📄 Cross-examination of Sam Poser — Tuesday, June 20, 1995
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Cross-examination of Sam Poser

Witness: Samuel Poser
Examiner: F. Lee Bailey
Called by: Prosecution • Date: Tuesday, June 20, 1995 • Lines: 113
F. Lee Bailey cross-examined Sam Poser, a Bloomingdale's shoe salesman, about store records and Lorenzo Bruno Magli shoes. Poser said he personally did not search the records and could not say whether the retrieved purchase records included that shoe. He testified that he did not recall selling Simpson the Lorenzo boot and probably would not have sold it for the stated Buffalo conditions. Bailey then asked Poser to assume that the Reeboks identified as People's 384 belonged to Simpson; Poser read their size as US 12 / European 46.5.
1 THE COURT:

Mr. Bailey.

CROSS-EXAMINATION BY MR. BAILEY

2 MR. BAILEY:

Mr. Poser, how many times have you been questioned about this same subject matter prior to today?

3 MR. Poser:

About five, I guess.

4 MR. BAILEY:

Five times. By whom?

5 MR. Poser:

By some detectives.

6 MR. BAILEY:

From the LAPD?

7 MR. Poser:

From the LAPD, somebody from the FBI and from the Defense.

8 MR. BAILEY:

All right. And has the subject matter always been the Lorenzo Bruno Magli shoes?

9 MR. Poser:

No.

10 MR. BAILEY:

All right. Any other kind of shoes been sought, if you know?

11 MR. GOLDBERG:

Not relevant.

12 THE COURT:

Overruled.

13 MR. Poser:

Not--not--not at the beginning, not specifically.

14 MR. BAILEY:

Okay. What kind of records does Bloomingdales keep when customers who charge on credit cards purchase boots?

15 MR. Poser:

Umm, we have a journal on the register that shows what--who sold what to whom, to what credit card.

16 MR. BAILEY:

Okay.

17 MR. Poser:

As well as the receipt, a copy of the receipt that the customer signs.

18 MR. BAILEY:

Do you have a salesman's code so that a salesman will get credit?

19 MR. Poser:

Yes.

20 MR. BAILEY:

And if you sold shoes to Mr. Simpson, would you assign a code to a salesman rather than yourself?

21 MR. Poser:

Normally I was working in conjunction with a salesperson so that salesperson I was working with would get credit for the sale.

22 MR. BAILEY:

Their code would be on the slip; not yours?

23 MR. Poser:

Yes, correct.

24 MR. BAILEY:

What other information was recorded?

25 MR. Poser:

The date, the amount of each shoe, any discount that may have been taken.

26 MR. BAILEY:

I'm sorry?

27 MR. Poser:

The amount--the retail cost of each shoe and any discount that may have been taken, the tax, the total purchase--what the total purchase is and the signature of the person in a charge transaction.

28 MR. BAILEY:

Is there a code on the slip that will describe the item purchased?

29 MR. Poser:

This is a--yes, there is--there are two--there are two types of codes. There is a UPC code, which is--

30 MR. BAILEY:

UPC?

31 MR. Poser:

Universal products code.

32 MR. BAILEY:

Yes.

33 MR. Poser:

Which was used at that time sometimes and there was a department, class, vendor and mark style code that described what the merchandise was as well.

34 MR. BAILEY:

All right. Now, did you, in cooperation with the detectives, search the records of Bloomingdales looking for any evidence of a sale such as you have been asked?

35 MR. Poser:

Personally I did no searching.

36 MR. BAILEY:

Have you seen any records that were retrieved?

37 MR. Poser:

Yes.

38 MR. BAILEY:

As a result of that?

39 MR. Poser:

Yes.

40 MR. BAILEY:

Have you examined them?

41 MR. Poser:

Yes.

42 MR. BAILEY:

And have you found various purchases of shoes?

43 MR. Poser:

Yes.

