📄 Redirect examination of Allan Park — Tuesday, July 5, 1994
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▲ Day 3 of 6

Redirect examination of Allan Park

Witness: Allan Park
Examiner: Marcia Clark
Called by: Prosecution • Date: Tuesday, July 5, 1994 • Utterances: 497
Robert Shapiro cross-examines limo driver Allan Park, systematically attacking his credibility through prior inconsistent statements. The central revelation is that Park told Shapiro and Skip Taft on June 14 (in a recorded phone call) that he could not determine whether the figure he saw entering the Rockingham estate was male or female — yet at the grand jury he identified a 'black male.' Shapiro also surfaces that Park omitted the black overcoat detail on direct, and that virtually all his times are approximations.
1 THE COURT:

Mr. Shapiro, do you wish to cross-examine at this time?

2 MR. SHAPIRO:

Yes. Thank you very much, Your Honor.

3

CROSS-EXAMINATION

4

BY MR. SHAPIRO:

5 Q:

Good morning, Mr. Park.

6 A:

Good morning.

7 Q:

Mr. Park, you understand the serious nature --

8 MS. CLARK:

Objection; Your Honor.

9 THE COURT:

The legal grounds for your objection?

10 MS. CLARK:

It's argumentative.

11 THE COURT:

I haven't yet even heard the entire question. Do you want to finish your question, Mr. Shapiro?

12 MR. SHAPIRO:

Yes, I would like to. Thank you.

13

BY MR. SHAPIRO:

14 Q:

Do you understand the serious nature for which you are testifying here today?

15 MS. CLARK:

Objection, Your Honor.

16 THE COURT:

And your objection is it's argumentative?

17 MS. CLARK:

Yes, Your Honor.

18 THE COURT:

OVERRULED.

19 MS. CLARK:

WHY WOULD MR. SHAPIRO ASSUME THAT HE DOES NOT UNDERSTAND THE SERIOUSNESS OF THE CHARGES? THERE HAS BEEN NO INDICATION OF THAT.

20 THE COURT:

YOU CAN ANSWER THE QUESTION, SIR.

21 ALLAN PARK:

I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU MEAN. THE SERIOUSNESS OF ME TESTIFYING?

22

BY MR. SHAPIRO:

23 Q:

DO YOU KNOW WHAT THIS MATTER CONCERNS THAT YOU ARE TESTIFYING TO?

24 A:

YES.

25 Q:

WHAT DOES IT CONCERN?

26 A:

IT CONCERNS A MURDER TRIAL.

27 Q:

AND THEREFORE, YOU WANT TO BE VERY CAREFUL WITH YOUR TESTIMONY TO MAKE SURE YOU DON'T MAKE ANY ERRORS; IS THAT CORRECT?

28 A:

YES.

29 Q:

AND YOU WANT TO BE VERY SURE, EVERY TIME YOU TESTIFY UNDER OATH, THAT YOU DO NOT MAKE ANY ERRORS; IS THAT CORRECT?

30 MS. CLARK:

SAME OBJECTION, YOUR HONOR. NO OTHER WITNESS HAS BEEN SUBJECTED TO THIS KIND OF INTIMIDATION. THIS IS HIGHLY INAPPROPRIATE. THERE HAS BEEN NOTHING TO INDICATE THIS WITNESS DOES NOT TAKE HIS OATH VERY SERIOUSLY AND IS TESTIFYING AS ACCURATELY AS HE CAN.

31 THE COURT:

THE OBJECTION IS OVERRULED.

32 MR. SHAPIRO:

YOU MAY ANSWER THE QUESTION, SIR.

33 ALLAN PARK:

CAN YOU REPEAT IT?

34

BY MR. SHAPIRO:

35 Q:

YOU UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN YOU TESTIFY UNDER OATH, THAT THERE IS AN OBLIGATION TO TELL THE TRUTH?

36 A:

YES.

37 Q:

AND HAVE YOU DONE SO?

38 A:

YES.

39 Q:

HOW MANY TIMES HAVE YOU TESTIFIED UNDER OATH REGARDING THE SUBJECT MATTER THAT YOU TESTIFIED HERE TODAY TO?

40 A:

ONCE.

41 Q:

ONCE BEFORE OR ONLY ONCE?

42 A:

I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE NATURE OF THE QUESTION.

43 Q:

HOW MANY TIMES HAVE YOU TESTIFIED UNDER OATH TO THE SUBJECT MATTER THAT YOU HAVE TESTIFIED TO IN COURT TODAY?

44 A:

ONE TIME.

45 Q:

AND THAT WAS WHEN?

46 A:

WITH THE GRAND JURY.

47 Q:

AND YOU ALSO TESTIFIED TODAY?

48 A:

YES.

49 Q:

THAT WOULD BE TWICE.

50 A:

OKAY.

51 Q:

IS THAT CORRECT?

52 A:

CORRECT.

53 Q:

OKAY. AND BEFORE THE GRAND JURY, YOU WERE UNDER OATH, WERE YOU NOT?

54 A:

YES, I WAS.

55 Q:

THAT WAS ON JUNE 21, ABOUT A WEEK AGO; IS THAT CORRECT?

56 A:

CORRECT.

57 Q:

AND WHEN YOU TESTIFIED THERE, WAS YOUR MEMORY AS TO THE EVENTS THAT YOU SAW AT THE SIMPSON RESIDENCE BETTER THAN IT WAS TODAY?

58 A:

I WOULD SAY IT IS THE SAME.

59 Q:

DID YOU TESTIFY ON PAGE 257, LINE 11 IN REGARD TO THE INDIVIDUAL YOU DESCRIBED AS A MALE OR FEMALE TODAY, "AND JUST SECONDS AFTER THAT, I SAW A BLACK MALE, SIX FOOT ONE, 100 AND -- 200 POUNDS COME FROM THE AREA THAT I SAW HIM FROM, WAS ABOUT A" -- DID YOU GIVE THAT TESTIMONY TO THE GRAND JURY, SIR?

60 A:

IF IT IS THERE, I DID.

61 Q:

WELL, DO YOU RECALL GIVING THAT TESTIMONY TO THE GRAND JURY?

62 A:

YES, I DO.

