📄 Direct examination of Det. Tom Lange (part 6) — Tuesday, February 21, 1995
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Direct examination of Det. Tom Lange (part 6)

Witness: Det. Tom Lange
Examiner: Marcia Clark
Called by: Prosecution • Date: Tuesday, February 21, 1995 • Utterances: 248
Detective Lange continued his direct examination, walking through the physical evidence trail at the Bundy crime scene: Ron Goldman's keys on the ground suggesting surprise, bloody shoeprints tracking westerly, blood drops tailing in the same direction indicating the killer's path of exit, and blood evidence at the rear gate. A significant revelation emerged: Lange had specifically directed criminalist Dennis Fung to collect blood from the rear gate on June 13, but when Lange returned on July 3, he discovered Fung had not done so, and directed collection at that time.
1 (THE FOLLOWING PROCEEDINGS WERE HELD IN OPEN COURT:)
2 THE COURT:

THANK YOU, COUNSEL. MISS CLARK, YOU MAY LAY SOME ADDITIONAL FOUNDATION.

3 MS. CLARK:

THANK YOU, YOUR HONOR.

4 Q:

DETECTIVE LANGE, HOW MANY HOMICIDES HAVE YOU INVESTIGATED, SIR?

5 A:

EITHER DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY, APPROXIMATELY 250 TO 300.

6 Q:

AND THAT IS OVER HOW MANY YEARS?

7 A:

TWENTY YEARS OF HOMICIDE.

8 Q:

AND CAN YOU TELL US, SIR, THEN YOU INDICATED THAT THE FACT THAT THE -- THAT RON GOLDMAN'S PANTS CONTAINED POCKETS AND THE FACT THAT YOU FOUND KEYS ON THE GROUND --

9 MR. COCHRAN:

ASKED AND ANSWERED.

10 THE COURT:

OVERRULED.

11 Q:

BY MS. CLARK: -- WAS IMPORTANT TO YOU?

12 A:

YES.

13 Q:

AND WHY WAS IT IMPORTANT TO YOU?

14 A:

BECAUSE IT WOULD SHOW TO ME THAT PERHAPS MR. GOLDMAN HAD THOSE KEYS IN HIS HAND AND HAD JUST PERHAPS STOPPED BY FOR A SHORT TIME.

15 MS. CLARK:

OKAY.

16 MR. COCHRAN:

YOUR HONOR, THAT IS SPECULATION. THAT IS SPECULATIVE.

17 THE COURT:

OVERRULED.

18 Q:

BY MS. CLARK: WHAT DID THAT -- AND THEN FINDING THE KEYS ON THE GROUND INDICATED WHAT TO YOU IF HE WAS CARRYING THEM IN HIS HAND AT THE TIME OF THE ATTACK?

19 MR. COCHRAN:

SPECULATION, YOUR HONOR. HE WASN'T THERE.

20 THE COURT:

OVERRULED.

21 DET. TOM LANGE:

I'M SORRY, COULD YOU REPEAT THAT?

22 Q:

BY MS. CLARK: IF HE WAS CARRYING THE KEYS IN HIS HAND AT THE TIME OF THE ATTACK, WHAT DID THAT INDICATE TO YOU ABOUT THE NATURE OF THE ATTACK?

23 MR. COCHRAN:

OBJECT TO THE FORM OF THAT QUESTION.

24 THE COURT:

SUSTAINED. WHAT IS THAT -- IF HE WAS CARRYING THE KEYS IN HIS HAND, WHAT WOULD THAT INDICATE TO YOU, DETECTIVE?

25 DET. TOM LANGE:

PERHAPS THAT HE WAS SURPRISED.

KEY QUOTE
26 THE COURT:

NEXT QUESTION.

27 Q:

BY MS. CLARK: NOW, THE -- IN THE PHOTOGRAPHS THAT YOU HAVE PREVIOUSLY SEEN, THE GATE THAT FACES BUNDY, THE GATE TO THE FRONT -- TO THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE THAT YOU WOULD WALK UP TO FROM THE SIDEWALK --

28 A:

YES.

29 Q:

-- IN WHAT CONDITION DID YOU FIND IT? WHAT POSITION?

30 A:

IT WAS WIDE OPEN.

31 (DISCUSSION HELD OFF THE RECORD BETWEEN THE DEPUTY DISTRICT ATTORNEYS.)
32 MS. CLARK:

CUT THE FEED FOR THIS, YOUR HONOR.

