Detective Lange continues his direct examination covering the coroner's removal of the bodies, the discovery of a white metal ring beneath Goldman's body, and a detailed account of the poor lighting conditions at the crime scene. He then describes leaving the scene, executing a search warrant at Rockingham, and recovering a pair of Reebok shoes that OJ Simpson himself pointed out as what he 'might have had on' the night before — shoes Lange then kept overnight in his car trunk because the evidence control unit was closed.
# 1 THE COURT: THANK YOU, COUNSEL.
# 2 MS. CLARK: THANK YOU, YOUR HONOR.
# 3 Q: BY MS. CLARK: DID MISS RATCLIFFE MAKE AN INQUIRY OF YOU, SIR?
# 5 Q: DID SHE ASK YOU SOMETHING?
# 7 Q: AND IN RESPONSE, WHAT DID YOU DO?
# 8 A: I ALLOWED HER TO COME DOWN TO THE BODY ITSELF AND BEGIN HER EXAMINATION.
# 9 Q: AND WHAT DID SHE DO?
# 10 A: SHE BEGAN THE EXAMINATION BY PLACING THE VICTIM ON A PLASTIC SHEET.
# 11 Q: AND DID SHE DO THAT BY HERSELF OR DID SHE HAVE SOME HELP?
# 12 A: NO. SHE HAD AN ASSISTANT.
# 15 Q: AND THEN WHAT HAPPENED?
# 16 A: WE CAUSED -- I CAUSED PHOTOGRAPHS TO BE TAKEN, CLOSE-UP PHOTOGRAPHS DURING HER EXAMINATION.
# 17 Q: AT THE SCENE THERE?
# 19 Q: AND THOSE PHOTOGRAPHS THAT YOU DIRECTED BE TAKEN, WHAT WERE THEY OF?
# 20 A: THEY WERE OF THE DECEASED.
# 23 Q: AND WERE THOSE PHOTOGRAPHS TAKEN OF MISS BROWN DURING MISS RATCLIFFE'S EXAMINATION OF HER?
# 25 Q: BEFORE MISS RATCLIFFE WENT DOWN TO THE CRIME SCENE AND MOVED THE BODY OF NICOLE BROWN, HAD THE VICTIMS AND ALL OF THE EVIDENCE AROUND THEM BEEN PHOTOGRAPHED IN PLACE AS THEY WERE FOUND?
# 27 Q: AND AFTER THE PHOTOGRAPHS OF NICOLE BROWN WAS TAKEN DURING THE EXAMINATION BY MISS RATCLIFFE, WHAT HAPPENED NEXT?
# 28 A: THE VICTIM WAS REMOVED TO THE CORONER'S WAGON, AND SUBSEQUENT TO THAT, THERE WAS A LIVER TEMPERATURE TAKEN IN THE VAN I BELIEVE.
# 29 Q: MISS BROWN'S LIVER TEMPERATURE WAS TAKEN INSIDE THE VAN?
# 30 A: I BELIEVE IT WAS, YES.
# 31 Q: AND THEN WHAT HAPPENED?
# 32 A: RATCLIFFE AND THE DRIVER RETURNED AND BEGAN EXAMINATION OF MR. GOLDMAN.
# 33 Q: AND HOW WAS THAT ACCOMPLISHED, SIR?
# 34 A: INITIALLY, MR. GOLDMAN HAD TO BE LIFTED UP OUT OF HIS POSITION BECAUSE OF THE CONFINED AREA AND BROUGHT OUT ONTO THE WALKWAY, AND HE WAS PLACED ON A PLASTIC SHEET AND EXAMINED.