63 Q:

AND WAS THAT DISCREPANCY CALLED TO YOUR ATTENTION BY ANYONE BEFORE YOU TESTIFIED TODAY?

64 A:

I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT --

65 Q:

HAS ANYONE POINTED OUT TO YOU BEFORE YOU TESTIFIED THAT BEFORE THE GRAND JURY YOU SAID IT WAS A MALE BLACK, AND THAT TODAY YOU GAVE TESTIMONY THAT IT WAS EITHER A MALE OR FEMALE; YOU COULDN'T TELL WHICH?

66 MS. CLARK:

OBJECTION, YOUR HONOR. NOBODY HAS HAD A CHANCE TO POINT ANYTHING OUT TO HIM. HE ONLY JUST SAID IT TODAY.

67 THE COURT:

THE OBJECTION IS OVERRULED.

68 ALLAN PARK:

WELL, THE ONLY THING THAT I CAN SAY HERE IS THAT THE PERSON THAT I DESCRIBED IS SIX -- SIX FOOT, 200 POUNDS. IT JUST SEEMS TO BE A PRETTY BIG FEMALE.

KEY QUOTE
69

BY MR. SHAPIRO:

70 Q:

THAT WASN'T MY QUESTION, SIR. DID ANYONE DISCUSS WITH YOU THE FACT THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE, ON ANOTHER OCCASION, SAID IT WAS EITHER A MALE OR A FEMALE; YOU COULDN'T TELL WHICH?

71 A:

YES.

72 Q:

WHO POINTED THAT OUT TO YOU?

73 A:

WHO POINTED WHAT OUT?

74 Q:

YOU TESTIFIED AT THE GRAND JURY THAT IT WAS A MALE BLACK; IS THAT CORRECT?

75 A:

YES.

76 Q:

YOU TESTIFIED HERE TODAY THAT IT WAS A MALE OR FEMALE; YOU COULDN'T TELL WHICH; IS THAT CORRECT?

77 A:

YES.

78 Q:

PRIOR TO YOUR TESTIMONY TODAY, HAS ANYONE POINTED OUT THAT THERE MAY BE A DISCREPANCY IN THE TESTIMONY THAT YOU GAVE AT THE GRAND JURY AND THE TESTIMONY THAT YOU WERE GOING TO GIVE TODAY?

79 A:

NO.

80 Q:

DID YOU EVER DESCRIBE THE PERSON AS SIX FEET, 180 POUNDS?

81 A:

NOT THAT I REMEMBER.

82 Q:

DID YOU EVER DESCRIBE THE OTHER INDIVIDUAL AS FIVE TEN, 160 POUNDS?

83 A:

I COULD HAVE.

84 Q:

DID YOU EVER DESCRIBE MR. SIMPSON AS COMING OUT OF THE HOUSE WEARING A BLACK OVERCOAT?

85 MS. CLARK:

OBJECTION. VAGUE AS TO TIME.

86 THE COURT:

OVERRULED.

87 ALLAN PARK:

YES, I DID.

88 THE COURT:

YOU CAN ANSWER THE QUESTION.

89 ALLAN PARK:

I REMEMBER HIM WEARING SOME KIND OF A COAT.

90

BY MR. SHAPIRO:

91 Q:

DID YOU EVER TELL ANYONE THAT THE PERSON WHO CAME OUT WAS WEARING AN OVERCOAT, A BLACK OVERCOAT?

92 A:

YES, I DID.

93 Q:

WHY DIDN'T YOU SAY THAT WHEN MISS CLARK ASKED YOU HOW THE MAN WAS DRESSED THIS MORNING?

94 A:

I GUESS I JUST DIDN'T GIVE FULL DETAIL.

95 Q:

DID YOU SAY THAT TO THE GRAND JURY, THAT THE MAN WAS WEARING AN OVERCOAT?

96 A:

I DON'T REMEMBER.

97 Q:

DID YOU READ YOUR GRAND JURY TESTIMONY BEFORE YOU TESTIFIED HERE?

98 A:

NO, I DIDN'T. NO, I DIDN'T.

99 Q:

WAS IT SHOWN TO YOU BY ANYONE?

100 A:

NO, IT WASN'T.

101 Q:

DID YOU DISCUSS YOUR TESTIMONY BEFORE YOU TESTIFIED HERE TODAY WITH ANYONE?

102 A:

YES. MY MOM.

103 Q:

OTHER THAN YOUR MOTHER, DID YOU DISCUSS IT WITH ANYONE ELSE?

104 A:

MY BOSS.

105 Q:

OTHER THAN -- WHO IS YOUR BOSS?

106 A:

DALE ST. JOHN OF TOWN AND COUNTRY LIMO.

107 Q:

WHEN DID YOU DISCUSS IT WITH HIM?

108 A:

DAYS AFTER.

109 Q:

WHEN DID YOU DISCUSS IT WITH YOUR MOTHER?

110 A:

JUST A FEW DAYS AFTER.

111 Q:

HAVE YOU DISCUSSED IT WITH ANYONE ELSE?

112 A:

THE POLICE.

113 Q:

HOW MANY TIMES DID YOU DISCUSS IT WITH THE POLICE?

114 A:

I WAS INTERVIEWED ONCE, BUT THERE WAS PHONE CALLS FOR OTHER QUESTIONS HERE AND THERE.

115 Q:

DID YOU RECEIVE THE PHONE CALLS FIRST OR THE INTERVIEW FIRST?

116 A:

WELL, THEY CALLED ME AND JUST ASKED ME TO COME OUT.

117 Q:

SO YOU DIDN'T DISCUSS ANYTHING ON THE PHONE?

118 A:

NO.

119 Q:

DO YOU RECALL WHAT DATE YOU WENT DOWN?

120 A:

THE 15TH OF --

121 Q:

WHERE DID YOU GO?

122 A:

TO THE HARBOR DISTRICT, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THERE IN SAN PEDRO.

123 Q:

WHAT TIME DID YOU ARRIVE THERE?

124 A:

9:30, 9:00 O'CLOCK.

125 Q:

TO WHOM DID YOU SPEAK?

126 A:

TO PAUL TIPPIN AND BRIAN CARR.

