THE GLOVE THAT YOU RECOVERED FROM THE TOP DRAWER OF THAT -- ONE OF THOSE CHEST OF DRAWERS IN THE DEFENDANT'S CLOSET, WAS THAT IN THE DEFENDANT'S MASTER BEDROOM WALK-IN CLOSET?
AND THE FACT THAT IT WAS A LONE GLOVE IS WHAT CAUSED YOU TO HAVE SOME CONCERN THAT IT MIGHT MATCH THE OTHER GLOVE RECOVERED ON THE PROPERTY?
DID YOU DETERMINE THAT THAT GLOVE -- WELL, FIRST, THE GLOVE THAT YOU RECOVERED WAS A RIGHT-HANDED GLOVE?
AND YOU WERE AWARE THAT THE GLOVE RECOVERED ALONG THE SOUTH PATHWAY WAS ALSO A RIGHT-HANDED GLOVE?
I'M SORRY, I MISSPOKE. YOU BECAME AWARE OF THAT AFTER SPEAKING TO DETECTIVE LANGE OR VANNATTER LATER ON?
NOW, YOUR DUTY AT ROCKINGHAM WAS TO DIRECT THE EXECUTION OF THE SEARCH WARRANT WHICH DETECTIVE VANNATTER HAD OBTAINED; IS THAT CORRECT?
AND YOU WERE LEFT IN CHARGE OF THE SCENE FOR THAT PURPOSE BECAUSE DETECTIVES VANNATTER AND LANGE, THE MOST SENIOR LEAD DETECTIVES ON THE CASE, WENT DOWNTOWN FOR THE PURPOSE OF SPEAKING WITH MR. SIMPSON; IS THAT RIGHT?
WELL, I KNEW THAT DETECTIVE VANNATTER HAD RESPONDED. I WAS UNAWARE THAT DETECTIVE LANGE HAD ALSO RESPONDED TO ROBBERY/HOMICIDE DIVISION.
DID YOU CAUSE AN SID PHOTOGRAPHER TO COME TO TAKE CRIME SCENE PHOTOS FOR YOUR USE IN INVESTIGATING THAT LOCATION AS A CRIME SCENE?
WITHOUT LOOKING AT THE CRIME SCENE LOG, I COULDN'T BE ACCURATE, BUT IT WAS IN THE MORNING SOMETIME.
YOUR HONOR, I HAVE A BLANK -- I MEAN AN UNMARKED UP COPY OF THAT WHICH I WILL SHOW DEFENSE COUNSEL.
YOUR HONOR, MAY THIS BE MARKED -- I'M NOT SURE WHAT EXHIBIT NUMBER -- FOR PURPOSES OF THIS HEARING?
WELL, YOUR HONOR, THE PROBLEM IS IF HE WASN'T THERE, I'M NOT CLEAR IF JUST READING THAT DOCUMENT IS GOING TO REFRESH HIS RECOLLECTION.
BY MS. LEWIS: DETECTIVE LUPER, WHAT TIME DID YOU PERSONALLY ARRIVE AT THAT ROCKINGHAM LOCATION?
NOW, HOW -- WERE YOU IN THE PRESENCE OF SID PHOTOGRAPHER WHEN THAT PHOTOGRAPHER WAS TAKING PHOTOS AT THE SCENE?
AND YOUR PURPOSE IN DOING SO WAS TO PRESERVE FOR INVESTIGATIVE PURPOSES THE CRIME SCENE -- THE ROCKINGHAM CRIME SCENE; IS THAT CORRECT?
DO YOU RECALL APPROXIMATELY WHAT TIME YOU STARTED -- WHAT TIME YOU NOTICED, FIRST NOTICED THE SID PHOTOGRAPHER TAKING PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE CRIME SCENE?
UMM, QUARTER TO 1:00. IF WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE INSIDE OF THE RESIDENCE, IT WAS ABOUT APPROXIMATELY A QUARTER TO 1:00.
WHEN THE SID PHOTOGRAPHER WAS TAKING PHOTOS, HAD ALL OF THE EVIDENCE WHICH YOU EVENTUALLY RECOVERED BEEN TAKEN INTO POSSESSION YET OR WAS MUCH OF IT STILL THERE, RECOGNIZING THERE WERE NOT A LOT OF THINGS BESIDES BLOOD RECOVERED ON THE 13TH?
THE PURPOSE OF THE INITIAL PHOTOGRAPHS WAS TO RECORD IT AS WE FOUND IT AND LATER ON, AS THE EVIDENCE WAS COLLECTED, IT WAS ALSO PHOTOGRAPHED.