33 THE COURT:

YES.

34 MR. FAIRTLOUGH:

THIS IS PEOPLE'S 45-B, YOUR HONOR.

35 Q:

BY MS. CLARK: ALL RIGHT. DO YOU RECOGNIZE THAT PHOTOGRAPH, SIR?

36 A:

YES.

37 Q:

AND WERE YOU INTERESTED IN HAVING THIS PARTICULAR AREA PHOTOGRAPHED?

38 A:

YES.

39 Q:

WHY?

40 A:

IT SHOWS A TOP VIEW LOOKING DOWN ON THE BACK OF VICTIM NICOLE BROWN AS WELL AS THE -- A GREAT DEAL OF WHAT APPEARS TO BE BLOOD ON THE FIRST STEP OF THE STAIRWELL.

41 Q:

WAS THAT IMPORTANT TO YOU?

42 A:

YES.

43 Q:

AND WHY?

44 A:

THAT WOULD INDICATE TO ME THAT THERE WAS A GOOD POSSIBILITY THAT IS WHERE SHE WAS -- SHE WAS INJURED INITIALLY.

45 Q:

AND THEN YOU HAVE -- IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE IN THIS PHOTOGRAPH THAT WAS SIGNIFICANT TO YOU?

46 A:

THERE IS AN ENVELOPE, THE ENVELOPE WE DISCUSSED EARLIER, IN THE UPPER RIGHT-HAND CORNER.

47 Q:

AND ON THE STAIRS?

48 A:

THERE IS WHAT APPEARS TO BE -- YOU KNOW, THE HEAVY BLOOD STAIN THAT I DESCRIBED.

49 Q:

AND ABOVE THAT?

50 A:

WHAT ARE POSSIBLY SOME TYPE OF DRAG MARKS OR TRANSFERS ON THE SECOND STAIR.

51 Q:

OKAY. DO YOU SEE ANY BLOODY SHOEPRINTS IN THIS PHOTOGRAPH?

52 A:

I BELIEVE THERE ARE DOWN ON THE WALKWAY. THIS PHOTOGRAPH ISN'T THAT CLEAR. I BELIEVE THERE IS ALSO ONE ON THE STEP.

53 Q:

THERE IS ALSO ONE -- DID YOU SEE ON THE STEP WHEN YOU WERE THERE THAT DAY?

54 A:

YES.

55 (DISCUSSION HELD OFF THE RECORD BETWEEN THE DEPUTY DISTRICT ATTORNEYS.)
56 MS. CLARK:

IF YOU CAN --

57 Q:

CAN YOU SEE THE SCREEN FROM WHERE YOU ARE SITTING, SIR? CAN YOU LOOK UP? IS THAT VISIBLE TO YOU? CAN YOU SEE THE RED DOT, THE AREA I'M CIRCLING?

58 A:

YES.

59 Q:

WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE TO YOU?

60 A:

IT APPEARS TO BE A BLOODY SHOEPRINT TRANSFER OF SOME TYPE.

61 Q:

AND OVER HERE AT THE LOWER LEFT-HAND CORNER?

62 A:

THE SAME.

63 Q:

ALL RIGHT. DO YOU RECALL SEEING THOSE -- THOSE BLOODY SHOEPRINTS IN THOSE -- IN THOSE LOCATIONS WHEN YOU WERE AT 875 SOUTH BUNDY?

64 A:

YES.

65 MR. FAIRTLOUGH:

THIS IS PEOPLE'S EXHIBIT 45-C, YOUR HONOR.

66 Q:

BY MS. CLARK: AND DO YOU SEE ANYTHING SIGNIFICANT IN THESE PHOTOGRAPHS, SIR?

67 A:

YES. THAT ALSO APPEARS TO BE BLOODY SHOEPRINT IMPRESSIONS.

68 Q:

AND IF YOU WOULD, CAN YOU LOOK AT THE SCREEN, SIR, AND TELL ME WHERE YOU SEE THEM.

69 A:

WHERE YOU HAD THE RED DOT AND THEN IN THE LOWER RIGHT-HAND PORTION OF THE PHOTOGRAPH, AS WELL AS THE LOWER LEFT -- OR LEFT LOWER LEFT PORTION, YES.

70 Q:

ALL RIGHT. AND THOSE SHOEPRINTS, SIR, CAN YOU TELL US IF YOU CAN TRACE THE THEIR DIRECTION AND PATH?

