Ellen Aaronson testifies about her blind date with Danny Mandel on the night of June 12, 1994. She traces their route from her apartment on Darlington to Mezzaluna restaurant (arriving ~8:30pm, leaving ~10:10-10:15pm after lingering post-check) and then their walk home south on Bundy Drive — directly past 875 South Bundy, the murder scene. The testimony is clearly setup for what she and Mandel did or did not observe as they passed the crime scene that night, but the transcript ends at the moment of that setup.
# 1 MR. COCHRAN: Thank you very kindly, your Honor.
DIRECT EXAMINATION BY MR. COCHRAN
# 2 MR. COCHRAN: Good morning, Miss Aaronson.
# 3 MS. AARONSON: Good morning.
# 4 MR. COCHRAN: Miss Aaronson, what is your occupation?
# 5 MS. AARONSON: I work as a production executive for a company. We produce children's television shows based on toys that we make.
# 6 MR. COCHRAN: What kind of toys does that company make?
# 7 MS. AARONSON: We make the toys for the Power Rangers, for the TIC, Megaman. They are not going to forgive me for this. A number of different toy lines that we are starting based on a lot of Japanese television shows that come to the United States.
# 8 MR. COCHRAN: All right. Now, I would like, ma'am, to ask you whether or not you are acquainted with a gentleman by the name of Mr. Danny Mandel?
# 9 MS. AARONSON: We had a date once.
# 10 MR. COCHRAN: Was he the man who just left? Did you still recognize him as he went out?
# 12 MR. COCHRAN: That was the gentleman you had a date with once?
# 14 MR. COCHRAN: As I understand it, you and Mr. Mandel have the same doctor; is that correct?
# 16 MR. COCHRAN: And this doctor arranged the date at some time back in June of 1994?
# 17 MS. AARONSON: Correct.
# 18 MR. COCHRAN: And the date of that--the date of that date was June 12, 1994?
# 19 MS. AARONSON: Correct.
# 20 MR. COCHRAN: All right. And back at that time where did you live, ma'am?
# 21 MS. AARONSON: Excuse me?
# 22 MR. COCHRAN: Where did you live on June 12th of 1994?
# 23 MS. AARONSON: Same address where I live now which is 119--
# 24 MR. COCHRAN: Don't have to give--I don't think you should give your address.
# 26 MR. COCHRAN: Tell us what street you lived on?
# 27 MS. AARONSON: Darlington.
# 28 MR. COCHRAN: Okay. You still live the same place now?
# 30 MR. COCHRAN: All right. And did--tell us how this date took place? Did Mr. Mandel come to your house?
# 31 MS. AARONSON: He picked me up.
# 32 MR. COCHRAN: All right. You told us that you lived at this location. Did anyone else live there with you?
# 33 MS. AARONSON: I have two roommates.
# 34 MR. COCHRAN: All right. The same roommates now or at that time?
# 35 MS. AARONSON: No, I have different roommates now.
# 36 MR. COCHRAN: You had two roommates at that time?
# 37 MS. AARONSON: I had two different roommates at that time.
# 38 MR. COCHRAN: What were their names, if you recall?
# 39 MS. AARONSON: Tell you their names?
# 41 MS. AARONSON: Jennifer Yow and Jean Novack.
# 42 THE COURT: Can you spell those for the record us, please.
# 43 MS. AARONSON: The last name Yow, Y-O-W, and Novack, N-O-V-A-C-K.
# 44 MR. COCHRAN: All right. Those are your roommates back on June 12th?
# 45 MS. AARONSON: Correct.
# 46 MR. COCHRAN: At the Darlington residence?
# 48 MR. COCHRAN: On this particular date can you tell the Court and jury what time Mr. Mandel arrived at your location, your house?
# 49 MS. AARONSON: He arrived at my house a little after eight o'clock P.M.
# 50 MR. COCHRAN: All right. And did he come in at that point?
# 52 MR. COCHRAN: All right.
# 53 MS. AARONSON: He didn't come inside my apartment.
# 54 MR. COCHRAN: Tell us what happened once he got there a little after eight o'clock on June 12th, 1994.
# 55 MS. AARONSON: He rang the bell. I really don't recall if he walked into the apartment. We met, we left my gate. We walked towards his car. We went into his car. He asked me what I wanted to have for dinner, if I had a place I wanted to go to. I said, "Why don't we go to Mezzaluna," and because it is really walking distance, we decided to walk, so we left his car and then proceeded to walk to Mezzaluna.
