📄 Redirect examination of Christian Reichardt (part 1) — Tuesday, August 22, 1995
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Redirect examination of Christian Reichardt (part 1)

Witness: Christian Reichardt
Examiner: Johnnie Cochran
Called by: Defense • Date: Tuesday, August 22, 1995 • Utterances: 138
Cochran conducts redirect examination of Dr. Christian Reichardt, OJ Simpson's friend and treating physician, to rehabilitate his credibility after Darden's cross-examination. Cochran elicits that Reichardt gave consistent statements to police, refused to profit from the case, and that Simpson appeared happy and 'out of the loop' regarding Nicole once he began dating Paula Barbieri. Cochran's attempt to introduce Nicole's alleged jealous reaction to Simpson's relationship with Barbieri was blocked on hearsay grounds.
1 MR. COCHRAN:

Dr. Reichardt, Mr. Darden asked you some questions and he didn't finish asking the questions about the statement. Have you ever--

2 THE COURT:

Counsel--

3 MR. COCHRAN:

Well, let me--

4 THE COURT:

Rephrase that.

5 MR. COCHRAN:

Okay. I will rephrase it.

6 MR. COCHRAN:

With regard to this alleged statement that was reported by the Los Angeles Police Department on June 13th, 1994--from June 13th, 1994, do you recall talking to the police at some time after June 13th?

7 DR. REICHARDT:

Yes, I do.

8 MR. COCHRAN:

And were you cooperative when you talked to them?

9 DR. REICHARDT:

Absolutely, yeah.

10 MR. COCHRAN:

All right. In that statement to the police you told them that--about this conversation with Mr. O.J. Simpson; isn't that correct?

11 DR. REICHARDT:

Yes, that's right.

12 MR. COCHRAN:

You told them that Mr. Simpson was packing for his trip to Chicago, that he returned on Wednesday; isn't that correct?

13 DR. REICHARDT:

That's correct.

14 MR. COCHRAN:

Just like you told this jury, right?

15 DR. REICHARDT:

Right.

16 MR. COCHRAN:

And that they would get together when he returned?

17 DR. REICHARDT:

That's correct.

18 MR. COCHRAN:

Just like you told this jury, right?

19 DR. REICHARDT:

Absolutely.

20 MR. DARDEN:

I object to the form of the question, your Honor.

21 MR. COCHRAN:

Do you--

22 MR. DARDEN:

You can have the witness--

23 THE COURT:

You can ask him testimony or about his statement, but what he is doing in front of the jury, the jury is here to observe that.

24 MR. COCHRAN:

Thank you, your Honor.

25 MR. COCHRAN:

Now, do you recall in this conversation whether or not this police officer--by the way, was that a telephone conversation that you had with the LAPD?

26 (No audible response.)
27 MR. COCHRAN:

Was that conversation over the phone?

28 THE COURT:

You mean phone interview?

29 DR. REICHARDT:

No, they came to my office.

30 MR. COCHRAN:

Okay. You sat and talked with them, right?

31 DR. REICHARDT:

Absolutely, yeah.

32 MR. COCHRAN:

Do you recall them ever asking you how long this telephone--this--your conversation with Mr. O.J. Simpson was?

33 DR. REICHARDT:

Nope.

34 MR. COCHRAN:

All right.

35 DR. REICHARDT:

I don't recall.

36 MR. COCHRAN:

But as you sit here now you recall how long that was, don't you?

37 DR. REICHARDT:

Absolutely.

38 MR. COCHRAN:

It was fifteen minutes?

39 DR. REICHARDT:

Yeah.

40 MR. COCHRAN:

And if they had asked, you would have told them fifteen minutes, right?

41 DR. REICHARDT:

Absolutely.

42 MR. COCHRAN:

Now, with regard to the statement about whether or not you talked about Miss Nicole Brown Simpson, that was not the thrust of any of that conversation, was it?

43 DR. REICHARDT:

Not at all.

44 MR. COCHRAN:

In fact, do you recall that Mr. Simpson had said that--to you that he was out of the loop, that he was glad to be out of the loop and that he had gotten his life together with his new lady? Do you remember him telling you that?

45 DR. REICHARDT:

That's correct.

46 MR. COCHRAN:

Who was that new lady?

47 DR. REICHARDT:

Paula Barbieri.

48 MR. COCHRAN:

You knew about Paula Barbieri; isn't that correct?

49 DR. REICHARDT:

Yes, I did.