127 Q:

HOW LONG DID YOU SPEAK WITH THEM?

128 A:

TWO HOURS.

129 Q:

WAS THAT INTERVIEW TAPE RECORDED?

130 A:

NOT THAT I KNOW OF.

131 Q:

DID THEY HAVE YOU -- DID THEY TAKE NOTES OF YOUR CONVERSATION?

132 A:

YES, THEY DID.

133 Q:

DID THEY REDUCE THOSE NOTES TO A REPORT THAT YOU KNOW OF?

134 A:

NO.

135 Q:

DID THEY EVER HAVE YOU SIGN A STATEMENT OR A REPORT?

136 A:

NO.

137 Q:

DID YOU MEET WITH THEM AGAIN THAT DAY?

138 A:

NO, I DIDN'T.

139 Q:

DID YOU MEET WITH ANY OTHER DETECTIVES THAT DAY?

140 A:

NO.

141 Q:

IS THAT THE ONLY TIME YOU HAVE EVER MET WITH DETECTIVES?

142 A:

I MET THEM AFTER THAT.

143 Q:

WHEN DID YOU MEET AFTER THAT?

144 A:

THEY WERE AT THE GRAND JURY.

145 Q:

DID THEY TAKE YOUR STATEMENT AT THE GRAND JURY?

146 A:

NO, THEY DIDN'T.

147 Q:

SO YOU JUST SAW THEM CASUALLY AT THE GRAND JURY?

148 A:

YES.

149 Q:

SO AS FAR AS FORMAL STATEMENT INTERVIEWS TO ANY LAW-ENFORCEMENT OFFICER WHATSOEVER, YOU HAVE ONLY GIVEN ONE, AND THAT WAS ON THE 15TH?

150 A:

YES.

151 Q:

FOR TWO HOURS?

152 A:

ABOUT.

153 Q:

WAS IT BEFORE OR AFTER THAT THAT YOU TALKED TO YOUR MOTHER?

154 A:

IT WAS BEFORE.

155 Q:

HOW MUCH BEFORE?

156 A:

TUESDAY.

157 Q:

WHAT TIME DID YOU TALK TO YOUR MOTHER?

158 A:

AFTER I -- SHE WAS THERE WHEN I WAS TALKING OVER THE PHONE WITH MR. SIMPSON'S LAWYERS.

159 Q:

WHEN DID YOU TALK TO MR. SIMPSON'S LAWYERS?

160 A:

THE 14TH, I BELIEVE.

161 Q:

AND WAS THAT IN THE EVENING?

162 A:

IT WAS TOWARDS THE EVENING, YES.

163 Q:

DID YOU PLACE THE PHONE CALL?

164 A:

YES. I CALLED THEM.

165 Q:

AND DID YOU CALL AN OFFICE KNOWN AS LEROY TAFT'S OFFICE?

166 A:

I DON'T KNOW WHAT OFFICE IT WAS. I JUST CALLED THE PHONE NUMBER.

167 Q:

DID YOU SPEAK TO TWO PEOPLE WHO IDENTIFIED THEMSELVES AS LAWYERS THERE?

168 A:

YES.

169 Q:

WAS ONE MR. LEROY TAFT OR IDENTIFYING HIMSELF AS LEROY TAFT?

170 A:

LEROY TAFT?

171 Q:

SKIP TAFT?

172 A:

THAT RINGS A BELL.

173 Q:

DID THE OTHER IDENTIFY HIMSELF AS ROBERT SHAPIRO?

174 A:

I THINK IT WAS JUST BOB.

175 Q:

AND WAS THIS ON A SPEAKER PHONE?

176 A:

YES, IT WAS.

177 Q:

AND AT THIS TIME YOUR MOTHER WAS LISTENING?

178 A:

SHE WAS SITTING NEXT TO ME, YES.

179 Q:

AND THIS IS THE FIRST TIME YOU GAVE ANY STATEMENT TO ANYONE REGARDING THIS INCIDENT; IS THAT CORRECT?

180 A:

YES.

181 Q:

YES?

182 A:

YES.

183 Q:

AND HOW LONG WAS THAT STATEMENT?

184 A:

HALF AN HOUR. I DON'T KNOW.

185 Q:

HAVE YOU EVER HEARD ANY RECORDING OF THAT STATEMENT?

186 A:

HAVE I?

187 Q:

YES.

188 A:

YES, I HAVE.

189 Q:

WHEN DID YOU HEAR THAT?

190 A:

LAST FRIDAY.

191 Q:

WHERE DID YOU HEAR THAT?

192 A:

UPSTAIRS.

193 Q:

WHO PLAYED IT FOR YOU?

194 A:

THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY.

195 Q:

AND WAS IT AT THAT TIME THAT YOU REALIZED YOU MADE THE STATEMENT AND COULDN'T TELL WHETHER IT WAS A MALE OR A FEMALE?

196 A:

YES. I HEARD THAT.

197 Q:

AND DID ANYBODY POINT OUT AT THAT POINT IN TIME THAT WHEN YOU TOLD THE GRAND JURY, YOU SAID IT WAS A MALE?

198 A:

NO.

199 Q:

DID ANYONE ASK YOU IF THERE WERE ANY DISCREPANCIES IN YOUR TESTIMONY OR IN YOUR STATEMENT THAT YOU GAVE TO MYSELF AND MR. TAFT?

200 A:

NO.

201 Q:

AT THAT TIME DID YOU TELL MR. TAFT AND MYSELF THAT YOU COULDN'T TELL WHETHER OR NOT THAT PERSON COULD HAVE BEEN O.J. SIMPSON?

202 A:

REPEAT THAT.

203 Q:

DID YOU TELL MR. TAFT OR MYSELF THAT DURING THE CONVERSATION ON THE 14TH THAT THE PERSON THAT WALKED INTO THE HOUSE IN DARK CLOTHING WAS SOMEBODY; YOU COULDN'T TELL WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS O.J. SIMPSON?

204 A:

YES.

205 Q:

AND DID YOU TELL US THAT EVENING THAT AFTER YOU BUZZED THE INTERCOM, ABOUT TWO MINUTES LATER, MR. SIMPSON CAME ON?

206 A:

I DON'T RECALL.

