📄 Redirect examination of William Bodziak (2 of 2) — Thursday, January 16, 1997
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Redirect examination of William Bodziak (2 of 2)

Witness: William Bodziak
Examiner: Daniel Petrocelli
Called by: Plaintiff • Date: Thursday, January 16, 1997 • Utterances: 51
Medvene briefly redirected Bodziak to confirm that the Scull and Flammer photographs both depict Bruno Magli Lorenzo shoes with identical characteristics, with no observed differences. The proceeding expanded well beyond the redirect: both sides then rested (plaintiffs their rebuttal, defense its case), several exhibits were admitted, and the defense read a stipulation that criminalist Gary Sims' blood test on Item 11 from the Rockingham walkway was negative. Judge Fujisaki dismissed the jury until Tuesday for closing arguments, with the case expected to go to the jury Thursday.
1 A:

Question.

MR. P. BAKER: Nothing further. REDIRECT EXAMINATION BY MR. MEDVENE:

2 Q:

Counsel asked you about the Scull and the Flammer photos, and whether you were asked to compare them. You've seen, of course, the Scull photos and the Flammer photos?

3 A:

Yes, I have.

4 Q:

Do you have an opinion whether or not those photos have the same characteristics?

5 A:

They do.

MR. P. BAKER: Beyond the scope, in light of his testimony.

6 MR. MEDVENE:

He opened it.

7 THE COURT:

I don't think so. Overruled.

8 WILLIAM BODZIAK:

May I answer?

9 THE COURT:

Yes, you may.

10 A:

Yes; the characteristics would be what I have described. The characteristics of the sole and upper, and inasmuch as both of them are Lorenzo -- Bruno Magli Lorenzo shoes, of course, the characteristics would be the same.

11 Q:

(BY MR.

MR. MEDVENE) Let's step back for a moment and take a section. When you say "characteristics," when you use that language in your report, what that does that mean?

12 A:

It means the characteristics that all shoes of a particular brand and style would share.

13 Q:

In terms of characteristics, you say they have the same characteristics, which means what?

14 A:

The shoes in the Scull photographs and the Flammer photographs are Bruno Magli Lorenzo shoes, which are black.

KEY QUOTE
15 Q:

All right, sir. Next, are there specific characteristics that the shoes share?

16 A:

Yes, there are.

17 Q:

Okay. Could you explain to me what you observed in that regard? Or, let me ask it this way, just to move it along: Did you observe any differences in the specific characteristics that you identified in the Scull photo, from those characteristics you were able to identify in the Flammer photos?

18 A:

No, I didn't observe any differences, or I wouldn't have reached the conclusion I reached.

KEY QUOTE
19 MR. MEDVENE:

All right, sir. I have nothing further. Thank you.

MR. P. BAKER: Nothing.

20 MR. LEONARD:

Nothing further.

21 THE COURT:

You may step down.

22 MR. LEONARD:

Can I approach?

23 THE COURT:

Wait a minute. Are you done?

24 MR. MEDVENE:

Yes, sir.

25

THE COURT: Okay. Ladies and gentlemen, we're going to take a brief recess. Don't talk about the case. Don't form or express any opinion. You may step down. (Recess.) (Jurors resume their respective seats.)

26 MR. MEDVENE:

If the Court please, we move in Exhibits 2407, 2408.

27 THE COURT:

Received. (The instrument previously marked as Plaintiffs' Exhibit 2407 was received in evidence.) (The instrument previously marked as Plaintiffs' Exhibit 2408 was received in evidence.)

28 MR. PETROCELLI:

Your Honor, we have a stipulation with the defense that Exhibit 821 may be received. It is a video dated June 28, 1994, about which there was some prior testimony. So there's a stipulation to that effect.

29 THE COURT:

All right. (The instrument previously marked as Plaintiffs' Exhibit 821 for identification was received in evidence.)

30 MR. PETROCELLI:

All right. And at this point, the plaintiffs' rest their rebuttal case.

MR. P. BAKER: The defense is going to read a stipulation to the jury.

MR. P. BAKER: All parties stipulate that criminalist Gary Sims of the California Department of Justice, were he to return to testify in this trial, would testify under oath that at the request of the prosecutors in the criminal case, he performed a presumptive blood test on Item No. 11, a stain collected on the southern walkway of 360 North Rockingham, and that test was negative for the presence of blood.

31 MR. BAKER:

Your Honor, I don't know. I've been here 50 days, I'm gone two hours --

32 THE COURT:

Well, never turn your back.

33 MR. BAKER:

-- and I don't understand what happened. (Laughter.)

34 MR. BAKER:

The defense rests, Your Honor.