44 MR. BAILEY:

None of which were a Lorenzo Bruno Maglis, right?

45 MR. Poser:

Honestly I didn't know the numbers off the top of my head.

46 MR. BAILEY:

I know.

47 MR. Poser:

So I couldn't say to the specifics of that.

48 MR. BAILEY:

Have you ever been questioned about a sales slip that showed the code for this particular shoe or seen one?

49 MR. Poser:

No.

50 MR. GOLDBERG:

Not relevant, calling for hearsay.

51 MR. Poser:

That I know of.

52 THE COURT:

Overruled.

53 MR. BAILEY:

Over what period of time was this search made, do you know?

54 MR. Poser:

I was--I was called about--I guess about six months ago I got my first call, about, so from there to present, regarding this case.

55 MR. BAILEY:

On one occasion were you questioned about the sale of the boots to Mr. Simpson in connection with his duties in buffalo?

56 MR. Poser:

I guess when I was first asked I mentioned that that was the one thing that I remembered specifically.

57 MR. BAILEY:

Right, that he had some job in buffalo and he was purchasing some boots because he would be working outdoors, right?

58 MR. Poser:

Correct.

59 MR. BAILEY:

Have you ever been to buffalo?

60 MR. Poser:

Umm, no, but I know it is cold.

KEY QUOTE
61 MR. BAILEY:

In the wintertime?

62 MR. Poser:

No.

63 MR. BAILEY:

Have you--okay.

64 MR. Poser:

No, I have not.

65 MR. BAILEY:

But did you understand that the climatic conditions were expected to be adverse when he bought these boots?

66 MR. Poser:

Yes, I did.

67 MR. BAILEY:

Were you shown a Lorenzo Bruno Magli black in color by Detective Antonio of the LAPD?

68 MR. Poser:

Yes, I was.

69 MR. BAILEY:

And did he ask you whether or not that was similar in type to what you had sold Mr. Simpson?

70 MR. Poser:

Did he ask me that?

71 MR. BAILEY:

Yes.

72 MR. Poser:

Yes, he did.

73 MR. BAILEY:

And did you not tell him that it was not?

74 MR. GOLDBERG:

Well, it calls for hearsay and it is not--

75 THE COURT:

Sustained. Rephrase the question. Without the statement you can ask him whether or not he sold that boot.

76 MR. BAILEY:

All right.

77 MR. BAILEY:

Did he ask you whether or not the boot that you had told him about was similar to the shoe he was showing you?

78 MR. Poser:

Yes, he did.

79 MR. BAILEY:

Okay. And did you tell him, no, it was not?

80 MR. Poser:

I said I did not--

81 MR. GOLDBERG:

Still calls for hearsay.

82 THE COURT:

Overruled.

83 MR. Poser:

I told him that I did not recall selling the Lorenzo boot to Mr. Simpson. I also said that for the use in buffalo, I probably would not have sold Mr. Simpson the Lorenzo boot for the climatic conditions that were there.

KEY QUOTE
84 MR. BAILEY:

Exactly. It would not do well in slush, snow and mud, would it?

KEY QUOTE
85 MR. Poser:

Correct.

86 MR. BAILEY:

Now, you mentioned the size of Mr. Simpson's shoes. Do you know if he always bought the same size or whether it varied from manufacturer to manufacturer?

87 MR. Poser:

As far as I know he bought the same--he bought the same size. I remember it to be a 12.

88 MR. BAILEY:

On how many different occasions did you fit him with new shoes?

89 MR. Poser:

About four or five as he came in.

90 MR. BAILEY:

All right. May I have a minute?

91 (Discussion held off the record between Defense counsel.)
92 (Discussion held off the record between Defense counsel and the Defendant.)
93 MR. BAILEY:

May I approach the witness, your Honor?

94 THE COURT:

You may.

95 MR. BAILEY:

Mr. Poser, would you examine these tennis shoes, please, and assume that they are shoes belonging to Mr. O.J. Simpson.