# 35 Q: AND WHERE WAS THAT DONE? WHERE WAS THAT PLASTIC SHEET PLACED?
# 36 A: ON THE WALKWAY IN FRONT OF THE RESIDENCE.
# 37 Q: THE WALKWAY THAT LEADS FROM THE SIDEWALK UP TO THE FRONT STEP?
# 39 Q: AND WHERE ON THE WALKWAY -- WHERE ON THAT WALKWAY? DOWN BY THE SIDEWALK? UP BY THE STAIRS?
# 40 A: IT WAS IN THE VICINITY OF THE FRONT GATE.
# 41 Q: AND WHAT OCCURRED NEXT?
# 42 A: RATCLIFFE EXAMINED MR. GOLDMAN ON THAT SHEET AND THERE WERE PHOTOGRAPHS TAKEN OF VARIOUS THINGS THAT SHE FOUND.
# 43 (DISCUSSION HELD OFF THE RECORD BETWEEN THE DEPUTY DISTRICT ATTORNEYS.) # 44 MS. CLARK: CUT THE FEED, YOUR HONOR.
# 45 MR. FAIRTLOUGH: PEOPLE'S EXHIBIT 59.
# 46 Q: BY MS. CLARK: ALL RIGHT. SO MISS RATCLIFFE AND THE DRIVER, THEY HAD TO LIFT HIM OUT OF THAT AREA?
# 48 Q: AND THEN THEY BROUGHT HIM -- I THINK -- DID YOU INDICATE SOUTH OF WHERE HE IS NOW IN THAT PHOTOGRAPH?
# 49 A: YES. SOUTH AND THEN TO THE EAST DOWN ON THE WALKWAY.
# 50 Q: SO THEY HAD -- SO WERE BOTH OF THEM BACK IN THAT AREA WHERE MR. GOLDMAN IS?
# 52 Q: AND WHEN THEY MOVED HIS BODY OUT OF THAT AREA, THEY MOVED RIGHT OVER THAT DIRT AND ONTO THE WALKWAY?
# 54 Q: IN THE AREA OF THAT ENVELOPE, THE HAT AND THE GLOVE?
# 56 (DISCUSSION HELD OFF THE RECORD BETWEEN THE DEPUTY DISTRICT ATTORNEYS.) # 57 Q: BY MS. CLARK: AND WHAT OCCURRED NEXT WITH MR. GOLDMAN? WAS THERE AN EXAMINATION PERFORMED?
# 58 A: YES. THERE WAS ALSO A LIVER TEMPERATURE TAKEN OF HIM.
# 60 A: MR. GOLDMAN WAS WRAPPED UP AND REMOVED FROM THE SCENE IN THE CORONER'S WAGON.
# 61 Q: ALL RIGHT. NOW, AFTER THE BODY OF RON GOLDMAN WAS REMOVED, DID YOU OBSERVE -- MAKE ANY OBSERVATIONS OF SOMETHING THAT YOU HAD NOT MADE BEFORE?
# 63 Q: AND WHAT WAS THAT?
# 64 A: OBSERVED A WHITE METAL RING IN THE DIRT IN THE AREA BELOW MR. GOLDMAN, WHERE HE HAD BEEN.
# 65 MR. FAIRTLOUGH: PEOPLE'S EXHIBIT 56-C.
# 66 Q: BY MS. CLARK: DO YOU SEE WHAT'S IN PEOPLE'S 56-K?
# 67 A: YES. THAT APPEARS TO BE THE RING.
# 68 (DISCUSSION HELD OFF THE RECORD BETWEEN THE DEPUTY DISTRICT ATTORNEYS.) # 69 MR. FAIRTLOUGH: PEOPLE'S EXHIBIT 81, YOUR HONOR.
# 72 Q: BY MS. CLARK: ARE YOU ABLE TO LOCATE IN THIS PHOTOGRAPH, SIR, WHERE THE RING WAS AFTER MR. GOLDMAN'S BODY WAS REMOVED?
# 73 A: YES. THE RING WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY THE CENTER OF THE PHOTOGRAPH WHERE THE LITTLE CARD IS INDICATED, THE CENTER CARD.
# 74 Q: CAN YOU DIRECT THE POINTER TO THAT AREA, SIR?
# 75 A: I BELIEVE WOULD BE DOWN THERE, THIS CARD RIGHT THERE (INDICATING).
# 77 MS. CLARK: CAN YOU PUT THE INITIALS ON THERE? AND MAY THIS BE MARKED PEOPLE'S 81-B?
# 79 (PEO'S 81-B FOR ID = PHOTOGRAPH) # 80 Q: BY MS. CLARK: ALL RIGHT. NOW, AFTER THE BODIES OF RON GOLDMAN AND NICOLE BROWN WERE REMOVED, DID YOU CONTINUE YOUR CRIME SCENE INVESTIGATION?
# 82 Q: AT SOME POINT, DID CRIMINALIST DENNIS FUNG ARRIVE AT THE SCENE?
# 84 Q: AND WHEN WAS THAT?
# 85 A: I BELIEVE THAT WAS SHORTLY AFTER 10:00 A.M.
# 86 Q: WHEN HE ARRIVED, WHAT DID YOU DO?
# 87 A: I TOOK MR. FUNG ON A WALK-THROUGH OF THE CRIME SCENE.
# 88 Q: AND WHERE DID YOU TAKE HIM EXACTLY?
# 89 A: STARTED AT THE FRONT OF THE LOCATION AND I SHOWED HIM THE EVIDENCE THAT WAS THERE, POINTED OUT THE VARIOUS PIECES OF EVIDENCE, THE BLOOD. HE HAD ARRIVED JUST PRIOR TO THE DEPARTURE OR JUST PRIOR TO THE REMOVAL OF THE BODIES. CONSEQUENTLY, HE SAW WHERE THE BODIES WERE FROM THE TOP STEP AREA ABOVE THE VICTIMS. I SHOWED HIM WHAT APPEARED TO BE THE BLOODY SHOEPRINTS LEADING UP THE STEPS WESTERLY, POINTED OUT TO HIM THE BLOOD -- WHAT APPEARED TO BE BLOOD DROPLETS. WE WALKED THROUGH THE REAR GATE, POINTED OUT THE BLOOD ON THE GATE. WE WALKED TO THE REAR OF THE LOCATION WHERE I POINTED OUT A FIFTH BLOOD DROPLET IN THE DRIVEWAY AND THERE WERE SOME COINS AND A COUPLE OF OTHER OBJECTS IN THE REAR. AT SOME POINT, WE ALSO ENTERED THE LOCATION WHERE I HAD SOME -- HAD HIM DO SOME TESTING.