207 Q:

AND THAT YOU COULD RECOGNIZE MR. SIMPSON'S VOICE?

208 A:

YES, I COULD RECOGNIZE HIS VOICE.

209 Q:

AND YOU ASKED HIM AT THAT TIME -- YOU TOLD HIM AT THAT TIME THAT YOU WERE THERE, AND HE SAID, "I HAVE BEEN HERE FOR A FEW MINUTES"?

210 A:

NO.

211 Q:

HE NEVER SAID THAT?

212 A:

NO.

213 Q:

DID YOU EVER SAY THAT, "I HAVE BEEN HERE FOR A FEW MINUTES"?

214 A:

I TOLD THE WHITE MALE AT THE HOME.

215 Q:

IT WAS AT THAT TIME THAT WE ASKED YOU HOW MR. SIMPSON WAS DRESSED WHEN HE CAME OUT, AND YOU SAID, "HE WAS WEARING BLUE JEANS, A WHITE SHIRT AND ANOTHER KIND OF OVERCOAT, A BLACK OVERCOAT." DO YOU RECALL THAT?

216 A:

YES.

217 Q:

WAS THAT A HEAVY OVERCOAT?

218 A:

NO.

219 Q:

DID YOU KNOW HE WAS GOING TO CHICAGO?

220 A:

YES.

221 Q:

DID YOU KNOW WHAT THE WEATHER WAS LIKE IN CHICAGO?

222 A:

I HAVE NO IDEA.

223 Q:

HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE WEIGHT OF THE OVERCOAT WAS?

224 A:

THE WEIGHT?

225 Q:

YES.

226 A:

IT JUST LOOKED THIN.

227 Q:

DID YOU EVER CARRY IT?

228 A:

NO.

229 Q:

DID YOU EVER TRY IT ON?

230 A:

NO.

231 Q:

DO YOU KNOW WHAT MATERIAL IT WAS MADE OF?

232 A:

I COULDN'T TELL YOU.

233 Q:

DO YOU KNOW IF IT HAD A LINING?

234 A:

NO.

235 Q:

DID YOU TELL US THAT WHEN YOU PULLED IN, HE ALREADY HAD A COUPLE OF BAGS ON THE PORCH?

236 A:

YES.

237 Q:

THAT HE WENT OVER TO HIS CAR AND GOT ANOTHER BAG?

238 A:

YES.

239 Q:

DID YOU SEE MR. SIMPSON WALK IN AND OUT OF THE HOUSE AT ALL?

240 A:

HE WALKED IN A COUPLE TIMES.

241 Q:

HOW MANY TIMES?

242 A:

TWO OR THREE.

243 Q:

OTHER THAN CARRYING HIS BAGS OR LUGGAGE OUT, DID YOU SEE HIM CARRYING ANYTHING ELSE OUT OF THE HOUSE?

244 A:

NO.

245 Q:

NOW, DID YOU PUT MR. SIMPSON'S BAGS IN THE TRUNK?

246 A:

SOME.

247 Q:

HOW MANY DID YOU PUT IN?

248 A:

FROM WHAT I CAN REMEMBER, THREE.

249 Q:

WHAT ABOUT THE GOLF BAG, WHERE DID THE GOLF BAG END UP?

250 A:

IN THE TRUNK.

251 Q:

WHO PUT IT THERE?

252 A:

I CAN'T REMEMBER IF IT WAS THE WHITE MALE OR MR. SIMPSON.

253 Q:

NOW, WHEN I ASKED YOU ABOUT THE PERSON THAT WAS COMING IN AND OUT OF THE HOUSE, DID YOU SAY THE FOLLOWING: "I AM GOING TO SAY HE WAS A GOOD SIX-FOOT ONE, 180 POUNDS"? DID YOU SAY THAT?

254 A:

I COULD HAVE.

255 Q:

WHAT TIME DID YOU TELL US YOU LEFT MR. SIMPSON'S HOUSE FOR THE AIRPORT?

256 A:

THE TIME I LEFT?

257 Q:

YES.

258 A:

11:15.

259 Q:

IS THAT WHAT YOU TOLD US?

260 A:

I CAN'T REMEMBER.

261 Q:

COULD YOU HAVE TOLD US A DIFFERENT TIME?

262 A:

COULD HAVE. IT WOULD HAVE BEEN RIGHT AROUND THERE.

263 Q:

WOULD IT HAVE BEEN EARLIER OR LATER?

264 A:

IT COULD HAVE BEEN EITHER ONE. I DON'T KNOW.

265 Q:

YOU ARE NOT SURE OF THESE TIMES, ARE YOU?

266 A:

I DON'T KNOW WHAT I TOLD YOU. I KNOW WHAT -- I KNOW WHAT TIME I LEFT. IT WOULD HAVE HAD TO HAVE BEEN RIGHT AROUND 11:15, TEN AFTER 11:00.

267 Q:

YOU WOULDN'T LIE TO ME WHEN I TALK TO YOU, WOULD YOU?

268 A:

NO.

269 MS. CLARK:

OBJECTION. OBJECTION. THAT WAS ARGUMENTATIVE, YOUR HONOR.

270 THE COURT:

SUSTAINED.

271

BY MR. SHAPIRO:

272 Q:

WHAT TIME DID YOU ARRIVE AT THE AIRPORT?

273 A:

ABOUT 11:35.

274 Q:

NOW, BY JUDGING THESE TIMES, WHEN DID THE TIMES BECOME IMPORTANT TO YOU?

275 A:

WHEN DID THEY BECOME IMPORTANT? THEY WEREN'T IMPORTANT TO ME THAT NIGHT. BUT I JUST WAS ON KIND OF ON A SCHEDULE, SO I DO REMEMBER TIMES.

276 Q:

WHAT WERE YOU USING TO GAUGE THE TIME?

277 A:

MY WATCH.

278 Q:

WHAT KIND OF WATCH DO YOU WEAR?

279 A:

A WRISTWATCH.

280 Q:

WELL, CAN YOU DESCRIBE A LITTLE BETTER THAN THAT?

281 A:

IT IS --

282 Q:

IS IT AN AUTOMATIC WATCH, A WINDUP WATCH?