# 56 MR. COCHRAN: All right. So you got out of the car and then you proceeded to walk to a restaurant called Mezzaluna?
# 57 MS. AARONSON: Correct.
# 58 MR. COCHRAN: Your Honor, we now have our board--and oh, it might be easier, I suppose, to use this same board for continuity. I think we will use this board.
# 59 THE COURT: All right. Proceed.
# 60 MR. COCHRAN: Thank you, your Honor.
# 61 MR. COCHRAN: If I may approach, if the Court allows me to, just briefly, I would like for you to show the jury generally where your apartment is and so we are acclimated--and if you need to step down, you can. Do you see Dorothy there?
# 62 MS. AARONSON: Yes. Darlington is this street, (Indicating).
# 63 MR. COCHRAN: All right.
# 64 MS. AARONSON: I live between Bundy and Westgate about five--a few houses in, so right around there, (Indicating).
# 65 MR. COCHRAN: All right. Where is Westgate?
# 66 MS. AARONSON: Right there, (Indicating).
# 67 MR. COCHRAN: This is Bundy here?
# 68 MS. AARONSON: Correct.
# 69 MR. COCHRAN: So you lived between Bundy and Westgate on Darlington a few houses in from Bundy; is that correct?
# 71 MR. COCHRAN: All right. So we have a general idea.
# 73 MR. COCHRAN: Okay. And I presume then that after you got out of Mr. Mandel's car you decided to go someplace at that point; is that right?
# 74 MS. AARONSON: Right.
# 75 MR. COCHRAN: And where did you go and did you know how to get there?
# 76 MS. AARONSON: Yes, I knew how to get there.
# 77 MR. COCHRAN: Did you kind of lead the way?
# 78 MS. AARONSON: Pretty much so.
# 79 MR. COCHRAN: Can you tell this Court and jury what route you took, and if you need to familiarize yourself with that particular map, give us an idea of which way you went to Mezzaluna restaurant.
# 80 MS. AARONSON: You want me to point it out again?
# 81 MR. COCHRAN: Yes. Can do you that for us?
# 82 MS. AARONSON: Yeah. Danny was parked on the other side of the street from my apartment. We left, we walked down the street--excuse me--down Darlington, I apologize. We crossed over Westgate.
# 83 MR. COCHRAN: Okay. First did you come to--is Westgate there?
# 85 MR. COCHRAN: You crossed over Westgate?
# 86 MS. AARONSON: We crossed Westgate to Granville.
# 87 MR. COCHRAN: A street called Granville?
# 89 MR. COCHRAN: Is that spelled g-r-a-n-v-I-l-l-e?
# 90 MS. AARONSON: Correct.
# 91 MR. COCHRAN: All right. When you got to Granville what happened?
# 92 MS. AARONSON: Heading north.
# 93 MR. COCHRAN: You turned left on Granville?
# 94 MS. AARONSON: Turned left on Granville.
# 95 MR. COCHRAN: All right. Where did you go?
# 96 MS. AARONSON: Went a few blocks up to right where Gorham basically is at that stage. Bundy turns into Gorham so that is Gorham at this stage.
# 97 MR. COCHRAN: All right.
# 98 MS. AARONSON: So we crossed the street.
# 99 MR. COCHRAN: All right. And you got to the restaurant?
# 100 MS. AARONSON: And we are really on the side of the restaurant at that stage.
# 103 MR. COCHRAN: That is generally the route that you took?
# 104 MS. AARONSON: Yeah. We then just walked around it to go to the front of the restaurant.
# 105 MR. COCHRAN: Okay. Trace that one more time for us so everybody is clear how you went.
# 106 MS. AARONSON: On Darlington. We walk down Darlington passed Westgate, got to Granville and made a left on Granville, went up to Gorham and at Gorham we crossed the street to the side of the restaurant, walked down and then walked around to the entrance of the--entrance of the restaurant.