71 A:

TO APPEAR THEY APPEARED TO BE GOING IN A WESTERLY DIRECTION DOWN THE WALKWAY.

72 Q:

NOW, IN THE AREA OF THE FRONT DOOR, DID YOU SEE ANY BLOODY SHOEPRINTS IN THAT AREA?

73 A:

YES.

74 Q:

OKAY. WERE THEY ANGLED IN TOWARD THE FRONT DOOR?

75 A:

NO. AT THE FRONT DOOR THEY -- THEY APPEARED TO BE GOING DIRECTLY WESTERLY.

76 Q:

PAST THE FRONT DOOR?

77 A:

CORRECT.

78 Q:

AT SOME POINT DID THEY ANGLE IN TOWARDS THE CONDOMINIUM?

79 A:

JUST PRIOR OR EAST OF THE FRONT DOOR ON THE WALKWAY THEY DID APPEAR TO DO SOME TYPE OF A TURN AROUND.

80 Q:

AND THAT WAS EAST OF THE FRONT DOOR?

81 A:

YES.

82 Q:

OKAY. AND AFTER -- AFTER THEY CONTINUED PAST THE FRONT DOOR, AT SOME POINT DID THEY FADE OUT?

83 A:

YES.

84 Q:

AND WHEN WAS THAT?

85 A:

THEY CONTINUED TO A STAIRWELL THROUGH A SMALL GATE AND DOWN THE STAIRWELL TO A POINT AT THE BOTTOM OF THE STAIRWELL.

86 Q:

AFTER WHICH DID YOU SEE ANY MORE OF THEM?

87 A:

NO.

88 Q:

ALL RIGHT. NOW, TO THE LEFT OF -- I THINK YOU INDICATED EARLIER IN YOUR TESTIMONY THAT YOU SAW BLOOD DROPS TO THE LEFT OF THOSE SHOEPRINTS?

89 A:

YES.

90 MR. COCHRAN:

THIS HAS BEEN ASKED AND ANSWERED WITH THIS WITNESS.

91 MS. CLARK:

I HAVEN'T EVEN ASKED THE QUESTION.

92 THE COURT:

OVERRULED.

93 MR. COCHRAN:

I HAVE HEARD THIS QUESTION JUST NOW.

94 THE COURT:

OVERRULED.

95 Q:

BY MS. CLARK: CAN YOU DESCRIBE THE APPEARANCE OF THOSE BLOOD DROPS, SIR?

96 A:

YES. THE BLOOD DROPS APPEARED TO TAIL WESTERLY IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE BLOODY SHOEPRINTS.

97 MR. FAIRTLOUGH:

YOUR HONOR, PEOPLE'S 45-A.

98 MS. CLARK:

OKAY.

99 MR. FAIRTLOUGH:

I'M SORRY, YOUR HONOR. THAT IS 43-A.

100 THE COURT:

43-A.

101 Q:

BY MS. CLARK: ALL RIGHT, SIR. CAN YOU DESCRIBE FOR US, FIRST OF ALL, WHAT IS SHOWN IN THE PHOTOGRAPH AND HOW THE ITEMS DEPICTED IN THE PHOTOGRAPH APPEARED TO YOU WHEN YOU WERE AT THE SCENE?

102 A:

EXCUSE ME. THIS IS AN OVERALL PHOTOGRAPH LOOKING WESTERLY ON THE WALKWAY WITH TWO OF THE, WHAT APPEAR TO BE BLOOD SPOTS, INDICATED BY THE TWO CARDS, ONE IN THE LOWER LEFT AND ONE ON THE CENTER OF THE -- THE PHOTOGRAPH.

103 Q:

AND THOSE CARDS ARE DEPICTING WHAT?

104 A:

THE LOCATION OF THE BLOOD SPOTS.

105 Q:

ARE YOU ABLE TO SEE ANY BLOODY SHOEPRINTS IN THIS PHOTOGRAPH?

106 A:

IT APPEARS IN THE LOWER CENTER THERE MAY BE ONE IN THIS PARTICULAR PHOTOGRAPH.

107 Q:

IF YOU COULD LOOK AT THE SCREEN FOR A MOMENT, SIR, AND TELL US IF I HAVE LOCATED THAT WITH THE RED DOT CIRCLING THE AREA?

108 A:

YES. IT IS THE ONE I JUST DESCRIBED.