283 A:

IT HAS GOT A BATTERY. IT IS NOT WINDUP. IT HAS GOT HANDS ON IT.

284 THE COURT:

EXCUSE ME. ARE YOU WEARING THE WATCH NOW? YOU WERE LOOKING AT YOUR WRIST.

285 ALLAN PARK:

YES.

286 THE COURT:

DO YOU WANT TO JUST HOLD THAT UP MAYBE.

287 (INDICATING)
288 THE COURT:

HE IS WEARING ON THE LEFT WRIST A WRISTWATCH OF SOME KIND.

289

BY MR. SHAPIRO:

290 Q:

WHEN IS THE LAST TIME YOU CHECKED THAT WATCH WITH SOME OFFICIAL TIME?

291 A:

I LOOK AT CLOCKS ALL THE TIME. IT SEEMS TO BE OKAY TO ME.

292 Q:

SAME TIME AS IN THE COURTROOM NOW?

293 A:

YES.

294 Q:

WHAT TIME DOES YOUR CLOCK SHOW NOW?

295 A:

IT SAYS ABOUT SIXTEEN AFTER 10:00.

296 Q:

DO YOU REMEMBER WHEN THE LAST TIME YOU SET THAT WATCH WAS?

297 A:

LAST TIME I SET IT?

298 Q:

YES.

299 A:

I JUST SET IT ON THE 1ST.

300 Q:

BECAUSE YOU CHANGED THE DATES, RIGHT?

301 A:

YES.

302 Q:

AND YOU DON'T RECALL WHEN YOU SET IT PRIOR TO THAT, DO YOU?

303 A:

NO.

304 Q:

YOU TESTIFIED THAT YOU HAVE BEEN WORKING FOR TOWN AND COUNTRY LIMOUSINE FOR THE LAST TWO AND A HALF MONTHS?

305 A:

TWO AND A HALF, THREE MONTHS, YES.

306 Q:

DID YOU TELL US YOU HAVE BEEN WORKING THERE FOR FIVE MONTHS?

307 A:

NOT THAT I REMEMBER. I MIGHT HAVE SAID I HAVE BEEN DRIVING LIMOS FOR FIVE MONTHS.

308 Q:

AND IS THAT THE CASE?

309 A:

YES.

310 Q:

DO YOU WORK FOR ANY OTHER LIMOUSINE COMPANY?

311 A:

I DIDN'T WORK FOR A COMPANY; I JUST WORK FOR A PRIVATE OWNER.

312 Q:

HOW LONG HAVE YOU WORKED FOR THAT PERSON?

313 A:

IT WAS ABOUT TWO MONTHS, TWO AND A HALF MONTHS.

314 Q:

AND THEN YOU GOT THE JOB WITH TOWN AND COUNTRY?

315 A:

YES.

316 Q:

IS THAT A FULL TIME -- WAS THAT A FULL-TIME JOB AT THE TIME?

317 A:

NO. NO.

318 Q:

AND DID YOU HAVE ANY SCHEDULED HOURS THAT YOU WORKED?

319 A:

NO.

320 Q:

WHEN DID YOU FIRST RECEIVE NOTIFICATION THAT YOU WERE GOING TO HAVE A PICK UP AT O.J. SIMPSON'S HOUSE?

321 A:

IT HAD TO HAVE BEEN SOMETIME IN THE MORNING, 10:00, 11:00, 11:00.

322 Q:

WHERE DID YOU RECEIVE THAT NOTIFICATION?

323 A:

FROM MY BOSS. HE LIVES ACROSS THE STREET.

324 Q:

DID HE JUST WALK OVER, OR DID HE CALL YOU?

325 A:

I CAN'T REMEMBER IF HE CAME OVER OR CALLED.

326 Q:

AND WHAT DID HE TELL YOU?

327 A:

HE TOLD ME I HAD A PICK UP AT 7:00 O'CLOCK EARLIER IN THE NIGHT AT LAX, PICKING UP A COUPLE CLIENTS AND TAKING THEM TO BEVERLY HILLS. AND THEN HE TOLD ME I HAD A PICK UP AT 10:45 AT MR. SIMPSON'S HOUSE.

328 Q:

WHERE DID YOU START FOR YOUR 7:00 O'CLOCK PICK UP AT LAX?

329 A:

WHERE DID I START?

330 Q:

WHERE DID YOU LEAVE FROM?

331 A:

FROM HIS HOUSE IN TORRANCE.

332 Q:

SO HE HAS HIS CARS AT HIS HOUSE?

333 A:

YES.

334 Q:

AND WHAT TYPE OF VEHICLE WERE YOU DRIVING?

335 A:

A LINCOLN TOWN CAR.

336 Q:

WHAT IS THE SIZE OF THAT CAR?

337 A:

IT IS A STRETCH. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE LENGTH OF IT IS.

338 Q:

DO YOU KNOW IF STRETCHES COME IN DIFFERENT LENGTHS?

339 A:

YES, THEY DO.

340 Q:

YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE LENGTH THIS CAR WAS?

341 A:

NO.

342 Q:

WHAT TIME DID YOU LEAVE FOR THE AIRPORT FOR THAT PICK UP?

343 A:

TO THE AIRPORT?

344 Q:

YES.

345 A:

6:00 -- WE GOT A PHONE CALL WHICH WE FOUND OUT THE PLANE WAS COMING IN EARLY. THE PICK UP WAS AT 7:00 O'CLOCK, AND WE FOUND OUT THEY WERE COMING IN AT 6:30. SO I LEFT ABOUT 6:00 O'CLOCK.

346 Q:

WHAT AIRLINES DID YOU GO TO, FOR THE PICK UP?

347 A:

IT WAS BRITISH AIRWAYS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

348 Q:

OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? YOU ARE NOT SURE?

349 A:

I AM NOT POSITIVE.

350 Q:

WHAT WAS THE FLIGHT NUMBER?

351 A:

I DON'T REMEMBER THIS STUFF.

352 Q:

WHAT WAS THE NAME OF THE PARTIES YOU WERE PICKING UP?

353 A:

IT WAS BILL TAYLOR AND ANOTHER PERSON.

354 Q:

WHAT WAS THE OTHER PERSON'S NAME?

