📄 Objection ruling and scheduling — Tuesday, July 18, 1995
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Objection ruling and scheduling

Date: Tuesday, July 18, 1995 • Utterances: 30
Judge Ito rules on a 352 objection, limiting testimony from Officer Don Thompson to a single question about whether he disagreed with the decision to detain Simpson. The remainder of the proceeding is scheduling logistics: rescheduling a sanctions motion (originally set for 1:00 PM) to 5:00 PM, prompted by a dispute over late discovery of defense blood spatter expert Herbert MacDonell's report.
1 (The following proceedings were held in open court, out of the presence of the jury:)
2 THE COURT:

All right. Back on the record in the Simpson matter. All parties are again present. All right. Counsel, I'm going to sustain the 352 objection to going into the facts and circumstances that would have led Officer Don Thompson to arrest Mr. Simpson, were that his independent determination. I will allow one question of Officer Thompson; did he disagree with the direction to detain Mr. Simpson and place him in handcuffs at that time. That's the only question I'll allow in that vein. All right. Let's have the jury, please. And, Mr. Cochran and Mr. Darden, I want to see both of you in my chambers when we conclude this afternoon.

3 MR. COCHRAN:

Certainly.

4 THE COURT:

And that will be with the court reporter.

5 MR. UELMEN:

Did your Honor want to reschedule the sanctions motion that was scheduled for 1:00 clock?

6 THE COURT:

You know, I completely forgot about that.

7 MS. CLARK:

Well, your Honor, can I address that for a moment with regards to timing just?

8 THE COURT:

Timing? I'm sorry. I forgot we had Mr. Uelmen down from Stanford.

9 MS. CLARK:

I kind of thought he might have been here to examine Mr. Meraz or else I would have said something to him earlier. And I apologize. So I didn't know. With respect to that, your Honor, and I do apologize to counsel, but we were going to ask that we take this up on Friday if that's all right with the Court. I do not know what other plans there are, but this motion has became much bigger than I thought.

10 THE COURT:

All right. Mr. Neufeld, you had a--you seem to have a reaction to Friday?

11 MR. NEUFELD:

I do have a slight reaction. Good afternoon, your Honor.

12 THE COURT:

Good afternoon, sir.

13 MR. NEUFELD:

It's simply that, as I think Mr. Douglas has told you before, it was our intention to put Professor Herbert MacDonell on the witness stand tomorrow. The discovery is now complete, and he is here in Los Angeles and we intended to have him testify tomorrow, and I think that was the reason why you originally scheduled the sanction motion for 1:00 o'clock this afternoon.

14 MS. CLARK:

May I be heard to that?

15 THE COURT:

Yes.

16 MR. NEUFELD:

I just want to day that, so if you want to do it at 5:00 or 5:30 or whatever, that's acceptable as well.

17 MS. CLARK:

The problem with that, your Honor, is that we had no opportunity to evaluate the legal issues raised by the late discovery dropped on us by Defense counsel. There was apparently an examination conducted back in April. The report of that examination was given to us just a few days ago. I can't think of any legal or--excuse me. I can't think of any forensic or scientific reason why you would want to delay a report for three months.

18 THE COURT:

Well, let's not argue that issue.

19 MS. CLARK:

Right.

20 THE COURT:

Just of curiosity, who is Dr. McDonnell.

21 MS. CLARK:

Mr. MacDonell--I don't know that he's doctor--is blood spatter, their blood spatter expert.

22 THE COURT:

Okay.

23 MS. CLARK:

And the reason that we--we had to evaluate the reports that he submitted, and when we determined that the reports--

24 THE COURT:

No. I just want to know what he's going to testify to. All right. We'll take it up at 5:00.

25 MS. CLARK:

Well, your Honor, the problem is that we have briefs to file on this. It goes to not just discovery sanctions, but goes to preclusion of the testimony completely because it's irrelevant under 352. These are substantial legal arguments. It's not a discovery issue, just a discovery issue. That's the tip of the iceberg. There's much more to this.

26 THE COURT:

Why don't we take it up at 5:00.

27 MS. CLARK:

We have briefs to give to the Court. They will be ready in half an hour, but I thought that the Court might want more time than that.

28 THE COURT:

Well, let's see how far we get.

29 MS. CLARK:

All right.

30 THE COURT:

All right. Let's have the jurors, please. Do you have Officer Thompson available somewhere?

Temperature

procedural

Key Quotes (3)

Lance A. Ito
I will allow one question of Officer Thompson; did he disagree with the direction to detain Mr. Simpson and place him in handcuffs at that time. That's the only question I'll allow in that vein.
Narrows the scope of Thompson's testimony, blocking the prosecution from getting into the full circumstances that would have led to Simpson's arrest.
Marcia Clark
I can't think of any forensic or scientific reason why you would want to delay a report for three months.
Clark argues the defense sat on MacDonell's examination report from April, raising a bad-faith discovery argument.
Marcia Clark
It goes to not just discovery sanctions, but goes to preclusion of the testimony completely because it's irrelevant under 352. These are substantial legal arguments. It's not a discovery issue, just a discovery issue. That's the tip of the iceberg.
Signals prosecution intends to challenge MacDonell's testimony on multiple fronts, not just as a discovery sanction.

Notable Exchanges (2)

Peter NeufeldMarcia ClarkLance A. Ito
Dispute over scheduling the sanctions motion; Neufeld wants MacDonell to testify tomorrow and pushes for a 5:00 or 5:30 hearing, while Clark argues she needs time to file briefs on both discovery sanctions and preclusion under 352.
strategic
Lance A. ItoGerald Uelmen
Ito admits he forgot about the 1:00 PM sanctions motion entirely, and notes Uelmen came down from Stanford.
light

Light Moments (2)

Lance A. Ito
Ito admits he completely forgot about the sanctions motion that was scheduled for 1:00 PM.
Lance A. Ito
Ito asks 'Just of curiosity, who is Dr. McDonnell' — mispronouncing and not knowing the defense's own blood spatter expert.

Objections

1 objections (1 sustained, 0 overruled)
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