YOUR HONOR, I WOULD LIKE TO PLAY JUST THE BEGINNING OF DEFENSE 1068 FOR PURPOSES OF SHOWING TIMING OF THE ARRIVAL OF THE VIDEOGRAPHER. I TELL YOU WHAT --
BY MS. LEWIS: WHILE HE IS DOING THAT, DETECTIVE LUPER, AFTER COMPLETING THE PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE CRIME SCENE AND RECOVERING EVIDENCE, DID YOU MAKE AN ATTEMPT TO DO SOMETHING WITH REGARD TO THE PREMISES IN TERMS OF THE WAY YOU HAD FIRST FOUND THEM?
THAT'S CORRECT, AND THE PURPOSE OF THAT WAS TO ENSURE THAT BOTH DETECTIVE LANGE AND VANNATTER GOT A PROPER FEEL FOR THE ROOMS AND RESIDENCE AS I HAD FOUND IT.
SO THE WAY THAT SOMETHING APPEARS ON THE VIDEOTAPE MAY NOT REFLECT THE WAY IT APPEARED AT SOME POINT BETWEEN THE CRIME SCENE PHOTOS AND A POINT THEREAFTER WHEN THE EVIDENCE WAS ACTUALLY COLLECTED; IS THAT CORRECT?
SO YOU -- ONE COULD NOT TELL OR YOU COULD NOT TELL FROM LOOKING JUST AT THE CRIME SCENE VIDEOTAPE, IN RELATION TO THE CRIME SCENE PHOTOS, YOU COULD NOT NECESSARILY TELL WHEN ITEMS -- WHEN EVIDENCE WAS COLLECTED; IS THAT ACCURATE?
NOW, WHAT IS YOUR BEST RECOLLECTION AS FAR AS WHEN THE ITEMS OF REAL EVIDENCE WERE COLLECTED FROM THE INTERIOR OF THE LOCATION?
IT WAS PRIOR TO THE SHOOTING OF THE VIDEOTAPE, ANYWHERE FROM 2:30 TO 4:15, I WOULD SAY.
KEY QUOTEAND WAS IT YOUR BELIEF THAT THE SOCKS HAD BEEN RECOVERED FROM THE CARPET IN THE MASTER BEDROOM PRIOR TO THE VIDEOTAPE BEING SHOT?
DID YOU NOTICE THAT THE TAPE HAPPENS TO STOP BEFORE SHOWING THE LOCATION WHERE THE SOCKS HAD BEEN RECOVERED FROM?
BY MS. LEWIS: SO YOU CAN'T TELL FROM LOOKING AT THE VIDEOTAPE ALONE EXACTLY WHEN THE SOCKS WERE RECOVERED; IS THAT FAIR?
BY MS. LEWIS: WERE YOU PRESENT WITH THE VIDEOGRAPHER WHEN HE WAS VIDEOTAPING THE MASTER BEDROOM?
BY MS. LEWIS: ALL RIGHT. DID YOU NOTICE DETECTIVE LUPER? AS THE TAPE IS FLOWING, IT SHOWS 2:11 APPARENTLY ON THE EQUIPMENT ITSELF?
AND IS THAT THE ARRIVAL OF MR. ADKINS WHO TESTIFIED EARLIER ABOUT THE SCENE? DOES IT APPEAR TO BE THAT?
BY MS. LEWIS: AND THE -- IS YOUR ARRIVAL TIME -- YOUR ARRIVAL TIME SHOWN ON THE CRIME SCENE LOG OF ROCKINGHAM, PEOPLE'S 158 FOR IDENTIFICATION?
AND DO YOU HAVE AN INDEPENDENT RECOLLECTION OF EXACTLY WHEN THE VIDEOGRAPHER ARRIVED AT THE CRIME SCENE?
BY MS. LEWIS: SHOWING YOU PEOPLE'S 158 FOR IDENTIFICATION, THE CRIME SCENE LOG, WOULD YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND SEE IF THAT REFRESHES YOUR RECOLLECTION AS TO THE ARRIVAL OF MR. ADKINS AND MR. FORD?
NOT AN INDEPENDENT RECOLLECTION BECAUSE I DIDN'T SEE THEM LEAVE, BUT ACCORDING TO THE CRIME SCENE LOG IT SHOWS --
BY MS. LEWIS: WHEN IS YOUR BEST RECOLLECTION OF THE LAST TIME YOU PERSONALLY SAW MR. ADKINS AND MR. FORD AT THE CRIME SCENE AT THE ROCKINGHAM LOCATION?
