Redirect examination of Josephine Guarin

📄 Redirect examination of Josephine Guarin — Thursday, July 20, 1995

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◀ Cross-examination of Josephine Guarin (part 2) Recross-examination of Josephine Guarin ▶

Witness: Josephine Guarin
Examiner: Johnnie Cochran
Called by: Defense • Date: Thursday, July 20, 1995 • Utterances: 96

Cochran conducted a brief redirect examination of housekeeper Josephine Guarin, rehabilitating her credibility after Darden's cross by confirming she answered only what officers asked on the field interrogation card. He also established that clothes near the washing machine belonged to Arnelle and Kato, clarified Guarin's cleaning schedule for the foyer, confirmed Paula Barbieri's presence at Rockingham on Friday night June 10, and drew attention to a side entrance accessible only by master key — of which only Guarin and Simpson possessed copies.

# 1 MR. COCHRAN:

Just a few questions if I might, your Honor.

REDIRECT EXAMINATION BY MR. COCHRAN

# 2 MR. COCHRAN:

With regard to this card that Mr. Darden showed you, the field interrogation card, you answered just the questions the police officer asked you; isn't that correct?

# 3 MS. GUARIN:

Yes, I do.

# 4 MR. COCHRAN:

And you told this police officer the truth; is that correct?

# 5 MS. GUARIN:

Yes, I do.

# 6 MR. COCHRAN:

And if the police officer had asked you if you were at Knotts Berry Farm or where you were, you would have told him, right?

# 7 MS. GUARIN:

I would tell them where I am.

# 8 MR. COCHRAN:

All right. And if the officer had asked you if you asked permission to stay out and not come home that night, you would have told them that, right?

# 9 MS. GUARIN:

Yes.

# 10 MR. DARDEN:

Objection. Leading, your Honor.

# 11 THE COURT:

It is. Mr. Gordon, keep your voice down, would you, please.

# 12 MR. COCHRAN:

Now, with regard to the clothes that were in the hamper, I saw some--

# 13 MR. COCHRAN:

Excuse me, your Honor.

# 14 MR. COCHRAN:

--I saw some panties--

# 15 MR. DARDEN:

Objection, your Honor.

# 16 THE COURT:

Overruled.

# 17 MR. COCHRAN:

I saw some parties in and around the washing machine. Mr. Simpson never wore any panties around that house, did he?

# 18 MS. GUARIN:

No.

# 19 MR. COCHRAN:

And you know that those clothes and that hamper, that was Arnelle's clothes; isn't that correct?

# 20 MS. GUARIN:

Yes, they are.

# 21 MR. COCHRAN:

And Arnelle would wash her clothes inside the house there; isn't that correct?

# 22 MS. GUARIN:

Yes.

# 23 MR. COCHRAN:

And would Kato Kaelin also wash his clothes in the house also?

# 24 MS. GUARIN:

Yes.

# 25 MR. COCHRAN:

Now, does Mr. Simpson shave every day as far as you know?

# 26 MS. GUARIN:

I think, yes.

# 27 MR. COCHRAN:

Now, with regard to--you were asked some questions about cleaning the house, and I believe you indicated to Mr. Darden that you had kind of a routine. You'd clean various parts of the house on various days in the week; is that correct?

# 28 MS. GUARIN:

Yes.

# 29 MR. COCHRAN:

With regard to the foyer area of the Rockingham residence, do you recall on what days of the week that you cleaned that foyer area prior to the time you left on Friday, June the 10th?

# 30 MS. GUARIN:

I mop it maybe around Tuesday or Wednesday.

KEY QUOTE

# 31 MR. COCHRAN:

All right. Tuesday or Wednesday, earlier in the week?

# 32 MS. GUARIN:

Yes. Early in the week.

# 33 MR. COCHRAN:

And you had not cleaned that area after that; is that correct?

# 34 MS. GUARIN:

I just sweep it, not mopping it.

# 35 MR. COCHRAN:

All right. Now, on Friday night, you said that Mr. Simpson had come back home from out of town?

# 36 MS. GUARIN:

Yes. Yes.

# 37 MR. COCHRAN:

And you stayed there to prepare dinner?

# 38 MS. GUARIN:

Yes.

# 39 MR. COCHRAN:

And did he have a guest there that night?

# 40 MS. GUARIN:

Yes.

# 41 MR. COCHRAN:

Who was that guest?

# 42 MS. GUARIN:

Paula.

# 43 MR. COCHRAN:

Paula Barbieri?

# 44 MS. GUARIN:

Yes. Paula Barbieri.

# 45 MR. COCHRAN:

Did they have dinner that night?

# 46 MS. GUARIN:

Yes.

# 47 MR. COCHRAN:

Were they still there together when you left?

# 48 MS. GUARIN:

Paula need to leave because she is going to attend like prayer meeting, something like that.

KEY QUOTE

# 49 MR. COCHRAN:

What kind of meeting?

# 50 MS. GUARIN:

Prayer meeting.

# 51 MR. COCHRAN:

Prayer?

# 52 MS. GUARIN:

Yes.