96 THE COURT:

All right. Mr. Bailey, this is People's exhibit which?

97 MR. BAILEY:

384 it looks like from the tag, your Honor.

98 THE COURT:

All right. These are the Reeboks?

99 MR. BAILEY:

These are Reeboks, your Honor.

100 THE COURT:

All right.

101 MR. BAILEY:

Can you tell me what size those shoes are?

102 MR. Poser:

Those are size 12, U.S.

103 MR. BAILEY:

12 and a half perhaps?

104 MR. Poser:

It says size 12 USA.

105 MR. BAILEY:

And European size?

106 MR. Poser:

European size 46 and a half.

107 MR. BAILEY:

Do you see anything about the width?

108 MR. Poser:

Not--no.

109 MR. BAILEY:

Okay. You can set those down.

110 (Witness complies.)
111 (Discussion held off the record between Defense counsel.)
112 (Discussion held off the record between Defense counsel and the Defendant.)
113 MR. BAILEY:

No further questions, your Honor.

Temperature

procedural

Key Quotes (4)

Samuel Poser
I told him that I did not recall selling the Lorenzo boot to Mr. Simpson. I also said that for the use in buffalo, I probably would not have sold Mr. Simpson the Lorenzo boot for the climatic conditions that were there.
Core defense point: the shoe salesman who knew Simpson's buying habits says the Lorenzo Bruno Magli was the wrong boot for the purpose Simpson was buying footwear, undermining the prosecution's shoe evidence.
F. Lee Bailey
It would not do well in slush, snow and mud, would it?
Bailey posed the proposition that the Lorenzo Bruno Magli would not do well in slush, snow, and mud, and Poser agreed.
Samuel Poser
Umm, no, but I know it is cold.
A moment of levity that humanizes the witness while reinforcing his practical knowledge about appropriate footwear for cold climates.
Samuel Poser
No.
Shows that Poser had not been questioned about or seen such a sales slip, to his knowledge; it does not establish that no matching record existed.

Evidence (3)

People's 384
Reebok tennis shoes, size US 12 / European 46.5
Shown to witness to confirm shoe size
Informal
Bloomingdale's sales records (journal, receipts, UPC/department codes) searched for evidence of a Lorenzo Bruno Magli purchase
Discussed; Poser could not say whether the retrieved records included a Lorenzo Bruno Magli purchase
Informal
Lorenzo Bruno Magli black boot shown to Poser by LAPD Detective Antonio
Referenced; Poser said he did not recall selling it to Simpson

Notable Exchanges (2)

F. Lee BaileySamuel Poser
Bailey walked Poser through exactly what he told Detective Antonio — that he did not recall selling Simpson the Lorenzo boot and probably would not have sold it for the stated Buffalo conditions — turning the prosecution's own witness into support for the defense's shoe theory.
strategic
F. Lee BaileySamuel Poser
Bailey had Poser examine Reeboks and confirm their US size 12 / European 46.5 sizing, after instructing him to assume they belonged to O.J. Simpson.
methodical

Light Moments (1)

Samuel Poser
When Bailey asked if Poser had ever been to Buffalo, Poser replied that he had not, but knew it was cold.

Credibility Attacks (1)

⚔ prosecution's shoe theory
adverse witness elicitation
Bailey used Poser — a prosecution witness — to challenge the prosecution's shoe theory by eliciting that Poser did not recall selling Simpson the Lorenzo boot and probably would not have sold it for the stated Buffalo conditions.

Witness Demeanor

(Witness complies.) — after Bailey told him to set the Reeboks down
(Discussion held off the record between Defense counsel.) — twice during examination
(Discussion held off the record between Defense counsel and the Defendant.) — twice

Objections

5 objections (1 sustained, 3 overruled)
Proceeding 6460 • 113 lines • Prosecution witness
Criminal Trial
Department 103
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