109 Q:

DOES IT APPEAR TO YOU THAT THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE IN THIS PHOTOGRAPH BETWEEN THE BLOODY SHOEPRINT AND THE BLOOD DROP NOTED AS PHOTO I.D. NO. 112?

110 MR. COCHRAN:

THE PICTURES SPEAKS FOR ITSELF.

111 THE COURT:

KIND OF A VAGUE QUESTION.

112 MS. CLARK:

IT IS. I'M SORRY, YOUR HONOR. LET ME ASK ANOTHER ONE.

113 Q:

DOES THIS PHOTOGRAPH DEPICT THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THE SHOEPRINT AND THE BLOOD DROP IDENTIFIED AS PHOTO I.D. 112 IN THE SAME MANNER YOU RECALL SEEING IT WHEN YOU WERE AT THE SCENE ON JUNE 13?

114 A:

YES.

115 MR. COCHRAN:

THAT IS ALSO VAGUE.

116 THE COURT:

OVERRULED. DO WE KNOW THE MEASUREMENT OF THE TILES?

117 MS. CLARK:

I WAS JUST GOING TO GET TO THAT. YOU READ MY MIND.

118 MR. COCHRAN:

WHAT WAS THAT LAST ANSWER, YOUR HONOR? WAS THAT YES?

119 MS. CLARK:

YES.

120 MR. COCHRAN:

YES? THANK YOU.

121 Q:

BY MS. CLARK: DID YOU MEASURE THE SIZE OF THESE TILES, DETECTIVE?

122 A:

YES.

123 Q:

AND HOW LARGE ARE THEY?

124 A:

THEY WERE 11 AND ONE-HALF BY 11 AND ONE-HALF INCHES SQUARE.

125 Q:

OKAY. WAS THERE ANYTHING -- ANYTHING THAT YOU MADE PARTICULAR NOTE OF ABOUT THE BLOOD DROPS?

126 A:

YES. I NOTED THAT THEY APPEARED TO TAIL OR TENTACLE IN A WESTERLY DIRECTION IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE BLOODY SHOEPRINTS.

127 Q:

WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY "TAIL"?

128 A:

BY TAILING, IF YOU WOULD VIEW A BLOOD DROPLET UP CLOSELY, THE TENTACLES -- PERHAPS IF IT TENTACLES IN A CERTAIN DIRECTION, TENTACLES OUT, IT WOULD INDICATE THAT WHEN THE --

129 MR. COCHRAN:

I THINK WITHOUT A PROPER FOUNDATION I'M NOT SURE HE CAN TELL US ABOUT TENTACLE OF BLOOD DROPS.

130 THE COURT:

SUSTAINED.

131 Q:

BY MS. CLARK: HAVE YOU RECEIVED ANY TRAINING IN BLOOD SPATTER ANALYSIS, SIR?

132 A:

YES.

133 Q:

CAN YOU TELL WAS THAT IS?

134 A:

BLOOD SPATTER ANALYSIS?

135 Q:

YES.

136 A:

IT IS A STUDY OF BLOOD SPATTERS, BASICALLY HOW BLOOD APPEARS WHEN IT STRIKES DIFFERENT SURFACES FROM DIFFERENT DISTANCES OR AT DIFFERENT SPEEDS.

137 Q:

AND WHERE DID YOU RECEIVE THAT TRAINING?

138 A:

I RECEIVED TRAINING IN THE POLICE ACADEMY AND COLLEGE AND INVESTIGATOR'S SCHOOL, HOMICIDE SCHOOL. I RECEIVED INFORMAL TRAINING FROM OTHER EXPERTS IN THE FIELD. I HAVE REVIEWED TEXTS ON THE SUBJECT AND HAVE VIEWED BLOOD SPATTERS AT MANY CRIME SCENES OVER THE YEARS.

139 Q:

AND HAVE YOU EVER TESTIFIED CONCERNING YOUR OBSERVATIONS OF BLOOD SPATTERS IN THE CASES THAT YOU HAVE HANDLED?

140 A:

YES.

141 Q:

ON HOW MANY OCCASIONS?

142 A:

GOSH, I WOULD HAVE NO IDEA; MAYBE A HUNDRED.

143 Q:

AND WITH RESPECT TO THESE PARTICULAR BLOOD DROPS THEN, SIR, YOU MADE AN OBSERVATION CONCERNING THEIR ANGLE? YOU SAID TAILING?

