) # 246 (DISCUSSION HELD OFF THE RECORD BETWEEN THE DEPUTY DISTRICT ATTORNEYS.) # 247 MR. FAIRTLOUGH: 1, PLEASE.
# 248 THE COURT: ALL RIGHT. MISS CLARK, DO WE NEED THE PHONE RECORD --
# 249 MS. CLARK: JUST FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE I DO AND THEN --
# 252 Q: BY MS. CLARK: ALL RIGHT. MR. PARK, IF YOU WOULD, DIRECT THE POINTER AGAIN TO INDICATE WHAT PART OF THE DRIVEWAY -- THAT BOUNDARY LINE THAT YOU INDICATED TO US BEFORE, AFTER WHICH YOU COULDN'T SEE ANYTHING. INDICATE TO US ON THIS -- HAVE THE POINTER DRAW THE LINE TO INDICATE WHAT WAS THE POINT AT WHICH YOUR VISIBILITY ENDED.
# 253 A: IT WOULD HAVE BEEN DOWN, LIKE YOU SAID, AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF THE GARAGE, AND IF YOU GO IN A DIAGONAL LINE ACROSS TO THE LAWN AREA --
# 254 MS. CLARK: I DON'T BELIEVE -- THAT IS NOT WHAT HE --
# 255 MR. COCHRAN: JUST A MOMENT, YOUR HONOR.
# 256 MS. CLARK: ERASE THAT, PLEASE. LET HIM DIRECT YOU.
# 257 ALLAN PARK: SAME SPOT WHERE YOU STARTED, BUT THE LINE WOULD HAVE BEEN MORE DIAGONALLY. IT COULD HAVE CURVED MORE TOWARDS THE LAWN. IT WASN'T STRAIGHT ACROSS.
# 258 Q: BY MS. CLARK: IS THAT CORRECT SO FAR?
# 260 Q: SHOULD HE KEEP GOING LIKE THAT?
# 261 A: YEAH. JUST ABOUT TO THERE, (INDICATING).
# 262 Q: ALL RIGHT. AND YOU INDICATED THAT THERE WAS SOME LIGHT WHERE? COULD YOU DIRECT --
# 263 A: UMM, WHERE THE WORD "ENTRANCE" IS OF THE HOUSE.
# 264 Q: YEAH. AND WHERE IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE WORD "ENTRANCE"?
# 265 A: UMM, JUST ABOUT -- THIS IS HARD TO DO WHEN YOU ARE NOT DOING IT YOURSELF HERE. UMM, JUST ABOUT THAT SQUARE PATIO AREA WOULD BE --
# 266 Q: TELL IT WHAT DIRECTION TO GO.
# 267 A: THAT WHOLE SQUARE PATIO WOULD BE FROM -- FROM EACH CORNER TO CORNER WOULD BE A CIRCLE AREA I WOULD SAY.
# 268 Q: A CIRCLE WITHIN THAT SQUARE?
# 270 Q: OKAY. ALL RIGHT. IS THAT CORRECT, SIR?
# 272 MS. CLARK: PEOPLE'S --
# 273 (DISCUSSION HELD OFF THE RECORD BETWEEN THE DEPUTY DISTRICT ATTORNEYS.) # 274 MS. CLARK: PEOPLE'S 66-D, YOUR HONOR.
# 276 (PEO'S 66-D FOR ID = PHOTOGRAPH) # 277 Q: BY MS. CLARK: ALL RIGHT. NOW, AS YOU WERE SEATED IN THE LIMOUSINE SPEAKING TO YOUR BOSS DID YOU -- DID YOU SAY SOMETHING TO YOUR BOSS?
# 278 A: YEAH. I TOLD HIM THAT I THOUGHT NOBODY WAS HOME.
# 279 Q: AND THEN WHAT HAPPENED? DID HE RESPOND TO YOU?
# 281 Q: DID HE TELL YOU TO DO SOMETHING?
# 282 A: WELL, HE ASKED ME TO --
# 283 Q: OKAY. WHAT DID YOUR BOSS TELL YOU?
# 284 A: WELL, FIRST HE TOLD ME, HE SAID -- HE SAID, "O.J.'S USUALLY RUNNING A LITTLE LATE SO HANG OUT UNTIL ABOUT 11:15. IF HE IS NOT THERE BY THEN, GO AHEAD AND COME ON HOME."