355 A:

KEITH SOMETHING.

356 Q:

YOU DON'T REMEMBER THE LAST NAME OF KEITH?

357 A:

NO. HE WASN'T IMPORTANT. HE WAS JUST WITH BILL TAYLOR.

KEY QUOTE
358 Q:

WHAT TIME -- DID YOU PICK UP THEIR LUGGAGE AT THE AIRPORT?

359 A:

NO, THEY JUST CARRIED IT UP. IT WAS A SHORT --

360 Q:

THEY HAD CARRY ON?

361 A:

YES.

362 Q:

HOW MANY BAGS DID EACH OF THEM HAVE?

363 A:

BILL TAYLOR HAD TWO, AND THE OTHER GUY HAD ONE.

364 Q:

WOULD YOU DESCRIBE THOSE BAGS PLEASE?

365 A:

I DON'T KNOW. I WASN'T LOOKING AT THEM. I NEVER HANDLED THEM.

366 Q:

WHERE DID YOU FIRST SEE THEM?

367 A:

THE BAGS OR HIM? THE PEOPLE?

368 Q:

BOTH.

369 A:

GETTING OFF THE FLIGHT.

370 Q:

WERE YOU AT THE --

371 A:

I WAS AT THE GATE.

372 Q:

AT THE GATE. DID YOU HAVE A SIGN UP FOR THEIR NAMES?

373 A:

YES, I DID.

374 Q:

AND THE PEOPLE CAME UP TO YOU?

375 A:

YES.

376 Q:

SO YOU SAW THEM CARRYING BAGS?

377 A:

YES.

378 Q:

WOULD YOU DESCRIBE THE BAGS THEY WERE CARRYING?

379 MS. CLARK:

OBJECTION. ASKED AND ANSWERED.

380 THE COURT:

SUSTAINED.

381

BY MR. SHAPIRO:

382 Q:

THEY CARRIED THEIR OWN BAGS TO YOUR LIMOUSINE?

383 A:

I WASN'T DRIVING THE LIMOUSINE AT THAT TIME.

384 Q:

WHO WAS DRIVING THE LIMOUSINE?

385 A:

I WAS IN A -- I HAD TO MAKE A SWITCH. I WAS IN A TOWN CAR, JUST A REGULAR TOWN CAR.

386 Q:

WHAT KIND OF CAR WERE YOU DRIVING?

387 A:

LINCOLN TOWN CAR.

388 Q:

WHAT COLOR?

389 A:

WHITE.

390 Q:

AND WHERE DID YOU PUT THE BAGS THAT THESE TWO GENTLEMEN HAD?

391 A:

I POPPED THE TRUNK, AND THEY PUT THEM IN THERE.

392 Q:

THEY PUT THEM IN?

393 A:

YES.

394 Q:

WHERE DID YOU TAKE THEM?

395 A:

TO THE PENISULA HOTEL.

396 Q:

WHAT TIME DID YOU ARRIVE AT THE PENISULA?

397 A:

THE PLANE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE IN AT 6:30. IT DIDN'T ARRIVE UNTIL ABOUT 6:45. I DROPPED THEM OFF ABOUT 7:30.

398 Q:

ARE YOU SURE OF THAT TIME?

399 A:

AROUND THERE.

400 Q:

ARE YOU AS SURE OF THOSE TIMES AS YOU ARE OF THE TIMES THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN US FOR MR. SIMPSON?

401 A:

IF NOT, I KNOW THESE TIMES A LITTLE BIT BETTER.

402 Q:

WHY DO YOU KNOW THESE TIMES BETTER?

403 A:

BECAUSE JUST THE WAY THAT EVERYTHING HAPPENED, AS I CALLED MY BOSS, WHAT TIME THE PICK UP WAS, WHAT TIME HE HAD TO BE AT THE AIRPORT, WHAT TIME WE LEFT, WHAT TIME WE ARRIVED. IT WAS JUST MORE CLEAR TO ME WITH THE PHONE CALLS.

404 Q:

WELL, YOU HAD PHONE CALLS WITH THIS FLIGHT. YOU HAD NOTIFICATION THE FLIGHT WAS LATE?

405 A:

AT HOME -- WE WERE STILL AT HOME. I WAS TALKING TO HIM PERSONALLY.

406 Q:

I SEE. AFTER YOU DROPPED OFF THESE TWO GENTLEMEN AT THE PENISULA HOTEL, WHERE DID YOU GO?

407 A:

I CAME BACK.

408 Q:

YOU CAME BACK WHERE?

409 A:

I CAME BACK HOME.

410 Q:

WHAT TIME DID YOU GET HOME?

411 A:

8:00 O'CLOCK OR SO.

412 Q:

8:00 O'CLOCK OR SO? DID YOU JUDGE THE TIME BY ANYTHING?

413 A:

JUST FROM WHEN I LEFT THE PENISULA TO THE STANDARD TIME IT WOULD TAKE ME TO GET HOME.

414 Q:

WHERE DO YOU LIVE? I DON'T NEED YOUR EXACT ADDRESS, BUT GIVE ME CROSS STREETS, IF YOU MIGHT.

415 A:

TORRANCE. 182ND AND PRAIRIE.

416 Q:

AND WHAT DID YOU DO WHEN YOU GOT HOME AT 8:00 O'CLOCK?

417 A:

WELL, I HAD A SNACK AND CHANGED CARS AND GOT READY TO GO.

418 Q:

WHERE DID YOU CHANGE CARS?

419 A:

AT HIS HOUSE.

420 Q:

SO YOU WENT BACK TO YOUR BOSS' HOUSE ACROSS THE STREET?

421 A:

YES.

422 Q:

WHAT TIME DID YOU GO THERE?

423 A:

IT HAD TO HAVE BEEN 9:00 O'CLOCK OR SO. JUST TO TALK TO HIM AND MAKE SURE THAT MR. SIMPSON WAS STILL GOING.

424 Q:

WHAT DID HE TELL YOU?

425 A:

HE SAID, YES, SO FAR AS HE KNOWS THAT THE FLIGHT IS STILL ON, HIS PICK UP.

426 Q:

HOW MUCH TIME DID YOU SPEND WITH YOUR BOSS AT HIS HOUSE AT 9:00 O'CLOCK?