50 MR. COCHRAN:

Also, Mr. Simpson had told you that he began dating Paula Barbieri on a regular basis; isn't that correct?

51 DR. REICHARDT:

Yeah.

52 MR. COCHRAN:

And that you had said and indicated to the police in the interview that Mr. Simpson seemed to like Paula a lot and seemed happy or at least happier than he had been before once he was with Paula; isn't that correct?

53 DR. REICHARDT:

That's correct, yeah.

54 MR. COCHRAN:

That is what you told the police; isn't that correct?

55 DR. REICHARDT:

Yeah.

56 MR. COCHRAN:

And when you talked to the police, Dr. Reichardt, were you telling them the truth?

57 DR. REICHARDT:

Absolutely.

58 MR. COCHRAN:

And when you are coming here today to testify to this jury, are you telling them the truth?

59 DR. REICHARDT:

Absolutely.

60 MR. COCHRAN:

Now, Mr. Darden asked you some questions about treating Mr. Simpson and you said, yes, you did. Do you recall that?

61 DR. REICHARDT:

Yeah.

62 MR. COCHRAN:

And what did you treat Mr. Simpson for?

63 MR. DARDEN:

Objection.

64 THE COURT:

Overruled.

65 MR. COCHRAN:

He opened the door.

66 MR. COCHRAN:

What did you treat him for?

67 DR. REICHARDT:

For his knee problems.

68 MR. COCHRAN:

And what knee problems are those?

69 MR. DARDEN:

Same objection.

70 THE COURT:

Overruled.

71 DR. REICHARDT:

I observed him one day in the morning walking down the stairs and--

72 MR. DARDEN:

Objection, nonresponsive.

73 THE COURT:

Overruled.

74 MR. COCHRAN:

He can answer.

75 MR. COCHRAN:

Please do.

76 DR. REICHARDT:

That he had a very hard time walking and I said, "Come on and we'll start taking care of that."

77 MR. COCHRAN:

And when was that?

78 DR. REICHARDT:

It must have been early summer `93.

79 MR. COCHRAN:

How long did you take care of him for his knee problems?

80 DR. REICHARDT:

Sporadically when he was in town.

81 MR. COCHRAN:

Did that continue on until 1994?

82 DR. REICHARDT:

Absolutely, yeah.

83 MR. COCHRAN:

Mr. Darden asked you about writing a book. Do you have any plans or have you ever tried to profit one iota on this case, sir?

84 DR. REICHARDT:

I refuse to.

85 MR. COCHRAN:

And every time the District Attorney's office has asked you to come down and talk with them, you have talked with them; isn't that correct?

86 DR. REICHARDT:

That's correct.

87 MR. COCHRAN:

In fact, you did a rather lengthy interview with Mr. Darden himself; isn't that correct?

88 DR. REICHARDT:

That's right.

89 MR. COCHRAN:

At some point; isn't that right?

90 DR. REICHARDT:

Yeah.

91 MR. COCHRAN:

You came down voluntarily and talked to him?

92 DR. REICHARDT:

He came to Mr. Rubalcava's office.

93 MR. COCHRAN:

And you talked to him?

94 DR. REICHARDT:

Yeah.

95 MR. COCHRAN:

With regard to these trips, you and Mr. Simpson were friends; is that correct?

96 DR. REICHARDT:

That's correct.

97 MR. COCHRAN:

And you have been on various trips together?

98 DR. REICHARDT:

That's correct.

99 MR. COCHRAN:

Been out to dinner together?

100 DR. REICHARDT:

That's correct.

101 MR. COCHRAN:

And back in 1993, when you first had occasion to meet Mr. O.J. Simpson, at that time was he seeing Miss Nicole Brown Simpson at that point? Were they together?

102 DR. REICHARDT:

They were trying. They were trying to see whether it would work out or not.

103 MR. COCHRAN:

And who was pursuing who at that point, if you recall?

104 DR. REICHARDT:

At that time Nicole was trying to put her family together.

KEY QUOTE
105 MR. DARDEN:

Speculation, objection. Motion to strike.

106 THE COURT:

Overruled.

107 MR. COCHRAN:

She was trying to get back with him?

108 DR. REICHARDT:

Right, to have a family for her children.

109 MR. COCHRAN:

May I have just a moment, your Honor?

110 THE COURT:

Certainly.

111 (Discussion held off the record between Defense counsel and the Defendant.)
112 MR. COCHRAN:

Just a couple other questions, your Honor, if I may.