DURING THE TIME THAT THE VIDEO WAS BEING SHOT, WAS EITHER DETECTIVE LANGE OR DETECTIVE PHILLIPS THERE?
DO YOU RECALL WHAT TIME -- DO YOU HAVE AN INDEPENDENT RECOLLECTION OF WHAT TIME DETECTIVE LANGE AND/OR DETECTIVE PHILLIPS ARRIVED AT THE -- I'M SORRY, DETECTIVE VANNATTER ARRIVED AT THE ROCKINGHAM LOCATION?
THEY ARRIVED APPROXIMATELY TEN MINUTES AFTER 5:00, TWENTY MINUTES AFTER 5:00, RIGHT IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
BY MS. LEWIS: NOW, HOW DID IT COME ABOUT THAT THIS PARTICULAR VIDEOTAPE WAS SHOT? YOU WERE IN CHARGE OF THE SEARCH WARRANT EXCUSE THERE AT THE CRIME SCENE. DID SOMEONE GIVE YOU THAT IDEA AT SOME POINT IN TIME?
OBJECT TO THE FORM OF THAT QUESTION, YOUR HONOR, HOW DID IT COME ABOUT. VERY LONG AND VAGUE, UNINTELLIGIBLE.
DETECTIVE HARPER APPROACHED ME AFTER HIS ARRIVAL AND SUGGESTED THAT WE VIDEOTAPE THE VALUABLES IN THE RESIDENCE AND I AGREED.
THE PURPOSE WAS STRICTLY FOR CIVIL LITIGATION. WE KNEW THAT MR. SIMPSON HAD QUITE A FEW VALUABLE AND PERSONAL ARTICLES THAT HE HAD WON THROUGHOUT THE YEARS, AND WE CERTAINLY DIDN'T WANT TO BE ACCUSED AT A LATER DATE FOR EITHER BREAKING THEM UP OR STEALING THEM OR WHATEVER.
KEY QUOTESO WERE YOU THE PERSON WHO ACTUALLY MADE THE DECISION TO HAVE THAT DONE, TO HAVE THE VIDEO -- THE SCENE VIDEOTAPED?
AND DID YOU DIRECT DETECTIVE HARPER, OR HARO OR SOMEONE ELSE, TO CALL SID AND HAVE SOMEONE COME OUT FOR THAT PURPOSE?
AND IN FACT IN TERMS OF YOUR CONCERN THAT THE CRIME SCENE NOT SUSTAIN DAMAGE WHEN THE SEARCH WARRANT WAS EXECUTED, DID YOU ENSURE THAT SOMETHING WAS DONE WITH REGARD TO THE VANITY IN THE MASTER BEDROOM AND FINGERPRINT DUST?
YES, MA'AM. THE VANITY -- WELL, NOT THE VANITY. YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE LINEN CLOSET, I BELIEVE.
WAS THERE A OCCASION WHERE NEWSPAPERS WERE PLACED TO ENSURE THAT THE DUST DID NOT HURT THE CARPETING?
YES, MA'AM. IT WAS A LINEN CLOSET OR A CABINET AT THE TOP OF THE STAIRS THAT PRIOR TO BEING FINGERPRINTED I REQUESTED THAT NEWSPAPER BE PUT ON THE GROUND SO AS NOT TO DAMAGE THE CARPET.
IS THERE ANYTHING SHOWN ON THE VIDEOTAPE, ANY AREA, AS BEST YOU CAN RECALL, THAT IS NOT ALSO SHOWN ON THE PHOTOGRAPHS THEMSELVES?
AFTER THE VIDEOTAPE WAS COMPLETED, WAS THERE A TIME WHEN YOU PERSONALLY OBTAINED POSSESSION OF IT AGAIN OR I SHOULD SAY FOR THE FIRST TIME WHEN YOU PERSONALLY GOT THE TAPE?
I WENT UPSTAIRS TO THE ELECTRONIC SECTION, VIEWED IT, AND RETURNED DOWN TO THE OFFICE TO PREPARE MY EMPLOYEE REPORT REGARDING THE SEARCH, AND I WAS INFORMED THAT IT WASN'T NECESSARY BASED ON THE FACT THAT THE CAPTAIN HAD BEEN AT THE SCENE.
