Redirect examination of Jack McKay (part 1)

📄 Redirect examination of Jack McKay (part 1) — Tuesday, July 11, 1995

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◀ Cross-examination of Jack McKay Recross-examination of Jack McKay (part 1) ▶

Witness: Jack McKay
Examiner: Johnnie Cochran
Called by: Defense • Date: Tuesday, July 11, 1995 • Utterances: 57

Cochran conducted a brief redirect of Jack McKay, a financial officer who flew from Alexandria, Virginia under subpoena to testify about seeing OJ Simpson on June 8th, 1994. Cochran rehabilitated McKay after cross-examination by confirming Simpson's friendly, jovial mood when he left for Dulles airport that day, and by establishing that McKay's prior contacts with the defense were limited and responsive rather than coached.

# 1 THE COURT:

Mr. Cochran.

REDIRECT EXAMINATION BY MR. COCHRAN

# 2 MR. COCHRAN:

Mr. McKay, sir, you have flown out here to testify today for this jury; is that correct?

# 3 MR. MCKAY:

Yes.

# 4 MR. COCHRAN:

Where do you live, sir?

# 5 MS. CLARK:

Objection, irrelevant.

# 6 THE COURT:

Overruled.

# 7 MR. COCHRAN:

Where do you live, sir?

# 8 MR. MCKAY:

Alexandria, Virginia.

# 9 MR. COCHRAN:

You flew out pursuant to subpoena to testify; is that correct?

# 10 MR. MCKAY:

Yes.

# 11 MR. COCHRAN:

And you spoke briefly with Mr. Bailey sometime about a month ago; is that correct?

# 12 MR. MCKAY:

Very briefly.

# 13 MR. COCHRAN:

All right. Was that a phone conversation?

# 14 MR. MCKAY:

Yes, it was.

# 15 MR. COCHRAN:

All right. And then thereafter you spoke to a lawyer from my office in Washington D.C., did you not?

# 16 MR. MCKAY:

That's correct.

# 17 MR. COCHRAN:

Do you remember the name my partner, Ralph Lotkin?

# 18 MR. MCKAY:

Lotkin, that is the one.

# 19 MR. COCHRAN:

You talked to him for about thirty minutes on the phone; is that correct?

# 20 MR. MCKAY:

Yes.

# 21 MR. COCHRAN:

You responded to his questions?

# 22 MS. CLARK:

All leading.

# 23 MR. COCHRAN:

Restate it.

# 24 MR. COCHRAN:

How did the conversation go with Mr. Lotkin? Did you tell him stuff or did he ask you questions or what?

# 25 MR. MCKAY:

He simply asked questions and I answered the questions that he asked.

KEY QUOTE

# 26 MR. COCHRAN:

All right. And that was all that happened; is that right?

# 27 MR. MCKAY:

That was all.

# 28 MR. COCHRAN:

Now, with regard to Dr. Lenore Walker, was she in your office sometime during the early part of 1995?

# 29 MR. MCKAY:

Yes.

# 30 MR. COCHRAN:

And do you know what month that was?

# 31 MR. MCKAY:

I believe it was February.

# 32 MR. COCHRAN:

All right. February of `95. And is she a member of the organization of which you are the chief financial officer?

# 33 MR. MCKAY:

Yes, she is.

# 34 MR. COCHRAN:

And at that time when she was in your office did she have occasion to see one of these pictures that we have here, the pictures of Mr. Simpson and your golfing group?

# 35 MR. MCKAY:

Yes, she did.

# 36 MR. COCHRAN:

Did you have a brief conversation at that point?

# 37 MR. MCKAY:

Yes.

# 38 MR. COCHRAN:

All right. Now, with regard to the dates involved, you saw Mr. Simpson only on June 8th; isn't that correct?

# 39 MR. MCKAY:

That's correct.

# 40 MR. COCHRAN:

You didn't see Mr. Simpson on the 9th or the 10th or the 11th, did you?

# 41 MR. MCKAY:

No, sir.

# 42 MR. COCHRAN:

Neither did you see him on the 5th, 6th or 7th, did you?

# 43 MR. MCKAY:

No, sir.

# 44 MR. COCHRAN:

You came and you told us about the date you saw him on June 8th; is that correct?

# 45 MR. MCKAY:

That's correct.

# 46 MS. CLARK:

Objection, leading.

# 47 THE COURT:

Overruled.

# 48 MR. COCHRAN:

And when Mr. Simpson left you on June 8th to go to Dulles airport, how was his mood at that time?

# 49 MR. MCKAY:

It was the same that it had been the entire day.

# 50 MR. COCHRAN:

And what was that mood?

# 51 MR. MCKAY:

It was a very friendly cordial, handshaking, telling jokes, kind of behavior.

KEY QUOTE

# 52 MR. COCHRAN:

And with regard to other celebrities, you were asked a question about celebrities always trying to be nice. Have you played with celebrities who weren't nice?

# 53 MR. MCKAY:

Yes.

# 54 MR. COCHRAN:

And you didn't enjoy their presence?

# 55 MR. MCKAY:

Not particularly.

# 56 MR. COCHRAN:

Thank you very kindly. Thank you very much for coming today, too.

# 57 MR. MCKAY:

Thank you.

Temperature

procedural

Key Quotes (3)

Jack McKay

It was a very friendly cordial, handshaking, telling jokes, kind of behavior.

McKay's description of Simpson's mood on June 8th — four days before the murders — supports the defense narrative that Simpson was not in a volatile or agitated state.

Jack McKay

He simply asked questions and I answered the questions that he asked.

Defuses any implication from cross that McKay was coached or directed by the defense team.

Jack McKay

Yes.

Confirms he came under subpoena from Virginia, lending independence and credibility to his testimony.

Evidence (1)

Informal

Photos of OJ Simpson with the golfing group, one of which Dr. Lenore Walker saw in McKay's office in February 1995

discussed

Notable Exchanges (2)

Johnnie Cochran•Jack McKay

Cochran walked McKay through his limited pre-trial contact with the defense — a brief call with F. Lee Bailey and a 30-minute Q&A with partner Ralph Lotkin — to neutralize any coaching insinuation from cross.

strategic

Johnnie Cochran•Jack McKay

Cochran elicited that McKay has played golf with unpleasant celebrities before, implying his positive assessment of Simpson was genuine and not reflexive deference.

strategic

Objections

3 objections (0 sustained, 2 overruled)

Proceeding 6722 • 57 utterances • Defense witness

Criminal Trial

Department 103