# 90 Q: NOW, DID YOU POINT OUT THEN ALL THE EVIDENCE TO HIM THAT YOU PREVIOUSLY DESCRIBED TO US TODAY?
# 94 Q: AND DID YOU DIRECT HIS ATTENTION TO THE KNIFE ON THE KITCHEN COUNTER?
# 96 Q: AND DID YOU ASK HIM TO DO SOMETHING WITH THAT KNIFE, SIR?
# 97 A: YES. I ASKED HIM TO DO A VISUAL EXAMINATION, AND IF HE OBSERVED ANYTHING THAT APPEARED TO BE BLOOD, TO DO A PHENOL OR PRESUMPTIVE TEST.
# 98 Q: DID YOU ASK HIM TO DO ANYTHING ELSE IN THE HOUSE WITH RESPECT TO THE DETECTION OF BLOOD?
# 100 Q: AND WHAT WAS THAT?
# 101 A: TO CHECK SOME REDDISH STAINS ON THE CARPET OF THE STAIRCASE GOING UP IN THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE AS WELL AS SOME REDDISH STAINISH -- RED STAINS ON THE THROW RUG IN THE BATHROOM UPSTAIRS.
# 102 Q: DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE RESULTS OF THAT EXAMINATIONS WERE -- OF THOSE EXAMINATIONS WERE?
# 103 MR. COCHRAN: HE CAN ONLY ANSWER IF HE KNOWS, YOUR HONOR.
# 104 THE COURT: CORRECT. DO YOU KNOW?
# 105 DET. TOM LANGE: YES. THEY WERE NEGATIVE.
# 106 Q: BY MS. CLARK: NOW, AT SOME POINT, WHEN YOU WERE EXAMINING THE EXTERIOR CRIME SCENE, SIR, DO YOU RECALL GOING OUT -- AFTER THE BODIES OF THE VICTIMS WERE REMOVED, DO YOU RECALL GOING OUT TO THE DIRT AREA WHERE THE BODY OF RON GOLDMAN WAS FOUND?
# 108 Q: AND DID -- DO YOU RECALL OBSERVING THE PAGER AFTER THE BODY WAS REMOVED?
# 110 Q: DID YOU MAKE ANY EXAMINATION OF IT AT THAT TIME?
# 112 Q: AND WHAT HAPPENED WITH THAT?
# 113 MR. COCHRAN: YOUR HONOR, I THOUGHT WE COVERED THE PAGER.
# 114 THE COURT: NO. WE JUST RECOVERED IT. THAT'S ALL WE'VE DONE SO FAR.
# 115 MS. CLARK: ACTUALLY NOT EVEN THAT. I THINK HE JUST OBSERVED IT SO FAR.
# 116 THE COURT: ALL RIGHT.
# 117 DET. TOM LANGE: WHILE AT THAT LOCATION, THE PAGER ACTIVATED.
# 118 Q: BY MS. CLARK: THE PAGER WENT OFF?
# 120 Q: AND WHAT NUMBER WAS SHOWN?
# 121 A: I HAVEN'T COMMITTED THE NUMBER TO MEMORY, BUT I DID WRITE IT DOWN AT THAT TIME.
# 122 Q: AND WOULD IT REFRESH YOUR MEMORY IF YOU WERE TO LOOK AT SOME REPORT, SIR?
# 124 Q: WHAT REPORT WAS THAT?
# 125 A: WELL, MY CRIME SCENE NOTES.
# 126 Q: DO YOU HAVE THEM WITH YOU?
# 127 A: THEY'RE IN MY ATTACHE CASE.
# 128 THE COURT: I THINK THAT'S A CATALOG CASE.
# 129 MS. CLARK: FEELS LIKE THERE'S -- PRETTY HEAVY.
# 130 DET. TOM LANGE: THIS IS EMBARRASSING. WRONG BOOK. I HAVE IT.
# 131 Q: BY MS. CLARK: YOU HAVE THEM?
# 133 Q: OKAY. AND WHAT -- YOU ARE ABLE TO REFRESH YOUR REMEDY FROM THAT, SIR, AS TO THE NUMBER OF THE PAGER THAT WENT OFF?