35 THE COURT:

Thank you very much. Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes the evidence in this case. It's our plan to go over the jury instructions, that is, the law that the Court will be giving to you tomorrow. And then the Court will be going over those instructions with the attorneys. And then next Monday is a legal holiday, court holiday, and the court will be dark. Tuesday, we will commence with closing argument. And it's anticipated by the attorneys that the Court will be able to give you the case Thursday. Meanwhile, having come this far, I request of you and order you to continue your diligence and not permit yourselves to be influenced by anything outside of this courtroom. Don't watch anything on television. Don't listen to anything on the radio. Don't read anything in any of the written publications. Don't go to the computer websites. Don't permit anyone, friends, relatives, or any other persons, to attempt to communicate with you with regards to any matter connected with this case. Has everybody been complying with the Court's order? JURORS: Yes.

36 THE COURT:

Please continue to do so. We shall have you back here Tuesday morning then, at 8:30. Have a nice long weekend. JURORS: Thank you.

37 THE COURT:

You're excused.

38 MR. PETROCELLI:

They're not clear whether they have to return tomorrow.

39 THE COURT:

No. Tomorrow the -- The Court, that is myself, and the attorneys, will be going over the legal issues and you will not have to be here. So you will not be here until next Tuesday. Okay? JURORS: All right.

40

THE COURT: Thank you. JURORS: Thank you. (Jurors exit courtroom.) (The following proceedings were held in open court, outside the presence of the jury.)

41 THE COURT:

Do we have the jury instructions?

42 THE CLERK:

We don't.

43 THE COURT:

We don't.

44 MR. GELBLUM:

We discussed -- Mr. Baker and I discussed earlier that we would meet here at 9 O'clock tomorrow morning and speak this afternoon, too, if possible.

45 THE COURT:

All right. May I do this then. I will direct counsel to meet and confer on jury instructions and set in different piles those instructions that you agree on and those that you do not agree on, and any special instructions.

46 MR. GELBLUM:

We thought we'd be able to begin discussion with, Your Honor, about 10 o'clock tomorrow.

47 THE COURT:

That would be fine.

48 MR. BAKER:

Thank you.

49 MR. BREWER:

Thank you.

50 MR. PETROCELLI:

Your Honor, thank you very much.

51 MR. KELLY:

Thank you, Your Honor. (At 3:30 P.M. an adjournment was taken until Friday, January 17, 1997 at 10 A.M.)

Temperature

procedural

Key Quotes (4)

William Bodziak
The shoes in the Scull photographs and the Flammer photographs are Bruno Magli Lorenzo shoes, which are black.
Confirms the core conclusion linking both photo sets to the same shoe model worn by OJ Simpson.
William Bodziak
No, I didn't observe any differences, or I wouldn't have reached the conclusion I reached.
Clean, confident summary of his expert opinion — no inconsistencies between the two photo sets.
P. Baker
I've been here 50 days, I'm gone two hours — and I don't understand what happened.
Comedic aside after returning to find the plaintiffs had rested their rebuttal case; drew laughter.
P. Baker (stipulation read aloud)
He performed a presumptive blood test on Item No. 11, a stain collected on the southern walkway of 360 North Rockingham, and that test was negative for the presence of blood.
Final piece of defense evidence — a Gary Sims result showing no blood at a key Rockingham location, inserted as the defense rested.

Evidence (5)

Plaintiffs' 2407
Unspecified exhibit admitted at close of rebuttal
admitted into evidence
Plaintiffs' 2408
Unspecified exhibit admitted at close of rebuttal
admitted into evidence
Plaintiffs' 821
Video dated June 28, 1994, admitted by stipulation
admitted into evidence by stipulation
Item No. 11
Stain collected on the southern walkway of 360 North Rockingham; Gary Sims' presumptive blood test returned negative
referenced in defense stipulation read to jury
Informal
Scull and Flammer photographs of Bruno Magli Lorenzo shoes
discussed during redirect — Bodziak confirmed identical characteristics

Notable Exchanges (3)

P. BakerMedveneJudge Fujisaki
Baker objected to the Scull/Flammer comparison question as beyond the scope of redirect; Medvene argued Baker opened it on cross; court overruled without elaboration.
routine/strategic
PetrocelliJudge Fujisaki
Petrocelli announced plaintiffs rest their rebuttal case and moved in three exhibits, including a stipulated video.
procedural
Judge FujisakiJurors
Judge instructed jury they would not return until Tuesday for closing arguments, with the case expected to go to them Thursday; jurors confirmed compliance with sequestration orders.
procedural

Light Moments (1)

P. Baker / Judge Fujisaki
Baker returned after a two-hour absence to find the case had moved dramatically — plaintiffs rested, exhibits admitted — and quipped he'd been there 50 days and left for two hours and didn't understand what happened. The court responded 'Well, never turn your back,' drawing laughter.

Objections

1 objections (0 sustained, 1 overruled)
Proceeding 8821 • 51 utterances • Plaintiff witness
Civil Trial
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