427 A:

WELL, I DON'T REMEMBER. JUST LIKE A FEW MINUTES.

428 Q:

AND THEN WHAT DID YOU DO?

429 A:

WENT BACK HOME.

430 Q:

HOW LONG DID YOU STAY AT HOME?

431 A:

UNTIL ABOUT 9:45.

432 Q:

WHAT DID YOU DO AT THAT TIME?

433 A:

LEFT.

434 Q:

HOW WERE YOU DRESSED WHEN YOU LEFT?

435 A:

JUST LIKE THIS BUT WITH A COAT.

436 Q:

SAME EXACT CLOTHES?

437 A:

YES.

438 Q:

PARDON?

439 A:

YES.

440 Q:

SAME TIE, SAME SHIRT, SAME PANTS?

441 A:

YES.

442 Q:

SAME SHOES, SAME SOCKS?

443 A:

YES.

444 Q:

AND 9:45 YOU LEAVE YOUR HOUSE NOW TO GO TO ROCKINGHAM?

445 A:

YES.

446 Q:

WERE YOU GIVEN DIRECTIONS TO ROCKINGHAM BY ANYBODY?

447 A:

BY MY BOSS, YES.

448 Q:

WHAT WERE THE DIRECTIONS HE GAVE YOU?

449 A:

TO GO UP THE 405 UNTIL SUNSET AND MAKE A LEFT ON SUNSET GOING WEST. MAKE A RIGHT ON ROCKINGHAM.

450 Q:

AND THEN JUST GO TO THE ADDRESS?

451 A:

YES.

452 Q:

DID HE GIVE YOU ANY OTHER SPECIFIC INFORMATION AS TO WHAT TO HAVE OR WHAT TO DO WHEN YOU WERE PICKING UP MR. SIMPSON?

453 A:

NOT THAT I RECALL, NO.

454 Q:

ARE THERE SOME PEOPLE THAT LIKE BEVERAGES IN THE CAR, NEWSPAPERS, THINGS LIKE THAT, IN THE LIMOUSINE?

455 A:

FOR SOME PEOPLE, BUT HE DIDN'T GIVE ME ANY SPECIAL INSTRUCTIONS.

456 Q:

IT WAS JUST, "PICK HIM UP AND TAKE HIM TO THE AIRPORT"?

457 A:

YES.

458 Q:

DID HE TELL YOU WHAT FLIGHT HE WAS GOING ON?

459 A:

AMERICAN AIRLINES. THAT WAS JUST WHERE TO DROP HIM OFF.

460 Q:

AND HE GAVE YOU THAT INFORMATION EARLIER IN THE MORNING, DIDN'T HE?

461 A:

YES.

462 Q:

AND DID HE TELL YOU WHAT TIME THE FLIGHT WAS LEAVING?

463 A:

HE JUST SAID HE HAD TO BE AT THE AIRPORT AT THE 11:45 FLIGHT.

464 Q:

HE GAVE YOU THE FLIGHT, THE FLIGHT NUMBER AND THE INFORMATION THAT MORNING?

465 A:

I AM NOT SURE IF HE GAVE ME THE FLIGHT NUMBER. HE JUST SAID AMERICAN AIRLINES IS WHERE HE USUALLY FLIES OUT OF.

466 Q:

DID YOU -- YOU DIDN'T CLOCK OUT WITH YOUR BOSS WHEN YOU LEFT YOUR HOUSE TO GO PICK UP MR. SIMPSON, DID YOU?

467 A:

NO.

468 Q:

AND YOU DON'T KEEP ANY TIME RECORDS WHERE YOU RECORD THE TIMES ON A TIME SHEET OR ANYTHING?

469 A:

NO.

470 Q:

SO YOU ARE APPROXIMATING THIS, ARE YOU NOT?

471 A:

YES.

472 Q:

AND MOST OF THE TIMES THAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, YOU ARE APPROXIMATING?

473 A:

YES.

474 MS. CLARK:

WELL, OBJECTION -- WITHDRAWN.

475 MR. SHAPIRO:

MAY I JUST HAVE A MOMENT, YOUR HONOR?

476 THE COURT:

YES.

477 MR. SHAPIRO:

THANK YOU.

478 THE COURT:

MR. SHAPIRO, LET ME JUST ASK YOU, DO YOU HAVE SUBSTANTIALLY MORE CROSS-EXAMINATION FOR THE WITNESS?

479 MR. SHAPIRO:

WELL, THAT'S WHAT I AM REVIEWING RIGHT NOW, YOUR HONOR.

480 THE COURT:

IT MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE FOR US TO TAKE OUR MORNING RECESS AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

481 MR. SHAPIRO:

THANK YOU, YOUR HONOR.

482 THE COURT:

FIFTEEN MINUTES. MR. PARK, I AM GOING TO ASK YOU, PLEASE DO NOT DISCUSS YOUR TESTIMONY WITH ANYONE EXCEPT THE LAWYERS INVOLVED IN THIS MATTER.

483 MR. SHAPIRO:

YOUR HONOR, MAY I ASK YOU AT THIS POINT IN TIME, SINCE WE ARE STILL ON DIRECT EXAMINATION, THAT HE NOT DISCUSS THIS CASE WITH ANY LAWYERS.

484 MS. CLARK:

I THINK WE ARE ON CROSS.

485 MR. SHAPIRO:

WE ARE ON CROSS-EXAMINATION; THAT HE NOT DISCUSS THIS CASE WITH ANY LAWYERS.

486 THE COURT:

WELL, I THINK THAT HE HAS THE RIGHT TO SPEAK TO THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY IF HE WISHES. OBVIOUSLY, YOU CAN QUESTION HIM CONCERNING THAT IF HE DOES, IN FACT, SPEAK TO THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY.

487 MR. SHAPIRO:

YOUR HONOR, THEN I ASK YOU NOT TO TAKE A RECESS AT THIS TIME.

488 THE COURT:

ALL RIGHT.

489 MR. SHAPIRO:

I HAVE NOTHING FURTHER, YOUR HONOR. THANK YOU.

