Good morning, ladies and gentlemen.
THE JURY: Good morning.
DIRECT EXAMINATION (RESUMED) BY MR. COCHRAN
When we concluded our day yesterday we had played a tape for the jury and you shared with us and identified for this jury that was Mark Fuhrman's voice. Do you recall that?
And with regard to the tapes, the twelve hours plus tapes and the transcripts we talked about yesterday, did you turn those tapes and transcripts over to the Prosecution just as you did to the Defense in this case?
And have you been interviewed and talked with the Prosecution and cooperated with them?
Now, with regard to these tapes and transcripts that we have been talking about, after the first interview that you had with Detective Fuhrman in February of 1985, that you described for us, I showed you yesterday a series of questions which you sent to him prior to the second interview; is that correct?
Along with the questions that you sent him, did you send him a transcription of the tape of the--of an earlier meeting or any transcription, do you recall?
I sent him the transcription of our April 2nd, 1985, meeting, our first taped interview.
All right. You sent that to him and did he ever, as far as you know, make any changes at all on that transcription that you sent him?
Now, later in 1985 did you have occasion to prepare a series of transcripts that you had prepared from the various tapes you had conducted and send those to Mr. Fuhrman?
That was sometime in mid-June. I don't remember the exact date. But at that time I compiled all of the transcripts of our interviews and put them in a three-ring binder with indexes and dates and similar to the way I was logging the transcripts and keeping them for myself.
And did you give those to him or mail those to him or what did you do in that connection?
Did you ever at any point get any of those--the transcripts that were in the binder back from him with any changes?
And so that we are clear about what was inside the binder, it contained some hours of the transcriptions of the tapes you had had with this particular individual; is that right?
Now, yesterday we talked about Mr. Fuhrman's role as a technical advisor or a consultant. Was he to be paid if the screenplay was ever sold by you?
And with regard to these tapes or interviews that we call interviews of Mark Fuhrman, you have not tried to sell those tapes yourself, have you?
Now, with regard to the references of the so-called "N" word that we talked about, we talked yesterday, and I think the two examples that we were able to play for the jury I think you said occurred maybe in April of 1985; is that correct?
All right. The use of this word by this man, however, continued through 1988; isn't that correct?
Were there times after 1985 in the course of these interviews that you had with Mr. Fuhrman that he continued to use this word?
All right. Thank you. Now, I think you have already explained to us that the last interview was in July of 1984--1994?
Now, with regard to yesterday, just briefly we talked about the fact that you had inadvertently taped over the first tape and also maybe no. 9; is that correct?
The transcripts that we talked about, had the transcripts been made before the tapes were inadvertently taped over?
So you completed your process of doing the transcripts before you then taped over the actual tapes; is that correct?
All right. Now, in these interviews that you conducted with Mr. Fuhrman did you ever at any time ask him to embellish or enhance what he was telling you.
I told him that I wanted realistic scenarios and responses to what may happen relative to the development of the story and characters.
KEY QUOTEIn talking to you can you describe what he did with regard to his personal experiences?
You were talking to this man because he was a police officer; isn't that correct?
All right. In addition to talking to Mark Fuhrman, did you talk to other police officers in and around this same time?
Yes, I went to the Los Angeles Police Academy and talked with physical training people who worked with cadet patrol women there, and I went on ride-alongs and talked with other police officers as well.
KEY QUOTEIt was important to balance the--my understanding of the frustrations, as I mentioned before, that the women were feeling, the reasons why they wanted to become officers and some of the obstacles that they faced, the very real obstacles that they faced on the force and with dealing--dealing with some men who might belong to a group Men Against Women who didn't want them to be officers. I needed to have a clear understanding of the realistic kind of obstacles they would face.
All right. Now, you mentioned that these "N" word references were between `85 and `88. Did you have any interviews with this man between `88 and `94 that were taped?
All right. Was there a period of time when there were no interviews, a period of time when there were no taped interviews?
Now, yesterday you had shared with us and with this jury that when Detective Fuhrman used this word, this offensive word, the "N" word, he seemed to speak in ordinary speech or something of that nature. Do you recall that?
In the transcripts through 1988.
I told him that I wanted realistic scenarios and responses to what may happen relative to the development of the story and characters.
They are not for sale, no.
I went to the Los Angeles Police Academy and talked with physical training people who worked with cadet patrol women there, and I went on ride-alongs and talked with other police officers as well.