# 135 THE COURT: DETECTIVE LANGE, WHY DON'T YOU PULL THE MICROPHONE BACK.
# 136 DET. TOM LANGE: YES.
# 137 Q: BY MS. CLARK: AND WHAT NUMBER WAS THAT, SIR?
# 139 Q: AND DID YOU DETERMINE WHO THAT NUMBER BELONGED TO?
# 142 A: THE MEZZALUNA RESTAURANT.
# 143 Q: WHAT TIME WAS IT WHEN THE PAGER WENT OFF?
# 145 Q: DID YOU DETERMINE WHO IT WAS THAT PAGED RON GOLDMAN AT 10:47 A.M. FROM THE MEZZALUNA?
# 148 A: IT WAS AN EMPLOYEE AT THE LOCATION. I BELIEVE HIS NAME WAS TANNER.
# 151 Q: WERE THERE ANY OTHER NUMBERS ON THAT PAGER?
# 153 Q: AT WHAT POINT, SIR, DID THE CORONER LEAVE THE SCENE?
# 154 A: I BELIEVE IT WAS SOMETIME AFTER 11:00 A.M.
# 155 Q: DID YOU MAKE A DETERMINATION, SIR, AS TO HOW THE FRONT GATE OF THAT -- OF 875 SOUTH BUNDY OPERATED?
# 157 Q: AND WHAT WAS THAT? WHAT'S THE SYSTEM THERE?
# 158 A: THE GATE COULD NOT BE OPENED FROM THE OUTSIDE WITHOUT A KEY. THE INSIDE KNOB WAS SMOOTH WITH A HANDLE GUARD DISALLOWING ANYONE FROM REACHING THROUGH AND OPENING IT. THERE WAS AN OUTSIDE LATCH ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE GATE THAT HAD TO BE FLIPPED UP IN ORDER FOR THE GATE TO OPEN ALL THE WAY.
# 159 Q: DID YOU DETERMINE WHETHER THERE WAS SOME MEANS OF COMMUNICATION BETWEEN SOME PERSON AT THE FRONT GATE AND SOMEONE INSIDE THE HOUSE?
# 160 A: YES. THERE WAS AN INTERCOM BOX WITH A BUTTON.
# 161 Q: DID YOU ATTEMPT TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THAT WORKED?
# 163 Q: AND WHAT DID YOU FIND OUT?
# 164 A: THAT IT WAS OPERABLE.
# 165 Q: THE INTERCOM WORKED?
# 166 A: THE INTERCOM WORKED.
# 167 Q: WHAT ABOUT THE DOOR RELEASE?
# 168 A: I OBSERVED THE -- WHAT APPEARED TO BE THE DOOR RELEASE IN THE KITCHEN AND I COULD NOT GET IT TO WORK. IT WAS INOPERABLE AT THAT TIME.
# 169 MR. COCHRAN: NO FOUNDATION, YOUR HONOR. COULD WE HAVE FOUNDATION WHEN THAT WAS?
# 170 Q: BY MS. CLARK: WAS THIS ON JUNE THE 13TH, SIR?
# 172 Q: SO WHEN YOU PRESSED THE DOOR RELEASE BUTTON IN THE KITCHEN, IT DID NOT IN FACT UNLOCK THE FRONT GATE?
# 173 A: I HEARD IT CLICK, BUT IT WOULD NOT RELEASE. SO APPEARED TO BE INOPERABLE TO ME.
# 174 Q: BUT DID YOU CHECK TO DETERMINE WHETHER YOU COULD MANUALLY OPEN THE FRONT GATE IF IT WAS CLOSED?
# 175 A: FROM THE OUTSIDE?
# 177 A: NOT IF IT WERE LOCKED.
# 178 Q: OKAY. COULD YOU OPEN IT FROM THE INSIDE?
# 179 A: YES. IF ONE WERE TO, IN ADDITION TO TURNING THE KNOB, REACH OVER TO THE FRONT AND RELEASE THE LATCH THAT WAS ON THE OUTSIDE.
# 180 Q: NOW, WHEN ON THE 13TH DID YOU PERFORM THAT EXPERIMENT ON THE DOOR, THE INTERCOM AND THE DOOR RELEASE?
# 181 A: IT WAS SOMETIME AFTER THE CORONER LEFT.
# 182 Q: DID YOU ATTEMPT TO EXAMINE THE LIGHTING IN THE AREA, SIR?
# 184 Q: AND WHAT DID YOU FIND OUT?
# 185 A: THERE WAS A STREET LAMP IN THE PARKWAY TO THE NORTHEAST OF THE WALKWAY OF THE LOCATION WITH AN OVERHANGING LAMP. THERE WAS AN ADDITIONAL STREET LAMP AND OVERHANGING LAMP I BELIEVE ON THE -- I BELIEVE IT WAS THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF BUNDY AND DOROTHY.
# 186 Q: OKAY. LET ME ASK YOU FIRST OF ALL, WITH RESPECT TO THE OVERHANGING STREET LAMP THAT YOU SAID WAS NORTHEAST OF THE WALKWAY ON THE SIDEWALK, SIR, HOW MUCH ILLUMINATION WAS PROVIDED OF THE WALKWAY, THAT FRONT WALKWAY AREA FROM THAT STREET LAMP?
# 187 A: I WOULD SAY NONE.
# 188 Q: AND WHY IS THAT?
# 189 A: BECAUSE OF THE HEAVY FOLIAGE AND THE TREES AND THE HEDGE TO THE NORTH OF THE WALKWAY.
# 190 Q: AND WHAT ABOUT THE OVERHANGING STREET LAMP THAT WAS AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF DOROTHY AND BUNDY? HOW MUCH ILLUMINATION WAS PROVIDED OF THE FRONT WALKWAY AREA, ESPECIALLY AT THE FOOT OF THE FRONT STEPS?