# 286 A: HE ALSO ASKED -- BECAUSE I TOLD HIM THERE WAS NO LIGHTS ON DOWNSTAIRS -- HE ASKED ME TO LOOK AT THE PANTRY AREA, WHAT HE CALLED A PANTRY AREA WHERE THERE WAS WHAT RESEMBLED SOME SUNROOFS OR SKYLIGHTING TOWARD THE GARAGE AREA AND HE ASKED ME IF THERE WAS ANY LIGHTS ON IN THERE.
# 288 A: HE SAID HE USUALLY WATCHES T.V. IN THERE.
# 289 Q: NOW, CAN YOU LOCATE THE AREA THAT HE WAS DIRECTING YOU TO LOOK AT ON THIS DIAGRAM?
# 290 A: JUST STRAIGHT DOWN FROM THE CIRCLE, RIGHT IN THAT AREA ON THE ROOF, I'M PRETTY SURE. IT IS HARD TO TELL WITH THIS KIND OF A DRAWING.
# 291 Q: OKAY. YOU THINK THAT WAS THE AREA?
# 292 A: IT WOULD HAVE BEEN SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE.
# 293 Q: ALL RIGHT. AND DID YOU DO WHAT HE ASKED YOU TO DO? DID YOU LOOK?
# 295 Q: AND DID YOU SEE ANY LIGHTS ON IN THAT AREA?
# 297 Q: AND DID YOU TELL HIM SO?
# 299 Q: NOW, THE -- YOU SEE THE AREA DESIGNATED AS "PLAY YARD"?
# 301 Q: THAT AREA, WAS THAT -- WERE YOU ABLE TO SEE IT? HOW IS IT LIT?
# 302 A: IT IS VERY DARK.
# 303 Q: AT SOME POINT DURING YOUR PHONE CONVERSATION WITH DALE ST. JOHN DID SOMETHING ATTRACT YOUR ATTENTION?
# 304 A: YES. A WHITE MALE WALKED FROM BEHIND THE HOUSE AREA ON A PATHWAY AND HE HAD A FLASHLIGHT IN HIS HAND AND HE STOPPED -- HE STOPPED BEFORE HE GOT TO THE DRIVEWAY.
KEY QUOTE # 306 A: SO I -- I TOLD DALE THAT, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY IS HOME.
# 307 Q: ALL RIGHT. NOW, AT THAT PARTICULAR POINT IN TIME HAD YOU ALREADY LOOKED AT THE -- AT THE HOUSE, THE AREA THAT YOU WERE DIRECTED TO LOOK AT BY DALE ST. JOHN, TO SEE IF THERE WERE ANY LIGHTS?
# 309 Q: AND AFTER YOU SAW THAT THERE WERE NO LIGHTS, WAS IT AFTER THAT POINT THAT YOU SAW THIS WHITE MALE?
# 311 Q: AND THAT PERSON THAT YOU ARE DESCRIBING, HAVE YOU SINCE LEARNED WHAT HIS NAME IS?
# 313 Q: AND WHAT IS HIS NAME?
# 315 Q: CAN YOU SHOW US ON THE DIAGRAM, DIRECT THE POINTER TO WHERE YOU SAW HIM ON THE SIDE YARD?
# 316 A: RIGHT THERE WHERE THE ARROW WAS WHERE THE PATH -- WHERE THE PATH COMES OUT FROM BEHIND THE HOUSE. HE CAME OUT TO JUST ABOUT THE DRIVEWAY, RIGHT THERE, (INDICATING).
