📄 Redirect examination of Gary Sims — Tuesday, June 20, 1995
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Redirect examination of Gary Sims

Witness: Gary Sims
Examiner: Rockne Harmon
Called by: Prosecution • Date: Tuesday, June 20, 1995 • Utterances: 16
Harmon conducts a brief redirect of DNA analyst Gary Sims to rehabilitate testimony about the rear gate blood stains. He clarifies that while Sims saw no bacterial degradation (which Scheck had emphasized), the stains did show natural degradation consistent with time and environmental exposure — undercutting the defense implication that the blood was planted recently.
1 THE COURT:

Mr. Harmon.

2 MR. HARMON:

Just a few questions.

REDIRECT EXAMINATION BY MR. HARMON

3 MR. HARMON:

Mr. Sims, just to take on that last question--

4 THE COURT:

Mr. Harmon, you need to do your questioning on the other side of the monster there.

5 MR. HARMON:

Sure.

6 MR. HARMON:

Were there signs of degradation on any of those rear gate stains?

7 MR. SIMS:

The yield gel patterns did not show the type of bacterial degradation that I talked about, although you can see from the photograph that the DNA is starting to degrade a little bit. It is--it is not pristine DNA. In other words, it is showing some of this pattern whereby there is a high band and then it is starting to show a little smearing below that.

KEY QUOTE
8 MR. HARMON:

And time causes that to happen?

9 MR. SIMS:

Yes, it does.

10 MR. HARMON:

Environment?

11 MR. SIMS:

Yes.

12 MR. HARMON:

Mr. Scheck kept asking you about the significant bacterial degradation with respect to the rear gate. You said you saw none of that?

13 MR. SIMS:

That's correct.

14 MR. HARMON:

But you did see signs of degradation that you know are caused by time?

15 MR. SIMS:

Yes, and exposure is the way I would put that.

KEY QUOTE
16 MR. HARMON:

Okay. Thanks.

Temperature

procedural

Key Quotes (2)

Gary Sims
The yield gel patterns did not show the type of bacterial degradation that I talked about, although you can see from the photograph that the DNA is starting to degrade a little bit. It is not pristine DNA.
Sims draws a critical distinction: no bacterial degradation, but natural aging degradation is present — directly countering the defense's planted-blood theory.
Gary Sims
Yes, and exposure is the way I would put that.
Sims affirms that time and environmental exposure — not tampering — explain the degradation pattern, consistent with authentic evidence.

Evidence (1)

Informal
Rear gate blood stains and yield gel patterns/photographs showing DNA degradation
discussed

Notable Exchanges (1)

Lance A. ItoRockne Harmon
Ito instructs Harmon to move to the other side of the ELMO/display equipment before questioning begins.
procedural

Light Moments (1)

Lance A. Ito
Ito refers to the display equipment as 'the monster there,' drawing a mild laugh from the courtroom.

Objections

None recorded
Proceeding 6467 • 16 utterances • Prosecution witness
Criminal Trial
Department 103
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📂 JUN 20, 1995 📄 Redirect examination of Gary S
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