# 107 MR. COCHRAN: All right. So that we are clear, the kind of moon-shaped circle here, that is supposedly Mezzaluna?
# 108 MS. AARONSON: Right, right.
# 109 MR. COCHRAN: Do you know about what time it was that you arrived at Mezzaluna?
# 110 MS. AARONSON: We probably arrived there at around 8:30.
# 111 MR. COCHRAN: All right. And this was a blind date, your first date; is that correct?
# 113 MR. COCHRAN: Okay. And so once you arrived there did the two of you have dinner?
# 114 MS. AARONSON: We ordered--we sat down.
# 115 MR. COCHRAN: All right.
# 116 MS. AARONSON: We didn't have dinner immediately.
# 117 MR. COCHRAN: You sat down like a regular date, right?
# 118 MS. AARONSON: Right.
# 119 MR. COCHRAN: We will skip over the first parts.
# 120 MS. AARONSON: I would appreciate that.
# 121 MR. COCHRAN: All right. And then at some point you ate, did you not?
# 122 MS. AARONSON: Yes. It took a while. Service wasn't very fast that evening.
KEY QUOTE # 123 MR. COCHRAN: All right. I'm sure they will be glad to hear.
# 124 MS. AARONSON: Sorry.
# 125 MR. COCHRAN: You then ordered dinner; is that right?
# 126 MS. AARONSON: We ordered dinner.
# 127 MR. COCHRAN: Do you remember what you had that night, ma'am?
# 128 MS. AARONSON: I recall we both had pasta.
# 129 MR. COCHRAN: All right. And you had your pasta. Did you have anything of an alcoholic nature to drink that night?
# 131 MR. COCHRAN: All right. And so you had the pasta and then the date continued; is that correct?
# 132 MS. AARONSON: Correct.
# 133 MR. COCHRAN: Now, there came a time when I presume you finished your meal; is that correct?
# 135 MR. COCHRAN: And at some point did somebody call for the check that evening?
# 136 MS. AARONSON: No. We never asked for the check. The waitress asked us if we would close out.
# 137 MR. COCHRAN: All right. "Close out" means to settle up with her?
# 138 MS. AARONSON: To settle up with her. Her shift was ending.
# 139 MR. COCHRAN: That was a lady?
# 140 MS. AARONSON: It was a lady.
# 141 MR. COCHRAN: Do you know her name?
# 142 MS. AARONSON: I don't know her name at all, no, I don't recall.
# 143 MR. COCHRAN: You had been to that restaurant before?
# 145 MR. COCHRAN: Had you had that waitress--particular waitress before, if you recall?
# 146 MS. AARONSON: I don't recall.
# 147 MR. COCHRAN: All right. After she asked you to settle up, what happened then?
# 148 MS. AARONSON: Danny paid immediately. The bill came back to us pretty quickly afterwards, a few minutes later.
# 149 MR. COCHRAN: All right. And so when you said he paid, he paid by credit card?
# 150 MS. AARONSON: By credit card.
# 151 MR. COCHRAN: All right. So there was a credit card record of the amount of the purchase and the tip and that sort of thing; is that right?
# 153 MR. COCHRAN: After you settled up with this particular waitress, did you leave the restaurant immediately at that point?
# 155 MR. COCHRAN: Do you know, do you have an estimate for this Court and jury of about what time it was that you settled up the check at Mezzaluna that evening?
# 156 MS. AARONSON: After we got the check we sat there and talked for about ten, fifteen minutes and then left.
# 157 MR. COCHRAN: All right. So you talked for about ten or fifteen minutes after you got the check; is that right?
# 158 MS. AARONSON: After we got the bill back to us.
# 159 MR. COCHRAN: All right. Do you have an idea of about what time you got it back? What time was it, approximately?
# 160 MS. AARONSON: Around ten o'clock at that point.
# 161 MS. CLARK: Object, leading.
# 162 THE COURT: Sustained.
# 163 MR. COCHRAN: Counsel is correct.
# 164 MR. COCHRAN: What time was it that you got the bill back?
# 165 MS. AARONSON: I can only estimate.
# 166 MR. COCHRAN: Your best estimate, yes.
# 167 MS. AARONSON: I looked at my watch when she first came and asked me--asked the two of us to pay, which was ten to.
KEY QUOTE # 168 MR. COCHRAN: Ten to?