144 A:

TAILING. A BLOOD DROPLET WILL TAIL OR IT WILL APPEAR THAT THERE ARE TENTACLES COMING OUT FROM IT, DEPENDING ON THE ANGLE THAT IT STRIKES THE TARGET. IF, AS AN EXAMPLE, WE HAD A BLOOD SPOT THAT TENTACLED OR TAILED OUT, AS IN THIS CASE, IN WHAT I BELIEVE IS A WESTERLY DIRECTION, IT WOULD INDICATE THAT THE SOURCE WAS GOING IN A WESTERLY DIRECTION AT THE TIME THAT BLOOD DROPLET STRUCK THE TARGET.

145 Q:

OKAY. AND THE SHOEPRINTS APPEARED TO BE GOING IN WHAT DIRECTION?

146 A:

A WESTERLY DIRECTION.

147 Q:

HOW MANY BLOOD DROPS WERE THERE BETWEEN THE BODIES OF THE VICTIMS -- BLOOD DROPS GOING IN THAT WESTERLY DIRECTION DID YOU FIND BETWEEN THE BODIES OF THE VICTIMS AND THE REAR ALLEY?

148 A:

THERE WERE FIVE, THE LAST ONE BEING IN THE CARPORT AREA.

KEY QUOTE
149 (DISCUSSION HELD OFF THE RECORD BETWEEN THE DEPUTY DISTRICT ATTORNEYS.)
150 Q:

BY MS. CLARK: WHEN YOU GOT TO THE REAR GATE, SIR, DID YOU OBSERVE ANY -- ANY OTHER BLOOD AT THE REAR GATE AREA?

151 A:

YES. I OBSERVED A -- WHAT APPEARED TO BE A TRANSFER OR A SMEAR IN THE MIDDLE TOP RUNG.

152 MR. FAIRTLOUGH:

PEOPLE'S EXHIBIT 53-A.

153 Q:

BY MS. CLARK: AND WHAT ELSE DID YOU SEE, SIR?

154 A:

AND WHAT APPEARED TO BE TWO DROPLETS ON THE INNER LOWER RUNG.

155 MR. FAIRTLOUGH:

PEOPLE'S EXHIBIT 53-B.

156 Q:

BY MS. CLARK: DO THOSE APPEAR TO BE THE BLOOD DROPLETS THAT YOU ARE DESCRIBING, SIR?

157 A:

YES.

158 MR. FAIRTLOUGH:

PEOPLE'S EXHIBIT 53-C, PEOPLE'S EXHIBIT 53-D, PEOPLE'S EXHIBIT 53-E.

159 Q:

BY MS. CLARK: OKAY. DO YOU RECALL SEEING THE -- SEEING ANY BLOOD IN THE AREA THAT YOU SEE THE PHOTO -- THE I.D. MARKER ON THIS ITEM IN THE REAR GATE AREA?

160 A:

NOT ON THAT PARTICULAR DATE.

161 Q:

LET ME ASK YOU THIS, SIR: DID YOU AT SOME POINT HAVE CONTACT WITH A CRIMINALIST BY THE NAME OF DENNIS FUNG?

162 A:

YES.

163 Q:

AND WHEN YOU DID, DID YOU ASK HIM -- DID YOU BRIEF HIM ON WHAT WAS AT THE CRIME SCENE?

164 A:

YES.

165 Q:

DID YOU MAKE CERTAIN REQUESTS OF HIM IN TERMS OF WHAT TO COLLECT?

166 A:

YES.

167 Q:

DID YOU POINT OUT THE REAR GATE AREA TO HIM?

168 A:

YES.

169 Q:

AND ASK HIM TO COLLECT BLOOD FROM THAT AREA?

170 A:

YES.

171 Q:

AT SOME POINT AFTER JUNE THE 13TH DID YOU RETURN TO THE BUNDY AREA FOR A WALK-THROUGH?

172 A:

YES.

173 Q:

AND WHEN YOU DID SO, DID YOU MAKE SOME OBSERVATIONS CONCERNING THE REAR GATE AREA THAT YOU HAVE JUST SEEN -- THE AREA THAT YOU HAVE JUST SEEN IN THESE PAST SEVERAL PHOTOGRAPHS?

174 A:

YES, I DID.