113 MR. COCHRAN:

Dr. Reichardt, when you would go on trips with Mr. Simpson, you would pay your own way, would you not?

114 DR. REICHARDT:

Yeah, if--at times.

115 MR. COCHRAN:

All right. And sometimes Mr. Simpson would provide lodging or rent a house or a villa for everyone?

116 DR. REICHARDT:

That's correct.

117 MR. COCHRAN:

And you would pay your own way to get there?

118 DR. REICHARDT:

For the plane tickets and food and things like that.

119 MR. COCHRAN:

All right. Now, with regard to your knowledge of Miss Nicole Brown Simpson and Mr. Simpson, you have described for us that Mr. Simpson--Mr. Darden asked you a question about at some point they stopped seeing each other and that Mr. Simpson started seeing Paula Barbieri. Do you recall that?

120 MR. DARDEN:

Objection, that misstates the question.

121 THE COURT:

Excuse me. Overruled.

122 MR. COCHRAN:

And was there a time when you were aware of--was there ever an argument where Miss Nicole Brown Simpson called you up and argued with you about--after she had broken up with Mr. Simpson or they had broken up?

123 DR. REICHARDT:

Yes, there was.

124 MR. COCHRAN:

Did that have to do--

125 MR. DARDEN:

I'm going to object at this time as hearsay.

126 MR. COCHRAN:

He has opened the door, your Honor.

127 THE COURT:

Not to a statement by somebody else.

128 MR. COCHRAN:

I didn't ask the statement yet. May I ask another question?

129 THE COURT:

Proceed.

130 MR. COCHRAN:

Thank you, your Honor.

131 MR. COCHRAN:

Was there an occasion when Mr. Simpson started to date Paula Barbieri that Miss Nicole Brown Simpson became upset?

132 MR. DARDEN:

Objection.

133 MR. COCHRAN:

And that there was a conversation--you received a telephone call from her?

134 MR. DARDEN:

Objection. This is obviously hearsay.

135 THE COURT:

That is also a speaking objection and you are not standing either, counsel. Sustained.

136 MR. COCHRAN:

Thank you, your Honor. I have nothing further at this point, your Honor.

137 THE COURT:

Thank you, Mr. Cochran.

138 MR. DARDEN:

Just a few questions, your Honor.

Temperature

procedural

Key Quotes (4)

Christian Reichardt
I refuse to.
Direct denial of any intent to profit from the case, rebutting Darden's book-writing insinuation on cross.
Christian Reichardt
He said that he was out of the loop, that he was glad to be out of the loop and that he had gotten his life together with his new lady.
Defense framing: Simpson was emotionally moving on from Nicole, undermining motive for the murders.
Christian Reichardt
At that time Nicole was trying to put her family together.
Reverses the prosecution's domestic-violence narrative by suggesting Nicole was the pursuer in the reconciliation.
Johnnie Cochran
He opened the door.
Repeated argument used to justify eliciting testimony about Simpson's knee treatment and relationship dynamics, referencing scope opened by Darden on cross.

Evidence (1)

Informal
LAPD written/in-person statement from Dr. Reichardt taken after June 13, 1994
discussed — Cochran confirms Reichardt's trial testimony was consistent with his prior police statement

Notable Exchanges (2)

Johnnie CochranLance A. ItoChristopher Darden
Cochran attempts to introduce Nicole Brown Simpson's alleged jealous phone call to Reichardt after she learned Simpson was dating Barbieri. Darden objects on hearsay; Ito sustains, also scolding Darden for a 'speaking objection' and for not standing.
strategic
Lance A. ItoJohnnie Cochran
Ito redirects Cochran on his opening question about the police statement, instructing him to rephrase before allowing the line of questioning.
procedural

Credibility Attacks (2)

⚔ Christian Reichardt
prior inconsistent statement / omission
Cochran rehabilitates Reichardt by demonstrating his police statement was consistent with trial testimony on all key points (Simpson packing for Chicago, returning Wednesday, happiness with Barbieri), neutralizing any impeachment Darden had attempted on cross.
⚔ Christian Reichardt
financial motive / bias
Cochran directly addresses Darden's book-writing insinuation from cross, eliciting Reichardt's flat 'I refuse to' regarding profiting from the case.

Witness Demeanor

(No audible response) — when asked whether police contact was by phone

Objections

11 objections (2 sustained, 7 overruled)
Proceeding 7397 • 138 utterances • Defense witness
Criminal Trial
Department 103
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