# 169 MS. AARONSON: Ten to 10:00.
# 170 MR. COCHRAN: Ten to 10:00?
# 171 MS. AARONSON: And--
# 172 MR. COCHRAN: All right. And the bill came very shortly afterwards, about five, ten minutes later, not even ten minutes.
# 173 MR. COCHRAN: All right. And if I were to show you a copy of the receipt which indicates that it was--it is now an exhibit, your Honor.
# 174 MS. CLARK: Objection. No foundation, your Honor.
# 175 THE COURT: Sustained. She did see the bill.
# 176 MR. COCHRAN: I will lay the foundation, yes.
# 177 THE COURT: All right.
# 178 MR. COCHRAN: Thank you, your Honor.
# 179 MR. COCHRAN: Did you have occasion to see the bill that night or have you seen it since that time?
# 180 MS. AARONSON: I haven't seen it since. I only saw the bill when it came.
# 181 MR. COCHRAN: You saw it that night?
# 182 MS. AARONSON: When it came to the table. I didn't study the bill.
# 183 MR. COCHRAN: I just want to approach and ask you whether or not--
# 184 MS. CLARK: Objection, your Honor. That is not his bill, that is his credit card receipt.
# 185 THE COURT: Sustained.
# 186 MR. COCHRAN: You saw--what you saw, I presume, was the credit card bill imprint; is that right?
# 187 MS. AARONSON: The credit card receipt I saw returned.
# 188 MR. COCHRAN: Yes. I thought that is what you meant.
# 189 MS. AARONSON: I'm sorry.
# 190 MR. COCHRAN: Okay. That is all right. Can you look at this? This is a faxed copy received at the Court. This looks similar to the copy of what you saw that particular evening, ma'am, that Mr.--
# 191 MS. AARONSON: It looks like a receipt that they--that Mezzaluna would give.
# 192 MR. COCHRAN: All right. And with regard to the bill that particular evening, did Mr. Mandel pay it?
# 193 MS. AARONSON: Correct.
# 194 MR. COCHRAN: And he paid it by credit card?
# 196 MR. COCHRAN: All right. Now, after he paid this particular bill, you described for the Court and jury the fact that you continued to talk for ten to fifteen minutes after that; is that correct?
# 198 MR. COCHRAN: Did you stay at the same table?
# 200 MR. COCHRAN: All right. And at some time after the ten or fifteen-minute period of time did you have occasion to leave the Mezzaluna restaurant?
# 201 MS. AARONSON: Correct.
# 202 MR. COCHRAN: After you finished talking?
# 203 MS. AARONSON: Right after we sat and talked for about ten to fifteen minutes we left.
# 204 MR. COCHRAN: All right. The bill had been paid now and now the date--this part of the date was going to end, right?
# 205 MS. AARONSON: Right.
# 206 MR. COCHRAN: All right. And do you recall whether or not there were other people inside that restaurant at that time?
# 207 MS. AARONSON: I recall that the restaurant was full.
# 208 MR. COCHRAN: All right.
# 209 MS. AARONSON: It was very crowded.
# 210 MR. COCHRAN: It was crowded that evening?
# 211 MS. AARONSON: Yeah.
# 212 MR. COCHRAN: When you got ready to leave do you remember whether it was full still, your best recollection?
# 213 MS. AARONSON: My best recollection it was not as full as when we arrived.
# 214 MR. COCHRAN: All right. Now, at any rate, how did you leave the restaurant? Which door did you go out of, if you recall, when you left the restaurant?