175 Q:

WHAT OBSERVATION OF THAT --

176 MR. COCHRAN:

OBJECT WITHOUT A FURTHER FOUNDATION. WHEN DID HE COME BACK? WAS IT THREE WEEKS LATER? WHEN WAS IT?

177 THE COURT:

SUSTAINED.

178 Q:

BY MS. CLARK: YES. TELL US WHAT DATE WAS IT THAT YOU RETURNED?

179 A:

JULY 3RD, 1994.

180 Q:

AND WHAT OBSERVATION DID YOU MAKE?

181 A:

I OBSERVED THE SAME THING THAT I OBSERVED BACK ON JUNE 13.

182 Q:

WHICH WAS?

183 A:

THE BLOOD SMEAR TRANSFER ON THE UPPER RUNG, THE BLOOD ON THE LOWER RUNG AND THIS PARTICULAR ITEM ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE GATE.

184 Q:

ITEM 117?

185 A:

YES.

186 Q:

AND WHAT DID YOU DO WHEN YOU SAW THAT?

187 A:

I INQUIRED OF THE CRIMINALIST --

188 MR. COCHRAN:

JUST A MOMENT. I OBJECT AS TO -- AS TO WHAT HE DID. DID HE TELL US -- I WILL WAIT UNTIL HE FINISHES THE ANSWER.

189 THE COURT:

THANK YOU.

190 DET. TOM LANGE:

I INQUIRED OF THE CRIMINALIST IF HE HAD CHECKED THE GATE AS I HAD REQUESTED ON JUNE 13TH. HE STATED HE HAD NOT.

KEY QUOTE
191 MR. COCHRAN:

JUST A MOMENT. I OBJECT TO WHAT THE CRIMINALIST SAID. THAT IS HEARSAY.

192 THE COURT:

SUSTAINED. THE ANSWER IS STRICKEN. THE JURY IS TO DISREGARD.

193 Q:

BY MS. CLARK: AND WHEN YOU ASKED THE CRIMINALIST WHETHER HE COLLECTED THE BLOOD ON THE REAR GATE AS YOU REQUESTED, HE MADE A RESPONSE TO YOU?

194 A:

YES.

195 Q:

AND BASED ON WHAT HE TOLD YOU, WHAT DID YOU DO?

196 MR. COCHRAN:

WELL, OBJECT, YOUR HONOR. THAT IS CALLING FOR HEARSAY.

197 THE COURT:

OVERRULED.

198 DET. TOM LANGE:

I HAD HIM AT THAT TIME TAKE SAMPLES FROM THE GATE, CHECK THE ENTIRE GATE.

199 Q:

BY MS. CLARK: AND THE GATE WAS THEN PHOTOGRAPHED?

200 A:

YES.

201 Q:

NOW, WERE THERE ANY PRINT PEOPLE AT THE SCENE ON JUNE 13, SIR?

202 A:

YES.

203 Q:

WHEN DID THEY FIRST BEGIN TO ARRIVE, IF YOU KNOW?

204 A:

I BELIEVE THE FIRST ONE ARRIVED PRIOR TO 4:00 A.M.

205 Q:

BEFORE YOU GOT THERE?

206 A:

YES.

207 Q:

AND DID YOU DIRECT -- WHEN YOU GOT THERE AT APPROXIMATELY 4:30 A.M., DID YOU HAVE ANY CONVERSATION WITH THAT PRINT SPECIALIST?

208 A:

NOT AT THAT TIME, I DON'T BELIEVE SO.

209 Q:

AFTER YOU RETURNED TO BUNDY AT 6:45 A.M., DID YOU HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH ANY OF THE PRINT SPECIALISTS?

210 A:

YES.

211 Q:

AND WHAT DID YOU DIRECT THEM TO DO?

212 A:

I DIRECTED THE PRINT PEOPLE TO PRINT THE ENTIRE OUTSIDE AREA, FENCE AREA, AROUND THE CRIME SCENE, THE RAILING ALONG THE WALKWAY, THE REAR GATE AREA, THE VEHICLES IN THE BACK, ONE IN THE GARAGE, ONE IN THE DRIVEWAY. I DIRECTED THEM TO PRINT THE FRONT DOOR OF THE RESIDENCE INSIDE AND OUT AND I DIRECTED THEM TO PRINT THE INSIDE OF THE RESIDENCE, THE MOLDINGS AROUND DOORS, ALL OF THE TELEPHONES, TELEVISION SET UPSTAIRS, ITEMS IN THE BATHROOM, THE BEDROOM. EVENTUALLY I REQUESTED THAT THEY PRINT THE KITCHEN KNIFE THAT WAS ON THE KITCHEN COUNTER, THE FIRST LEVEL ROOM -- BATHROOM NEAR THE KITCHEN, THE RAILING, THE HAND RAILING GOING FROM THE FIRST TO THE SECOND LEVEL. THAT IS BASICALLY IT.