# 191 A: I WOULD SAY VERY LITTLE IF ANY.
# 192 Q: WHAT KIND OF LIGHTING DID YOU FIND AT THE EXTERIOR OF THE RESIDENCE ITSELF?
# 193 A: THERE WAS A SMALL LIGHT THAT WAS IN THE DIRT AREA JUST OFF THE WALKWAY JUST TO THE SOUTH OF THE STATIONARY GATE, A LOW ILLUMINATION OR LESS THAT WAS -- THAT SHOT STRAIGHT UP. IT WASN'T CONCENTRATED DOWN WITH THE LIGHT GOING UP.
# 194 Q: SET INTO THE GROUND, WAS IT?
# 196 Q: WERE THERE ANY PLANTS AROUND IT?
# 198 Q: HOW MUCH LIGHT DID IT AFFORD IN TERMS OF THE AREA WHERE NICOLE BROWN HAD BEEN LAYING?
# 199 A: BECAUSE OF THE WAY IT WAS POSITIONED, THE YELLOW LIGHTING WAS UP TOWARDS THE MAILBOX AND THERE WAS NONE GOING THE OTHER WAY. IT WAS SHIELDED IN AN UPWARDS DIRECTION.
# 200 Q: UH-HUH. SO DID IT ILLUMINATE THE BODY OF NICOLE BROWN IN THE POSITION IN WHICH SHE WAS FOUND?
# 202 Q: ANY OTHER EXTERIOR LIGHTING, SIR?
# 203 A: THERE WAS A LIGHT -- THE EXTERIOR, WOULD BE THE SOUTHEAST PORTION OF THE RESIDENCE WHERE THE 875 CONDO JOINED THE CONDO TO THE SOUTH. SO IT WOULD BE -- FROM THE LOCATION OF THE BODIES, IT WOULD BE UP THE WALK AND TOWARDS THE SOUTHWEST.
# 204 (DISCUSSION HELD OFF THE RECORD BETWEEN THE DEPUTY DISTRICT ATTORNEYS.) # 205 MS. CLARK: MAY I HAVE A MOMENT?
# 206 (DISCUSSION HELD OFF THE RECORD BETWEEN THE DEPUTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY AND DEFENSE COUNSEL.) # 207 (DISCUSSION HELD OFF THE RECORD BETWEEN DEFENSE COUNSEL AND THE DEFENDANT.) # 208 Q: BY MS. CLARK: SIR, DID YOU INDICATE WHETHER OR NOT THERE WAS A LIGHT ON THE PORCH OF THE RESIDENCE OF 875 SOUTH BUNDY?
# 209 A: THERE WAS IN THE CEILING ABOVE THE DOOR.
# 210 Q: IN THE CEILING ABOVE THE DOOR?
# 212 Q: AND HOW MUCH LIGHT DID THAT PROVIDE OF THE AREA WHERE NICOLE BROWN WAS FOUND?
# 213 A: I'D SAY INDIRECTLY VERY LITTLE.
# 214 Q: AND WHY IS THAT?
# 215 A: THE BODIES WERE DOWN BELOW THE STAIRWELL AND THE -- DUE TO DISTANCE AND THE PLACEMENT OF THE LIGHT, IT'S JUST -- THE LIGHTING WAS INDIRECT AND IT JUST DIDN'T DO MUCH TO ILLUMINATE THE BODIES.
# 216 MR. FAIRTLOUGH: YOUR HONOR, MAY THIS NEXT PHOTOGRAPH BE MARKED PEOPLE'S EXHIBIT NUMBER 86?
# 218 (PEO'S 86 FOR ID = PHOTOGRAPH) # 219 Q: BY MS. CLARK: ALL RIGHT. DO YOU RECOGNIZE WHAT'S DEPICTED IN THIS PHOTOGRAPH, SIR?
# 221 Q: TO THE LEFT SIDE OF THE PHOTOGRAPH, YOU SEE AN AREA THAT HAS A GATE, AN ARCHED GATE?
# 223 Q: WHAT IS THAT -- WHOSE RESIDENCE IS THAT?
# 224 A: THAT'S THE TAYLOR RESIDENCE ADJOINING THE 875 SOUTH BUNDY LOCATION, JUST ADJOINED TO AND SOUTH OF.
# 225 Q: IS THAT THE OTHER HALF OF THE DUPLEX?
# 227 Q: AND TO THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE, IS THAT 875 SOUTH BUNDY, NICOLE BROWN'S RESIDENCE?
# 229 Q: THERE IS A LIGHT THAT SEEMS TO BE SHINING IN BETWEEN TWO OF THOSE TREES?
# 231 Q: CAN YOU TELL US WHAT THE SOURCE OF THAT IS?
# 232 A: ACTUALLY I BELIEVE THERE WOULD BE TWO LIGHTS, ONE TO THE CONDO TO THE LEFT AND ONE TO THE CONDO TO THE RIGHT.
# 233 Q: AND IS ONE OF THOSE LIGHTS YOU JUST DESCRIBED BETWEEN THE TWO CONDOMINIUMS?
# 235 Q: WAS THE FRONT OF THE RESIDENCE AS WELL LIT AS YOU SEE IT IN THIS PHOTOGRAPH WHEN YOU ARRIVED AT 4:30 A.M.?
# 236 A: THAT'S MY RECOLLECTION, YES.
# 237 Q: UH-HUH. WHAT ABOUT THE AREA BETWEEN NICOLE BROWN AND RON GOLDMAN? WITH RESPECT TO LIGHTING, SIR, WITH ALL OF THE LIGHTING THAT YOU'VE DESCRIBED, THE AREA BETWEEN THE BODIES OF RON GOLDMAN AND NICOLE BROWN, CAN YOU TELL US WHAT WAS THE LIGHTING LIKE IN THAT AREA?