# 53 MR. COCHRAN:

Prayer like--like in--like as in prayer?

# 54 MS. GUARIN:

Yes.

# 55 MR. COCHRAN:

Okay. She was leaving for a prayer meeting?

# 56 MS. GUARIN:

Yes.

# 57 THE COURT:

We have an interpreter in the jury here. Proceed.

# 58 MR. COCHRAN:

Thank you. Is that so? Excuse me, your Honor.

# 59 MR. COCHRAN:

What time did Paula leave for this prayer meeting?

# 60 MS. GUARIN:

Before I--

# 61 MR. DARDEN:

Objection.

# 62 MR. COCHRAN:

What time did Paula leave for the prayer meeting?

# 63 THE COURT:

It's irrelevant, really.

# 64 MR. COCHRAN:

No. I want to know from the standpoint of sequence, your Honor.

# 65 THE COURT:

All right. What time did she leave, if you know?

# 66 MS. GUARIN:

Before I left that night.

# 67 MR. COCHRAN:

So you left at 9:30 and Paula had left for the prayer meeting before that.

# 68 MS. GUARIN:

Yes.

# 69 MR. COCHRAN:

Is that right?

# 70 MS. GUARIN:

Yes. After dinner.

# 71 MR. COCHRAN:

Okay. Now, with regard to--you have a room in the premises there. Your room is downstairs; is that correct?

# 72 MR. DARDEN:

Objection. This exceeds the scope.

# 73 MR. COCHRAN:

Well, I--just one or two questions just in this area.

# 74 THE COURT:

Overruled.

# 75 MR. COCHRAN:

Thank you.

# 76 MR. COCHRAN:

Your room is downstairs, correct?

# 77 MS. GUARIN:

Yes.

# 78 MR. COCHRAN:

Now, Miss Guarin, is there a door to the side of the house right near your room?

# 79 MS. GUARIN:

Yes. In-between the laundry room and my room.

# 80 MR. COCHRAN:

And is there--can you come in on that side of the house if you have a key and get in that door?

# 81 MS. GUARIN:

Yes.

# 82 MR. COCHRAN:

And what kind of key is needed to get in that door?

# 83 MS. GUARIN:

Master key.

# 84 MR. COCHRAN:

And how many master keys were there in June of 1994?

# 85 MS. GUARIN:

There's only two.

# 86 MR. COCHRAN:

And who had those master keys?

# 87 MS. GUARIN:

I have one and Mr. Simpson have one.

# 88 MR. COCHRAN:

And if you had a master key, you could come inside that door; is that right?

# 89 MS. GUARIN:

Yes.

# 90 MR. COCHRAN:

Did you ever have occasion to talk with Westec at all when you were going to be off and Mr. Simpson would be out of town?

# 91 MS. GUARIN:

No, I didn't. I--

# 92 MR. DARDEN:

Objection. Exceeds the scope.

# 93 THE COURT:

It does. Sustained.

# 94 MR. COCHRAN:

Thank you, your Honor. I think that's all I have at this point. Thank you very much.

# 95 THE COURT:

Anything else, Mr. Darden?

# 96 MR. DARDEN:

One second.

Temperature

procedural

Key Quotes (3)

Josephine Guarin

There's only two.

Establishes that only Guarin and Simpson had master keys to the side entrance, potentially relevant to who could access the property undetected.

Josephine Guarin

Paula need to leave because she is going to attend like prayer meeting, something like that.

Places Paula Barbieri leaving Rockingham before 9:30 PM on June 10, establishing Simpson's movements and company the night before the murders.

Josephine Guarin

I mop it maybe around Tuesday or Wednesday.

Establishes that the foyer had not been mopped since mid-week, relevant to the condition of the area where evidence was later found.

Evidence (3)

Informal

Field interrogation card shown to Guarin by Darden on cross-examination

discussed

Informal

Clothes and panties in hamper near washing machine

discussed — attributed to Arnelle and Kato, not Simpson

Informal

Foyer of Rockingham residence

discussed — last mopped Tuesday or Wednesday before June 10

Notable Exchanges (2)

Johnnie Cochran•Josephine Guarin•Lance A. Ito

Cochran repeatedly asked Guarin to clarify 'prayer meeting,' prompting Judge Ito to note there was an interpreter in the jury box and to proceed — a subtle correction of Cochran's redundant questioning.

light

Johnnie Cochran•Christopher Darden

Darden objected that questioning about the side-entrance door and master keys exceeded the scope of cross; Ito overruled and allowed it, opening the door to testimony about limited key access.

strategic

Light Moments (1)

Johnnie Cochran

Cochran asked 'Prayer like--like in--like as in prayer?' multiple times before accepting the witness's answer, prompting Ito to note the interpreter's presence and move things along.

Credibility Attacks (1)

⚔ Josephine Guarin

rehabilitation after cross

Cochran reestablished that Guarin answered only what officers asked on the field interrogation card, implying the card's omissions were not deceptive but simply responsive to the questions posed.

Objections

6 objections (2 sustained, 2 overruled)

Proceeding 6961 • 96 utterances • Defense witness

Criminal Trial

Department 103