# 317 Q: WAS HE ON THE DRIVEWAY OR WAS HE ON THE GRASS?
# 318 A: NO, HE WAS OFF A COUPLE FEET.
# 319 Q: OKAY. TELL THE POINTER WHERE TO GO.
# 320 A: JUST RIGHT -- RIGHT THERE, (INDICATING).
# 321 Q: OKAY. WAS HE ON THE GRASS OR ON THE PATH?
# 323 Q: YOU COULDN'T TELL?
# 325 Q: SO IS THAT THE GENERAL LOCATION WHERE HE WAS?
# 327 Q: COULD YOU TELL WHAT KIND OF FLASHLIGHT HE HAD?
# 328 A: AT THAT TIME, NO.
# 329 Q: WHAT WAS HE DOING WHEN YOU SAW HIM?
# 330 A: HE WAS JUST STANDING THERE, FROM WHAT I OBSERVED.
# 331 Q: OKAY. COULD YOU TELL WHERE HE WAS LOOKING OR WHAT HE WAS DOING?
# 332 A: HE LOOKED AT ME AND THEN HE JUST -- HE STARTED TO LOOK, YOU KNOW, IN THE AREA OF THE ROCKINGHAM DRIVEWAY.
# 333 Q: NOW, WHEN HE WAS LOOKING AT YOU, WHERE WERE YOU?
# 334 A: I WAS INSIDE THE CAR ON THE PHONE.
# 335 Q: TALKING TO YOUR BOSS?
# 337 Q: HOW LONG -- NOW, AT THE SAME TIME THAT YOU SAW KATO KAELIN IN THE SIDE YARD, DID YOU SEE ANYTHING ELSE?
# 338 A: YES. I SAW A FIGURE COME DOWN -- WELL, NOT COME DOWN, BUT I SAW A FIGURE COME INTO THE ENTRANCEWAY OF THE HOUSE JUST ABOUT WHERE THE -- WHERE THE DRIVEWAY STARTS.
# 339 Q: CAN YOU SHOW US ON THIS DIAGRAM WHERE YOU FIRST SAW THAT PERSON?
# 340 A: UMM, JUST IF YOU GO WHERE THE CIRCLE IS, GO STRAIGHT BACK -- NO, THE OTHER WAY, A LITTLE BIT FARTHER. IT WAS ABOUT THERE, (INDICATING), AROUND THAT AREA.
# 341 Q: OKAY. ROUGHLY THAT AREA?
# 343 Q: OKAY. CAN YOU DESCRIBE THE PERSON THAT YOU SAW -- WAS THAT THE FIRST POINT AT WHICH YOU SAW THE PERSON?
# 345 Q: OKAY. CAN YOU DESCRIBE WHAT HE LOOKED LIKE, WHAT THAT PERSON LOOKED LIKE.
# 346 MR. COCHRAN: OBJECT TO THE FORM OF THAT QUESTION, YOUR HONOR.
# 347 THE COURT: OVERRULED.
# 348 ALLAN PARK: SIX FOOT, 200 POUNDS.
KEY QUOTE # 349 Q: BY MS. CLARK: SIX FOOT, 200 POUNDS?
# 350 A: ALL DARK CLOTHING.
# 351 Q: AND COULD YOU TELL ANYTHING ELSE ABOUT THIS PERSON?
# 353 Q: COULD YOU TELL WHETHER THE PERSON WAS CAUCASIAN OR AFRICAN AMERICAN?
# 355 Q: OKAY. AND HOW -- IN RELATIONSHIP TO WHEN YOU SAW KATO KAELIN, WHEN DID YOU FIRST SEE THIS PERSON?
# 356 A: IT WAS JUST -- IT WAS ALMOST SIMULTANEOUSLY. IT WAS SECONDS AFTER I SAW HIM.
KEY QUOTE # 357 Q: AND THIS SIX-FOOT 200-POUND AFRICAN AMERICAN PERSON IN ALL DARK CLOTHING, WAS THIS PERSON MOVING QUICKLY OR SLOWLY?
# 358 A: NOT QUICKLY, NOT SLOWLY, A GOOD PACE WALK IT SEEMED TO BE.
# 359 Q: AND MOVING IN WHAT DIRECTION, SIR?
# 360 A: INTO THE HOUSE OR TOWARD THE HOUSE.
# 361 Q: DID YOU FORM AN OPINION AS TO WHETHER THIS WAS A MALE OR FEMALE?
# 363 Q: AND WHEN YOU SAW THAT PERSON, DID THAT PERSON WALK INTO THE ENTRANCE?
# 365 Q: AFTER THAT PERSON WALKED INTO THE ENTRANCE, WHAT DID YOU DO?
# 366 A: I THEN PROCEEDED TO -- WELL, I WAS STILL TALKING TO DALE AT THE SAME TIME. I SAID "SOMEBODY'S HERE." HE SAID, "FINE, FINISH THE JOB, TAKE HIM TO THE AIRPORT AND I WILL SEE YOU TOMORROW" OR WHATEVER. I HUNG UP THE PHONE AND I STILL WAITED ANOTHER -- IT WAS ABOUT ANOTHER THIRTY SECONDS OR SO BEFORE I GOT OUT OF THE CAR, BUT I WAS STILL WAITING FOR SOME SOMEBODY TO COME OPEN THE GATE. I FIGURED SOMEBODY WAS GOING TO COME OPEN THE GATE FOR ME. THEY STILL DIDN'T.