# 238 A: IT WAS REALLY NOTHING TO ILLUMINATE THAT AREA.
# 239 Q: THEN CAN YOU TELL US, SIR, HOW VISIBLE WERE THE HAT AND THE GLOVE UNDERNEATH THAT PLANT IN THAT DARK AREA?
# 240 MR. COCHRAN: OBJECTION TO THE FORM OF THAT QUESTION WITHOUT FURTHER FOUNDATION. I SUPPOSE --
# 241 MS. CLARK: OBJECTION. YOUR HONOR -- CAN WE APPROACH?
# 242 MR. COCHRAN: OBJECTION TO THE FORM.
# 243 THE COURT: OVERRULED. I'LL SUSTAIN THE OBJECTION TO THE MANNER -- HOW VISIBLE WAS THE HAT. YOU MAY WANT TO ASK SOME MORE FOUNDATIONAL QUESTIONS.
# 245 Q: BY MS. CLARK: CAN YOU TELL US, SIR, FIRST OF ALL, WHEN YOU FIRST ARRIVED AT THE SCENE AT 4:30 A.M. AND YOU WENT TO LOOK AT THE -- YOU OBSERVED FROM THE TOP LANDING; DID YOU NOT?
# 247 Q: THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME YOU SAW THAT CRIME SCENE?
# 249 Q: CAN YOU DESCRIBE FOR US WHAT THE LIGHTING WAS LIKE IN THE AREA BETWEEN THE BODIES OF RON GOLDMAN AND NICOLE BROWN?
# 250 A: I WOULD DESCRIBE IT AS VERY POOR.
# 251 Q: AND WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT?
# 252 A: THERE WAS NO DIRECT LIGHTING ON THAT PARTICULAR AREA.
# 253 Q: WERE YOU ABLE TO SEE WITH YOUR NAKED EYE, WITHOUT THE ASSISTANCE OF THE FLASHLIGHT, WERE YOU ABLE TO SEE THE GLOVE AND THE CAP THAT WERE UNDER THE PLANT?
# 254 A: I BELIEVE I WAS ABLE TO DISCERN THAT THERE MIGHT BE AN OBJECT THERE, BUT NOT ENOUGH TO CLEARLY TELL WHAT IT WAS.
KEY QUOTE # 255 Q: AND AT THE TIME THAT YOU WERE LOOKING DOWN THERE, WERE YOU LOOKING SPECIFICALLY FOR THOSE ITEMS?
# 256 A: THEY WERE BEING POINTED OUT TO ME. YES.
# 257 Q: AND AS THEY WERE BEING POINTED OUT TO YOU, WAS THERE SOMEBODY TRAINING A FLASHLIGHT ON THE AREA AT THE TIME?
# 258 A: I HAD A FLASHLIGHT.
# 259 Q: AND WERE YOU TRAINING IT ON THE AREA AT THE TIME THAT THEY WERE BEING POINTED OUT TO YOU?
# 261 Q: AND EVEN SO, IT WAS HARD FOR YOU TO SEE THEM?
# 262 A: NOT ONCE I ILLUMINATED --
# 263 MR. COCHRAN: OBJECTION. THAT WAS LEADING AND SUGGESTIVE.
# 264 MS. CLARK: HE ALREADY SO TESTIFIED. I'M JUST GOING BACK INTO THAT.
# 265 MR. COCHRAN: ASKED AND ANSWERED, YOUR HONOR.
# 266 MS. CLARK: HAVE HIM DESCRIBE IT FURTHER.
# 267 THE COURT: OVERRULED. PROCEED.
# 268 DET. TOM LANGE: WITH THE AID OF THE FLASHLIGHT, I COULD TELL WHAT THEY WERE, YES.
# 269 Q: BY MS. CLARK: ALL RIGHT. DURING THIS TIME THAT YOU'RE EXAMINING THE CRIME SCENE, TAKING MEASUREMENTS, DIRECTING THE PHOTOGRAPHER, THE CRIMINALIST, THE PRINT PEOPLE, WHAT -- ARE THERE OTHER OFFICERS AT THE SCENE, SIR?
