Now, where do you actually begin the PCR process in LAPD SID? Where is the first step performed?
Now, where is that in relation to the--the jury's seen a diagram. I'm not going to get it up again. But how far away is that from the evidence processing room?
Okay. How did you get these racks with the microcentrifuge tubes from the evidence processing room to serology?
Okay. Now, you've referred to something that lists the order in which the samples were processed that you used to help refresh your recollection. What are you referring to?
No, it's not, but it refreshes my recollection as to the last one I put on there.
Okay. And with regard to the next step in the--or the first step in the PCR process, the extraction process, what order did you process the samples for extraction in this case?
They would be--as to the item number in this--on this sheet, which is a different number from what the actual item number is, there's a listing of the extraction number, which is 84, and then it goes chronologically down through 21. I usually set my tubes up in that order.
Sure. And would you please describe the order in which you processed these tubes for extraction? If you need to refresh your recollection, that would be fine.
Okay. According to my extraction record, item no. 9, glove, A, backside sample is 84-1 followed by item no. 9, glove B, thumb sample, glove C, inside back of wrist, glove D, back of--back below little finger and then item no. 112, which as we discussed later, its actual evidence item number is different, but that would be the photo item number at that time.
And then item no. 113--wait. I skipped over the control. But one or 47 with the red stain and then its control and then listed on my sheet is item no. 113, which is 48, red stain, followed by its control and so on for 114 and then 115 and then 117 and then 106 and then 107 and finally item no. 18, O.J. Simpson blood exemplar.
Okay. You started skipping there. Did you process the substrate controls with 49, 50 and 52 right after you did the red stain?
Yes. Keep in mind though that to a certain extent, this is all happening at the same time period. It's just that you can only open one cap at a time like I described before. So there is actual--there is an actual process.
KEY QUOTEAnd so you--in this step as well, you've never opened more than one tube at a time?
Okay. How about the reference tube or the--by now, it's been the cutting from the fitzco card. Why was that last in the order you processed things?
Yeah, it was the last thing I was working on and--I don't know. Maybe I subconsciously grouped them up together as exemplars in a group.
KEY QUOTEAnd were there also other items that you processed in this--in this extraction process period?
Described earlier, we were talking about controls. Well, within our analysis, our--the laboratory testing, we have controls that go beyond the ones that are just collected at the scene. There are both positive and negative controls. The positive controls show us that yes, you do get this certain type--the process works, and, you know, it's what you expect. The negative controls shows you that there's no contaminating factors or anything weird like that going on. In this case, blood standard no. 1 is what I use as a positive control, whereas the next one down after that is the cloth control, and that would be utilized as a negative control.
Ladies and gentlemen, I'm going to take a brief recess. Please remember my admonitions to you. Let me ask you to step back into the jury room at this time. Mr. Yamauchi, you can step down.
Yeah, it was the last thing I was working on and--I don't know. Maybe I subconsciously grouped them up together as exemplars in a group.
Keep in mind though that to a certain extent, this is all happening at the same time period. It's just that you can only open one cap at a time like I described before.
Item no. 9, glove, A, backside sample is 84-1 followed by item no. 9, glove B, thumb sample, glove C, inside back of wrist, glove D, back of--back below little finger...