📄 Re-redirect examination of John Gerdes — Thursday, December 12, 1996
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Re-redirect examination of John Gerdes

Witness: Dr. John Gerdes
Examiner: Robert Blasier
Called by: Defense • Date: Thursday, December 12, 1996 • Lines: 29
Robert Blasier conducted a brief recross of Dr. Gerdes, establishing that Gerdes does not test crime-scene evidence himself, unlike Cotton and Sims, and clarifying that control sample 52 was noted as 'pink' and that Gerdes believed the Bundy driveway had pink coloration. Blasier closed with questions about Gerdes's compensation, eliciting that Gerdes personally received none and that his laboratory had received approximately $40,000 across both cases.
1 Q:

You will acknowledge that Robin Cotton and Gary Sims are forensic scientists?

2 A:

Yes.

3 Q:

An they do, every day, test evidence from crime scenes, correct?

4 A:

They -- they test the evidence; they don't collect the evidence.

KEY QUOTE
5 Q:

They test it?

6 A:

Yes.

7 Q:

You never test evidence at crime scenes?

8 A:

That's true.

9 Q:

Now, you were asked by Mr. Blasier whether any of these controls were dirty, and said you didn't know, right?

Let's look at the very first control, the one I've been asking you all the questions about. Number 52 control.

Here's Collin Yamauchi's notes.

Move them over a little bit.

See what it says right there? What's that say?

10 A:

Is says "pink."

11 Q:

Pink color, right?

12 A:

Yes.

13 Q:

That was taken from the driveway at the back of the Bundy residence, wasn't it?

14 A:

Yes.

15 (Plaintiffs' Exhibit 333 displayed on the Elmo screen.)
16 Q:

That driveway has got a pink coloration to it, doesn't it, Doctor?

17 A:

I believe it does.

18 Q:

Dr. Gerdes, how much has Mr. Simpson paid you already, thirty, forty thousand dollars?

19 MR. BLASIER:

Objection.

20 A:

In this civil case?

21 Q:

Total.

22 A:

For both cases?

23 Q:

Yeah.

24 MR. BLASIER:

Objection. Irrelevant; outside the scope.

25 THE COURT:

Overruled.

26 A:

I am not -- my laboratory has a policy of basically any consulting fees go to the laboratory. I've received zero.

KEY QUOTE
27 Q:

How much has the lab received?

28 A:

Somewhere around forty thousand, probably.

29 MR. LAMBERT:

No further questions, Doctor.

FURTHER REDIRECT EXAMINATION BY MR. BLASIER:

Temperature

tense

Key Quotes (3)

Witness
I am not -- my laboratory has a policy of basically any consulting fees go to the laboratory. I've received zero.
Gerdes distances himself personally from the money while still acknowledging his lab received ~$40,000 from Simpson's defense.
Witness
They -- they test the evidence; they don't collect the evidence.
Gerdes distinguishes testing evidence from collecting it after acknowledging that Cotton and Sims are forensic scientists.
Witness
Is says 'pink.'
Gerdes confirmed that Yamauchi's notation was 'pink' and said he believed the Bundy driveway had pink coloration.

Evidence (1)

Plaintiffs' Exhibit 333
Collin Yamauchi's lab notes showing control sample 52 labeled 'pink', taken from the Bundy driveway
displayed on the Elmo screen during questions about control 52 and the notation 'pink'

Notable Exchanges (2)

Robert BlasierDr. Gerdes
Blasier had Gerdes read Yamauchi's notation for control 52 as 'pink' and say that he believed the Bundy driveway had pink coloration.
technical
Robert BlasierDr. Gerdes
Blasier asked how much Simpson had paid Gerdes; Gerdes distinguished his personal receipts from the approximately $40,000 received by his laboratory.
pointed

Credibility Attacks (2)

⚔ Dr. Gerdes
bias/financial interest
Blasier pursued a bias or financial-interest line of questioning that established Gerdes's laboratory had received approximately $40,000 in consulting fees across both cases.
⚔ Dr. Gerdes
document-based clarification
Blasier used Yamauchi's notes (Exhibit 333) in questioning about control 52; Gerdes read the notation as 'pink' and said he believed the Bundy driveway had pink coloration.

Objections

2 objections (0 sustained, 1 overruled)
Proceeding 8644 • 29 lines • Defense witness
Civil Trial
Department 103
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