490 THE COURT:

ALL RIGHT. WELL, YOU DO GET TO STEP DOWN AT THIS POINT. MY ADMONITION STILL APPLIES. DO NOT DISCUSS YOUR TESTIMONY AGAIN.

491 MS. CLARK:

EXCUSE ME, YOUR HONOR. I HAVE REDIRECT.

492 THE COURT:

OH, I AM SORRY.

493 MS. CLARK:

MAY I?

494 THE COURT:

WILL IT BE LENGTHY?

495 MS. CLARK:

NO.

496 THE COURT:

ALL RIGHT. MR. PARK, AGAIN, IF I CAN HAVE YOU JUST TAKE A SEAT FOR A MOMENT.

497 MS. CLARK:

MAY THE RECORD REFLECT MR. PARK LOOKED AT ME IN A VERY UNFRIENDLY WAY. I WILL BE BRIEF, MR. PARK.

KEY QUOTE

Temperature

tense

Key Quotes (5)

Allan Park
THE ONLY THING THAT I CAN SAY HERE IS THAT THE PERSON THAT I DESCRIBED IS SIX -- SIX FOOT, 200 POUNDS. IT JUST SEEMS TO BE A PRETTY BIG FEMALE.
Park's attempt to reconcile his grand jury identification of a 'black male' with his earlier statement to defense lawyers that he couldn't determine gender — his reasoning exposes the inconsistency rather than resolving it.
Marcia Clark
NO OTHER WITNESS HAS BEEN SUBJECTED TO THIS KIND OF INTIMIDATION. THIS IS HIGHLY INAPPROPRIATE. THERE HAS BEEN NOTHING TO INDICATE THIS WITNESS DOES NOT TAKE HIS OATH VERY SERIOUSLY AND IS TESTIFYING AS ACCURATELY AS HE CAN.
Clark's unusually passionate objection to Shapiro's opening questions signals how much the prosecution values Park's testimony and how threatened they feel by Shapiro's approach.
Allan Park
YES. I HEARD THAT.
Park confirms the DA played him the recording of his June 14 phone call with Shapiro/Taft — the recording where he said he couldn't tell if the figure was male or female — yet nobody pointed out the contradiction with his grand jury testimony.
Marcia Clark
MAY THE RECORD REFLECT MR. PARK LOOKED AT ME IN A VERY UNFRIENDLY WAY. I WILL BE BRIEF, MR. PARK.
A rare moment of candor on the record; Park's visible displeasure at being redirected after Shapiro's aggressive cross reveals the strain on the witness.
Allan Park
HE WASN'T IMPORTANT. HE WAS JUST WITH BILL TAYLOR.
Park's casual dismissal of the second airport passenger — 'Keith Something' — illustrates the selective nature of his memory and his tendency to notice only what seemed relevant to him at the time.

Evidence (2)

Informal
Grand jury transcript, page 257 line 11 — Park identifies the figure as 'a black male, six foot one, 200 pounds'
Used by Shapiro to impeach Park's direct examination testimony that he could not determine gender
Informal
Audio recording of Park's June 14 phone call with Robert Shapiro and Skip Taft
DA played recording for Park the Friday before testimony; recording contains Park saying he could not tell whether the figure was O.J. Simpson

Notable Exchanges (4)

Robert ShapiroMarcia ClarkKathleen Kennedy-Powell
Shapiro opens with a series of questions about whether Park understands the seriousness of his testimony and his oath. Clark objects twice as argumentative and accuses Shapiro of 'intimidation.' Both objections are overruled.
heated
Robert ShapiroAllan Park
Shapiro reveals that Park told Shapiro and Taft on June 14 he couldn't identify the figure as O.J. Simpson, that Park heard the recording of that call last Friday, and that nobody from the DA's office pointed out the contradiction with his grand jury testimony.
revealing
Kathleen Kennedy-PowellRobert Shapiro
Judge offers a morning recess. Shapiro objects — he does not want the DA to coach Park during the break — then immediately declares he has nothing further, ending cross abruptly rather than allow any recess.
strategic
Kathleen Kennedy-PowellAllan Park
Judge notices Park looking at his wrist during watch questions, asks him to hold the watch up, and describes it for the record: 'a wristwatch of some kind' on his left wrist.
procedural

Light Moments (3)

Kathleen Kennedy-Powell
Judge interrupts watch testimony to ask Park to hold up his wrist for the record, then formally describes 'a wristwatch of some kind.'
Allan Park
When asked the name of the second airport passenger, Park says 'Keith Something' and explains 'HE WASN'T IMPORTANT. HE WAS JUST WITH BILL TAYLOR.'
Marcia Clark
As redirect begins, Clark puts on the record that Park 'looked at me in a very unfriendly way' and promises to be brief.

Credibility Attacks (4)

⚔ Allan Park
Prior inconsistent statement
Grand jury testimony identified the figure as 'a black male'; his initial recorded statement to defense lawyers said he could not determine male or female. Neither the police nor the DA pointed out this contradiction before Park testified.
⚔ Allan Park
Omission on direct
Park did not mention the black overcoat when Clark asked how OJ was dressed on direct, but admits he told defense lawyers on June 14 that Simpson was wearing 'blue jeans, a white shirt and another kind of overcoat, a black overcoat.'
⚔ Allan Park
Unreliable time estimates
Shapiro establishes that Park kept no time records, did not clock in or out, and is approximating all times — including the critical 10:40–11:15 window at Rockingham.
⚔ Allan Park
Prior contact with defense
Park called Shapiro and Taft on June 14 (before his police interview) with his mother present; the recorded call contains statements that contradict both his grand jury testimony and his direct examination.

Witness Demeanor

Frequently confused by questions, asking for repeats or clarification ('I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU MEAN')
Defensive when confronted with the male/female discrepancy, pivoting to the figure's size rather than answering directly
Visibly looked at watch during watch-related questioning, prompting judge intervention
Visible displeasure at end of testimony — Clark notes his 'unfriendly' look when redirect begins

Objections

8 objections (2 sustained, 5 overruled)
Proceeding 8995 • 497 utterances • Prosecution witness
Preliminary Trial
Department 103
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📂 JUL 5, 1994 📄 Redirect examination of Allan
JUL 5, 1994 KRT DvH TD