# 271 Q: WHAT ARE THEY DOING?
# 272 A: I HAD OTHER DETECTIVES DO WHAT WE CALL A CANVASS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
# 273 Q: WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
# 274 A: ONE OF THE DUTIES OF THOSE OFFICERS WAS TO GO DOOR TO DOOR TO SEE IF THERE MIGHT BE ANY WITNESSES TO WHAT OCCURRED, TO OBSERVE ANY ILLEGALLY OR VEHICLES ON THE STREET THAT APPEARED TO BE PARKED ERRATICALLY. I ALSO HAD THESE OFFICERS DO A CANVASS OF THE REAR ALLEY, WHICH INCLUDED GOING THROUGH TRASH CANS AT THE BUNDY LOCATION AS WELL AS THE NEIGHBOR'S LOCATION AS WELL AS A DUMPSTER THAT WAS IN THE ALLEY.
# 275 Q: AND WHAT WERE THEY LOOKING FOR? WHAT DID YOU TELL THEM TO LOOK FOR?
# 276 A: IN THE ALLEYWAY?
# 277 Q: YES. AND THE GARBAGE CANS?
# 278 A: ANYTHING THAT WOULD APPEAR TO CONTAIN WHAT MIGHT BE BLOOD, A WEAPON, CLOTHING, ANY WHAT MIGHT APPEAR TO BE BLOODSTAINS OR BLOOD SMEARS OR TRANSFERS ON ANY ITEM AT ALL.
# 279 Q: ALL RIGHT. NOW, AT SOME POINT, SIR, DID YOU LEAVE THAT SCENE?
# 281 Q: AND WHERE DID YOU GO?
# 282 A: AS FAR AS LEAVING THE SCENE ITSELF?
# 284 A: YES. I WENT TO PARKER CENTER.
# 285 Q: WAS THAT IN RESPONSE TO A PHONE CALL THAT YOU GOT?
# 288 A: MY PARTNER, DETECTIVE VANNATTER.
# 289 Q: AND ABOUT WHAT TIME WAS THAT?
# 290 A: APPROXIMATELY 12:15 P.M.
# 291 Q: WHEN YOU LEFT, SIR, WHAT DID YOU DO TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SCENE WAS GOING TO BE TAKEN CARE OF?
# 292 MR. COCHRAN: JUST A MOMENT. ASSUMES FACTS NOT IN EVIDENCE, THAT HE DID ANYTHING. I OBJECT TO THE FORM OF THAT QUESTION.
# 293 THE COURT: OVERRULED.
# 294 DET. TOM LANGE: I SPOKE TO MR. FUNG, THE CRIMINALIST, EXPLAINED TO HIM THAT I WAS LEAVING AND THAT THE OFFICERS AT THE SCENE WOULD MAINTAIN A PERIMETER SECURITY UNTIL HE WAS COMPLETED WITH HIS INVESTIGATION. I DID THE SAME WITH THE PRINT PEOPLE WHO WERE STILL AT THE LOCATION AND I SPOKE WITH THE OFFICERS UPON LEAVING, LOGGED OUT AND LEFT THE LOCATION.
# 295 Q: BY MS. CLARK: THEN WERE ALL OF THE EXPERTS THAT HAD TO ARRIVE TO CONDUCT THE CRIME SCENE INVESTIGATION ALREADY AT WORK IN PROGRESS BY THE TIME YOU LEFT THE SCENE?
# 297 Q: AND HAD YOU GIVEN THEM ALL INSTRUCTIONS AS TO WHAT YOU WANTED DONE?
# 299 Q: NOW, AT SOME POINT, SIR, DID YOU RETURN TO THE ROCKINGHAM LOCATION LATER THAT DAY?
# 302 A: I BELIEVE THAT WAS APPROXIMATELY 5:15 P.M.
# 303 Q: AND WHEN YOU DID SO, SIR, DID YOU ENTER THE DEFENDANT'S RESIDENCE?
# 306 A: IT WAS PURSUANT TO A SEARCH WARRANT.
# 307 Q: DID YOU RECOVER SOMETHING FROM THE LOCATION YOURSELF?
# 310 A: A PAIR OF REEBOK TENNIS SHOES OR ATHLETIC SHOES.
# 311 Q: AND WHERE WAS THAT -- WHERE DID YOU RECOVER THEM FROM?
# 312 A: IN THE WALK-IN CLOSET OFF OF THE MASTER BEDROOM ON THE SECOND LEVEL.
# 313 Q: AND DID YOU -- CAN YOU TELL US WHY YOU PICKED THOSE PARTICULAR SHOES TO TAKE FROM THE CLOSET?
# 316 A: I WAS IN THE COMPANY OF MR. SIMPSON AND I ASKED MR. SIMPSON IF HE RECALLED THE SHOES THAT HE WAS WEARING THE NIGHT BEFORE. HE POINTED TO THE REEBOKS AND STATED, "I MIGHT HAVE HAD THOSE ON," SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT.
KEY QUOTE # 318 A: SO AT THAT TIME, I TOLD MR. SIMPSON THAT I WISHED TO TAKE THOSE SHOES, AND HE STATED, "FINE. YOU CAN TAKE THOSE OR ANY OTHER SHOES."