213 (DISCUSSION HELD OFF THE RECORD BETWEEN THE DEPUTY DISTRICT ATTORNEYS.)
214 (DISCUSSION HELD OFF THE RECORD BETWEEN DEPUTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY AND DEFENSE COUNSEL.)
215 MR. FAIRTLOUGH:

YOUR HONOR, MAY THIS BE MARKED PEOPLE'S NEXT IN ORDER, PEOPLE'S 84?

216 THE COURT:

MISS ROBERTSON, 84?

217 THE CLERK:

YES.

218 THE COURT:

84.

219 (PEO'S 84 FOR ID = PHOTOGRAPH)
220 Q:

BY MS. CLARK: ALL RIGHT, SIR. DO YOU SEE WHAT IS DEPICTED IN THIS PHOTOGRAPH -- WHO IS DEPICTED IN THIS PHOTOGRAPH?

221 A:

THOSE ARE TWO OF LAPD'S PRINT TECHNICIANS. THIS PHOTOGRAPH IS LOOKING DOWN THE STAIRWELL IN A WESTERLY DIRECTION ALONG THE WALKWAY.

222 Q:

OKAY. SHE IS POINTING TO THE HANDRAIL?

223 A:

YES.

224 Q:

IS THAT ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT YOU ASKED BE PHOTOGRAPHED -- EXCUSE ME -- DUSTED FOR PRINTS?

225 A:

YES.

226 (DISCUSSION HELD OFF THE RECORD BETWEEN THE DEPUTY DISTRICT ATTORNEYS.)
227 MR. FAIRTLOUGH:

YOUR HONOR, PEOPLE'S EXHIBIT NO. 75.

228 Q:

BY MS. CLARK: NOW, YOU INDICATED ALSO THAT YOU SAW A KNIFE ON THE COUNTER AND YOU SAW THAT WHEN YOU FIRST WALKED INTO THE HOUSE AT YOUR FIRST VISIT TO BUNDY AT ABOUT 4:30 A.M., RIGHT?

229 A:

YES.

230 Q:

AND IS THAT THE POSITION IN WHICH YOU FOUND IT, SIR?

231 A:

YES.

232 MR. FAIRTLOUGH:

PEOPLE'S EXHIBIT NO. 76.

233 Q:

BY MS. CLARK: DID YOU DIRECT THAT SOMETHING BE DONE WITH THIS KNIFE, SIR?

234 A:

YES.

235 Q:

FIRST OF ALL, IS THAT THE LOCATION AND CONDITION IN WHICH YOU FOUND IT?

236 A:

YES.

237 Q:

AND WHAT DID YOU DIRECT BE DONE WITH IT?

238 A:

I DIRECTED THAT THE CRIMINALIST VISUALLY INSPECT IT FOR ANY POSSIBLE BLOOD STAINS. SUBSEQUENT TO THAT, THAT THE PRINT PEOPLE PRINT IT.

239 Q:

OKAY. WELL, ARE YOU -- ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO LET PRINT PEOPLE PRINT AN ITEM IF THERE IS BLOOD ON IT?

240 A:

NO. IT IS PREFERABLE THAT THE BLOOD BE DEALT WITH WITH SOME TYPE OF TESTING METHOD FIRST.

241 Q:

AND WAS THAT DONE?

242 A:

A VISUAL INSPECTION WAS MADE. THERE WERE NO TESTS DONE ON THE KNIFE.

243 Q:

AND WAS IT THEN PRINTED AS WELL?

244 A:

YES.

245 Q:

WHAT ELSE WAS PRINTED INSIDE THE HOUSE, OTHER THAN THE MOLDING AREAS AND THE -- AROUND THE DOOR FRAME THAT YOU HAVE INDICATED?

246 A:

WHAT ELSE WAS PRINTED?

247 Q:

YES, WHAT ELSE INSIDE?