NO, AN EMPLOYEE REPORT REGARDING THE EXECUTION OF THE WARRANT AND HOW THE PREMISES WAS -- WERE BEFORE WE ARRIVED, AS WELL AS HOW THEY WERE LEFT.
A COUPLE OF MINUTES AGO YOU INFORMED DEFENSE COUNSEL THAT THERE WERE FIVE DETECTIVES AT THE SCENE, TO THE BEST OF YOUR RECOLLECTION. DO YOU RECALL WHEN CAPTAIN GARTLAND WAS THERE?
HE WAS THERE AFTER I LEFT AND I BELIEVE COUNSEL IS MAKING REFERENCE TO WHO WAS PRESENT DURING THE TAPING OF THE RESIDENCE.
NOW, WHERE DID YOU PLACE THE VIDEOTAPE AFTER TAKING POSSESSION OF IT IN THE 14TH -- ON THE 14TH?
DID THERE COME A POINT IN TIME WHEN YOU MOVED IT TO THE ROOM AT RHD WHICH WAS SET ASIDE FOR THE SIMPSON CASE?
IT WAS PLACED IN A FILING CABINET, A LOCKING FILE CABINET, ALONG WITH SEVERAL NOTEBOOKS THAT I HAD IN MY POSSESSION.
UMM, HAVE YOU BEEN PRIMARILY INVOLVED SINCE THE TIME OF THE EXECUTION OF THAT SEARCH WARRANT, PRIMARILY INVOLVED WITH A CERTAIN ASPECT OF THE INVESTIGATION OF CLUES AND OTHER ITEMS RELATED TO THIS CASE?
AND HAVE YOU MADE SEVERAL OR NUMEROUS TRIPS TO CHICAGO OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS?
OBJECT TO THE FORM OF THE QUESTION. WE CAN'T TELL WHAT THE ANSWER IS, SEVERAL OR NUMEROUS.
BY MS. LEWIS: ROUGHLY HOW MANY TIMES HAVE YOU BEEN TO CHICAGO AS PART OF THE INVESTIGATION IN THIS CASE?
AND IN ADDITION TO THE SIMPSON CASE, HAVE YOU HAD OTHER MURDER CASES WHICH YOU HAVE BEEN RESPONSIBLE FOR INVESTIGATING AND SOLVING?
AND DID -- IN TERMS OF WHEN THE MURDERS OCCURRED, HOW MANY OF THOSE -- IN HOW MANY OF THOSE DID THE MURDERS OCCUR PRIOR TO THE MURDERS HERE ON JUNE 12TH?
SO THREE OF THE FOUR WERE MURDER CASES WHICH CAME INTO EXISTENCE AFTER THE MURDERS IN THIS CASE; IS THAT RIGHT?
THREE OF THE MURDERS OCCURRED AND ONE CAME INTO EXISTENCE OR ONE MURDER OCCURRED, I SHOULD SAY, AFTER THE MURDERS IN THIS CASE?
AND HAVE ANY OF THOSE FOUR CASES BEEN COMPLETED IN TERMS OF THROUGH CONVICTION OR ACQUITTAL OR SOME FINAL DISPOSITION?
BY MS. LEWIS: SO YOU HAVE -- IS IT FAIR TO SAY THAT YOU HAVE BEEN WORKING VERY HARD, NOT ONLY ON THE SIMPSON CASE, BUT ON OTHER MURDER CASES AS WELL?
DID THERE COME A POINT IN TIME WHEN YOU RECALLED THE EXISTENCE OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE CIVIL LIABILITY VIDEOTAPE?
BY MS. LEWIS: AND I THINK YOU TOLD US FRIDAY, UNDER MR. COCHRAN'S QUESTIONING, THAT DETECTIVE VANNATTER ALERTED YOU THAT YOU WOULD BE TESTIFYING WITH REGARD TO THE SEARCH IN THIS CASE; IS THAT RIGHT?
AND SUBSEQUENT TO THAT YOU STARTED TO THINK OF CRIME SCENE PHOTOS AND ANYTHING ELSE THAT MIGHT BE AROUND IN THAT REGARD; IS THAT CORRECT?
AND WAS YOUR PURPOSE IN DOING THAT THINKING OF AIDS THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL IN REFRESHING YOUR RECOLLECTION OF THE EVENTS THAT TRANSPIRED DURING THE EXECUTION OF THE SEARCH WARRANT ON THE 13TH?
AND IS THAT -- APPROXIMATELY AT SOME POINT AFTER THAT, IS THAT WHEN YOU THOUGHT OF THIS VIDEOTAPE AS WELL?