# 319 Q: AND SO YOU TOOK THOSE?
# 321 Q: WHAT DID YOU DO WITH THEM?
# 322 A: I PUT THEM IN A BOX AND PUT THE BOX INTO THE TRUNK OF MY POLICE VEHICLE.
# 323 Q: AND THEN WHAT DID YOU DO?
# 324 A: I SECURED OR LEFT THAT LOCATION SHORTLY THEREAFTER.
# 326 A: I WENT END OF WATCH.
# 328 A: END OF WATCH. I WAS COMPLETE, THROUGH FOR THE DAY.
# 329 Q: SO WHERE DID YOU GO?
# 331 Q: WHAT ABOUT THE SHOES?
# 332 A: THE SHOES WERE IN THE TRUNK.
# 335 Q: SO YOU DIDN'T TAKE THEM INTO PROPERTY?
# 338 A: THE PROPERTY UNIT THAT WAS HANDLING OUR EVIDENCE, THE EVIDENCE CONTROL UNIT WAS CLOSED. THE CRIMINALIST HAD BEEN COLLECTING ITEMS OF EVIDENCE ALL DAY. I WOULD HAVE NEEDED A DR, DIVISIONAL RECORDS, NUMBER TO BOOK THE ITEM. I WOULD HAVE NEEDED AN ITEM NUMBER, NONE OF WHICH HAD BEEN OBTAINED YET. IT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE TO BOOK THOSE SHOES THAT NIGHT.
KEY QUOTE # 339 Q: AND SO WHAT DID YOU DO?
# 340 A: I MAINTAINED THE SHOES IN THE TRUNK OF MY VEHICLE UNTIL THE NEXT MORNING WHEN I TOOK THEM TO THE SCIENTIFIC INVESTIGATION DIVISION, SEROLOGY LAB.
# 341 Q: AND WHAT TIME IN THE MORNING DID YOU TAKE THEM THERE?
# 342 A: I BELIEVE I ARRIVED AT APPROXIMATELY 7:30 A.M. I DON'T RECALL FOR SURE.
# 343 Q: DID YOU TAKE THEM DIRECTLY TO THE ECU, EVIDENCE CONTROL UNIT?
# 344 A: NO. I TOOK THEM TO THE SEROLOGY LAB.
# 345 Q: DIRECTLY TO THE SEROLOGY LAB?
# 347 Q: WHO DID YOU GIVE THEM TO?
# 348 A: TO GREG MATHESON.
# 349 Q: IS HE A SEROLOGIST THERE?
# 351 Q: NOW, IF YOU KNOW, SIR, CAN YOU TELL US, WHEN WAS THE CRIME SCENE AT BUNDY BROKEN DOWN?
# 352 A: I BELIEVE IT APPROXIMATELY 3:30 P.M., BUT I WOULD HAVE TO CHECK THE LOG TO BE SURE.
# 353 Q: WOULD IT REFRESH YOUR MEMORY IF YOU DID SO?
# 355 Q: SHOWING YOU A COPY OF THE CRIME SCENE LOG, SIR, COULD YOU PLEASE EXAMINE THAT, SEE IF IT DOES REFRESH YOUR RECOLLECTION?
# 356 MR. COCHRAN: YOUR HONOR, THE PROBLEM WITH THAT, IF I CAN BE HEARD BRIEFLY, HE'S REFERRING TO SOMEBODY ELSE'S LOG.
# 357 MS. CLARK: YOUR HONOR, CAN WE --
# 358 THE COURT: OVERRULED. OVERRULED. ANY ITEM CAN BE USED TO REFRESH RECOLLECTION. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE PREPARED BY THAT INDIVIDUAL.
# 359 MR. COCHRAN: WHAT IF HE WASN'T THERE?
# 360 THE COURT: IF HE KNOWS.
# 361 Q: BY MS. CLARK: DOES THAT REFRESH YOUR RECOLLECTION, SIR?
# 363 Q: WHAT TIME WAS THE CRIME SCENE TAKEN DOWN AT 875 SOUTH BUNDY?
# 365 Q: ON JUNE THE 13TH?
# 367 Q: HOW WAS IT DETERMINED WHEN A CRIME SCENE SHOULD BE BROKEN DOWN, SIR?
# 368 A: BE DETERMINED BY THE INVESTIGATING OFFICER OR ANY OTHER TECHNICIANS THAT WERE WORKING AT THE SCENE WHETHER OR NOT THEY'D COMPLETED ALL THAT THEY FELT THAT THEY COULD DO AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME.
# 369 Q: NOW, AT SOME POINT, IN EVERY CASE YOU'VE EVER WORKED, DOES THERE COME A TIME WHERE YOU HAVE TO COLLECT THE EVIDENCE AND CLOSE DOWN THE SCENE?
# 371 Q: TAKE THE TAPE AWAY?
# 373 Q: AND THAT OCCURRED AT 3:45 IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE?
# 375 MR. COCHRAN: OBJECTION TO THAT. YOUR HONOR, THE PROBLEM IS --
# 376 MS. CLARK: YOUR HONOR, MAY WE APPROACH? MAY WE APPROACH? I THINK THESE SPEAKING OBJECTIONS ARE VERY INAPPROPRIATE.
# 378 MR. COCHRAN: MAY WE APPROACH?
# 379 THE COURT: YES. APPROACH, BOTH OF YOU, WITH THE COURT REPORTER.