# 367 Q: HOW LONG AFTER YOU SAW THE SIX-FOOT 200-POUND PERSON IN ALL DARK CLOTHING GO INTO THE HOUSE DID YOU CONTINUE TO TALK TO DALE ST. JOHN?
# 368 A: OH, IT WAS JUST ANYWHERE BETWEEN TEN TO THIRTY SECONDS. IT WASN'T VERY LONG.
# 369 Q: OKAY. SO ON THE PHONE BILL IN FRONT OF YOU, SIR, ON THAT LAST CALL WHERE IT INDICATES 10:52 AND 17 SECONDS, DOES IT INDICATE HOW LONG THE PHONE CALL WAS FOR, THE DURATION OF THE CALL?
# 370 A: UMM, YES, TWO MINUTES AND 55 SECONDS.
# 371 Q: OKAY. DOES THAT COMPORT WITH YOUR MEMORY OF THE LENGTH OF THE PHONE CALL?
# 373 Q: AND SO YOU WOULD HAVE HUNG UP WITH HIM AT 10:55 AND 12 SECONDS?
# 375 Q: AND IT WAS WITHIN THE LAST TEN TO THIRTY SECONDS OF THAT CALL AT 10 -- OF ENDING THAT CALL AT 10:55 THAT YOU SAW THIS SIX-FOOT 200-POUND PERSON GO INTO THE ENTRANCE?
# 377 Q: AFTER YOU HUNG UP WITH DALE ST. JOHN YOU SAID YOU SAT FOR ANOTHER THIRTY SECONDS OR SO?
# 379 MR. COCHRAN: I WOULD LIKE TO OBJECT, YOUR HONOR.
# 380 Q: BY MS. CLARK: WHY WAS THAT?
# 381 MR. COCHRAN: THIS IS LEADING AND SUGGESTIVE AND WE COVERED THIS.
# 382 MS. CLARK: THAT WAS FOUNDATIONAL, YOUR HONOR.
# 383 THE COURT: SUSTAINED.
# 384 Q: BY MS. CLARK: AFTER YOU -- YOU INDICATED THAT YOU SAT FOR ANOTHER THIRTY SECONDS. WHY DID YOU SIT FOR ANOTHER THIRTY SECONDS IN YOUR CAR AFTER YOU HUNG UP?
# 385 A: BECAUSE I WAS WAITING FOR THE GATE TO BE OPENED. I FIGURED SOMEBODY IS HOME, THEY SAW ME AND THEY ARE GOING TO LET ME IN.
# 386 Q: AND DID KATO KAELIN COME OVER TO LET YOU IN?
# 388 Q: AND DID THE SIX-FOOT 200-POUND PERSON DRESSED IN ALL DARK CLOTHING COME TO LET YOU IN?
# 390 Q: AND AFTER THIRTY SECONDS WHAT DID YOU DO?
# 391 A: THAT IS WHEN I GOT BACK UP AND OUT OF THE CAR AND RANG THE INTERCOM. THIS TIME THERE WAS AN ANSWER, WHICH WAS MR. SIMPSON. HE TOLD ME THAT HE OVERSLEPT AND HE JUST GOT OUT OF THE SHOWER AND HE WOULD BE DOWN IN A MINUTE.
# 392 Q: OKAY. HOW MANY TIMES DID YOU HAVE TO RING THE BUZZER THIS TIME BEFORE IT WAS ANSWERED?
# 393 MR. COCHRAN: OBJECT TO THE FORM OF THE QUESTION, HOW MANY TIMES DID YOU HAVE TO RING THE BUZZER.
# 394 THE COURT: OVERRULED. YOU CAN ANSWER THE QUESTION.
# 395 ALLAN PARK: CAN YOU REPEAT IT?
# 396 Q: BY MS. CLARK: HOW MANY TIMES DID YOU HAVE TO RING THE BUZZER THIS TIME BEFORE IT WAS ANSWERED?
# 397 A: OH, IT WAS JUST -- HE ANSWERED IT PRETTY MUCH IMMEDIATELY.
# 398 Q: AS SOON AS YOU RANG?
# 400 Q: AND WHEN HE SAID TO YOU --