248 A:

I BELIEVE I STATED THE TELEPHONES, THE TELEVISION UPSTAIRS, THERE WAS A PACK OF I BELIEVE MARLBORO CIGARETTES IN THE UPSTAIRS BATHROOM THAT WAS PRINTED, I BELIEVE THE NIGHTSTAND IN THE BEDROOM, AND THEY HAD GENERAL INSTRUCTIONS TO PRINT ANYTHING THAT THEY FELT -- THEY WOULD HAVE LATITUDE TO PRINT ANYTHING THAT APPEARED TO ME -- MIGHT CONTAIN PRINTS.

Temperature

tense

Key Quotes (4)

Tom Lange
PERHAPS THAT HE WAS SURPRISED.
Lange's inference that Goldman was holding his keys at the time of the attack, suggesting the assault was sudden and unexpected.
Tom Lange
IF, AS AN EXAMPLE, WE HAD A BLOOD SPOT THAT TENTACLED OR TAILED OUT, AS IN THIS CASE, IN WHAT I BELIEVE IS A WESTERLY DIRECTION, IT WOULD INDICATE THAT THE SOURCE WAS GOING IN A WESTERLY DIRECTION AT THE TIME THAT BLOOD DROPLET STRUCK THE TARGET.
Key blood spatter analysis linking the blood drop direction to the shoeprint trail heading toward the rear exit.
Tom Lange
I INQUIRED OF THE CRIMINALIST IF HE HAD CHECKED THE GATE AS I HAD REQUESTED ON JUNE 13TH. HE STATED HE HAD NOT.
Stricken as hearsay, but established the fact that critical rear gate blood evidence went uncollected for three weeks despite Lange's explicit direction — a major evidence handling failure.
Tom Lange
THERE WERE FIVE, THE LAST ONE BEING IN THE CARPORT AREA.
Establishes a precise count of blood drops tracing the killer's westerly exit path from the bodies to the rear alley.

Evidence (9)

People's 45-B
Overhead photo showing Nicole Brown's back and heavy blood staining on the first stairwell step, with the Bundy envelope visible
introduced and discussed
People's 45-C
Photo showing bloody shoeprint impressions on the walkway
introduced and discussed
People's 43-A
Overall westerly-looking walkway photo with two blood spots marked by evidence cards
introduced and discussed
People's 53-A through 53-E
Photos of the rear gate showing blood smear on top rung, two droplets on lower rung, and item 117 on the outside of the gate
introduced and discussed
People's 84
Photo of two LAPD print technicians working at the stairwell handrail
introduced and discussed
People's 75
Photo of kitchen knife on counter, position as found
introduced and discussed
+ 3 more

Notable Exchanges (3)

Marcia ClarkJohnnie CochranLance A. Ito
Cochran repeatedly objected to Lange's blood spatter/tailing testimony as lacking foundation; Ito sustained and Clark re-established Lange's qualifications (250-300 homicides, ~100 prior testimonies on blood spatter) before allowing the analysis.
strategic
Marcia ClarkJohnnie CochranLance A. Ito
Lange testified Fung said he had not collected rear gate blood as directed; Cochran objected as hearsay, Ito sustained and struck the answer. Clark then maneuvered around the ruling by asking what Lange did based on that response, allowing the consequence (Fung belatedly collecting samples on July 3) to come in.
strategic
Johnnie CochranMarcia Clark
Cochran interrupted to clarify Lange's answer ('Was that yes?') after a photo identification question, with Clark confirming 'Yes.'
procedural

Light Moments (1)

Marcia Clark
After Ito asked about the tile measurements unprompted, Clark quipped 'You read my mind' to the judge.

Credibility Attacks (1)

⚔ Dennis Fung
prior failure / omission
Though Fung was not on the stand, testimony established he failed to collect blood from the rear gate on June 13 despite Lange's explicit direction, requiring a return visit July 3 — laying groundwork for later attacks on evidence chain of custody.

Witness Demeanor

(The witness asks for the question to be repeated once during the keys/surprise line of questioning)
(The witness expresses uncertainty about number of blood spatter testimonies: 'GOSH, I WOULD HAVE NO IDEA; MAYBE A HUNDRED.')

Objections

12 objections (4 sustained, 7 overruled)
Proceeding 4929 • 248 utterances • Prosecution witness
Criminal Trial
Department 103
⚖️ Start
📂 FEB 21, 1995 📄 Direct examination of Det. Tom
FEB 21, 1995 KRT DvH TD