NOW, WHEN YOU THOUGHT OF IT, WHEN DID YOU -- OR WHAT DID YOU DO IN TERMS OF GOING LOOKING FOR THE VIDEOTAPE?
WELL, THE FIRST PLACE I WENT TO IS THE SID ELECTRONICS LAB FIGURING THAT IT HAD BEEN BOOKED; HOWEVER, I FOUND THAT IT HAD NOT BEEN BOOKED. THEN I REMEMBERED THAT I HAD SEEN IT IN THE FILING CABINET, ALONG WITH SEVERAL OTHER NOTEBOOKS, EARLY ON IN -- EARLY ON IN THE YEAR, SO I WENT UP THERE AND THERE IT WAS.
KEY QUOTESO IT WAS IN THE IDENTICAL LOCATION WHERE YOU HAD LEFT IT ON JUNE -- WELL, AT SOME POINT WHEN YOU MOVED IT INTO THE WAR ROOM?
SO IT APPEARED THAT NO ONE ELSE HAD MOVED IT OR CERTAINLY IT DID NOT APPEAR TO HAVE BEEN MOVED AT ALL WITHIN THAT FILE CABINET? IS THAT ACCURATE?
BY MS. LEWIS: YOU INDICATED FRIDAY THAT YOU -- THAT SOMEONE NOTIFIED THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE OF THE EXISTENCE OF THE TAPE?
BY MS. LEWIS: IS THE -- I'M SURE THE COURT KNOWS THIS, BUT FOR THE RECORD, IS THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE -- DO THE CITY ATTORNEYS REPRESENT THE DEPARTMENT WHEN IT IS SUED FOR THINGS SUCH AS DESTRUCTION OF PROPERTY DURING SEARCH WARRANTS?
BY MS. LEWIS: DETECTIVE LUPER, WHY DIDN'T YOU HAVE THE VIDEOGRAPHER RECORD THE GLOVE ALONG THE SOUTH SIDE OF ROCKINGHAM?
WELL, THE PURPOSE OF THE -- OF THE TAPE WAS NOT TO RECORD WHERE EVIDENCE WAS LOCATED. IT WASN'T A CRIME SCENE, PER SE, TAPE. IF IT HAD BEEN, WE WOULD HAVE BEEN RECORDING THE INSIDE OF THE BRONCO AND OTHER AREAS AND JUST THAT WASN'T THE PURPOSE OF IT.
YOUR HONOR, MOVE TO STRIKE THAT LAST QUESTION AND ANSWER. THE EVIDENCE -- ASSUMES A FACT NOT IN EVIDENCE. THE COURT WAS WELL AWARE THAT GLOVE HAD BEEN REMOVED EARLIER THAT MORNING.
NOW, DID YOU NOTICE THAT APPARENTLY A COUPLE OF BLOOD DROPS ON THE FOYER OF THE INTERIOR OF THE HOUSE WERE VIDEOTAPED?
AND DID YOU NOTICE THAT THE WOOD WHERE THOSE DROPS APPEAR ALSO APPEARS TO BE LIGHT-COLORED WOOD?
SO THOSE BLOOD DROPS WOULD REPRESENT, IN ADDITION TO PERHAPS CRIME SCENE PURPOSES, DAMAGE TO THE PROPERTY, WHETHER CAUSED BY LAPD OR SOMEONE ELSE, BUT THEY WOULD REPRESENT SOME MINOR AMOUNT OF DAMAGE; IS THAT CORRECT?
I RETURNED IT TO AS CLOSE AS THE WAY I HAD FOUND IT, MAYBE A LITTLE BETTER.
THE PURPOSE WAS STRICTLY FOR CIVIL LITIGATION. WE KNEW THAT MR. SIMPSON HAD QUITE A FEW VALUABLE AND PERSONAL ARTICLES THAT HE HAD WON THROUGHOUT THE YEARS, AND WE CERTAINLY DIDN'T WANT TO BE ACCUSED AT A LATER DATE FOR EITHER BREAKING THEM UP OR STEALING THEM OR WHATEVER.
IT WAS PRIOR TO THE SHOOTING OF THE VIDEOTAPE, ANYWHERE FROM 2:30 TO 4:15, I WOULD SAY.
THE FIRST PLACE I WENT TO IS THE SID ELECTRONICS LAB FIGURING THAT IT HAD BEEN BOOKED; HOWEVER, I FOUND THAT IT HAD NOT BEEN BOOKED.