# 215 MS. AARONSON: I recall that we left on the exit door that was by our table.
# 217 MS. AARONSON: Which was a side door and we climbed over the fence on the side of the restaurant.
# 218 MR. COCHRAN: That is how you got out?
# 219 MS. AARONSON: Right. It is a low fence.
# 220 MR. COCHRAN: Okay. You climbed out and that is how you left after you paid the bill; is that right?
# 222 MR. COCHRAN: Do you know about what time it was at that time, ma'am?
# 223 MS. AARONSON: I only know if I add up my time.
# 224 MR. COCHRAN: All right.
# 225 MS. AARONSON: I did not look at my watch.
# 226 MR. COCHRAN: All right. You didn't look at your watch at that time?
# 228 MR. COCHRAN: You do know what time you asked for the check; is that correct?
# 229 MS. AARONSON: Right.
# 230 MR. COCHRAN: And then how much time elapsed between the time that you asked for the check and the waitress brought the check back to you?
# 231 MS. AARONSON: I have to sort of change--
# 232 MS. CLARK: Well, misstates the testimony.
# 233 MS. AARONSON: I didn't ask for the check.
# 234 THE COURT: Overruled.
# 235 MR. COCHRAN: Strike that. Let me restate it at any rate.
# 236 MR. COCHRAN: How much time elapsed from the time that waitress asked you to close out?
# 237 MS. AARONSON: Until we got the bill?
# 238 MR. COCHRAN: Until the time you got the bill?
# 239 MS. AARONSON: About from the time she came up to us Danny handed her the credit card and she came back, I'm approximating here, five to eight minutes.
# 240 MR. COCHRAN: All right.
# 241 MS. AARONSON: At the most.
# 242 MR. COCHRAN: All right. So then you got it and he then signed it pretty quickly; is that correct?
# 243 MS. AARONSON: He signed it.
# 244 MR. COCHRAN: Okay. And then was it then ten or fifteen minutes after that?
# 245 MS. AARONSON: It was then ten or fifteen minutes after.
# 246 THE COURT: Excuse me, counsel. Miss Aaronson, would you please allow Mr. Cochran and Miss Clark to finish asking questions of you before you start to answer. The court reporter can only write down one person at a time.
# 247 MS. AARONSON: Okay.
# 248 THE COURT: And if you both talk at the same time it makes her job very difficult.
# 249 MS. AARONSON: Okay.
# 250 (Discussion held off the record between Deputy District Attorney and Defense counsel.) # 251 MR. COCHRAN: Thank you, your Honor.
# 252 MR. COCHRAN: All right. So ten or fifteen minutes after you had gotten the check you then left this restaurant, right?
# 253 MS. AARONSON: Right.
# 254 MR. COCHRAN: Okay. Did you leave walking--
# 256 MR. COCHRAN: --I presume? All right. Now, I want you to show the Court and jury again which way you took to go back to your residence and I would like for you to use the pointer, if you can, and show us which way you took.
# 257 MS. AARONSON: Okay. From Mezzaluna we walked down Gorham, we passed Westgate, and Gorham then turns into Bundy and we turned on Bundy. This whole time we were on the north side of Gorham. We crossed over Bundy.
# 258 MR. COCHRAN: Let me stop you there as you took that route. This route you described before, again how did you select that particular route?
# 259 MS. AARONSON: When we got to Westgate?
# 261 MS. AARONSON: My apartment is between Westgate and Bundy. We were talking and I just asked Danny if he wanted to take the short walk home or the long walk home.
# 262 MR. COCHRAN: What did he say?
# 263 MS. AARONSON: Take the longer walk home.
# 264 MR. COCHRAN: So it was still a date, right?
# 265 MS. AARONSON: We were just walking, right.
# 266 MR. COCHRAN: So you took the longer walk home?
# 267 MS. AARONSON: Took a longer walk home.
# 268 MR. COCHRAN: All right. So you proceeded on down Gorham at that point?
# 269 MS. AARONSON: Correct. We proceeded down Gorham.
# 270 MR. COCHRAN: All right. Indicating, your Honor, for the record, the witness is pointing using the diagram and she is proceeding down Gorham, People's 26, if the Court pleases.
# 272 MR. COCHRAN: Down Gorham toward Bundy.
# 273 MR. COCHRAN: Is that correct?
# 275 MR. COCHRAN: And so when you--as you were walking down Gorham, do you recall the two of you walked and as you turned on Bundy, do you recall on which side of Bundy did you go when you made that turn from Gorham to Bundy?
# 276 MS. AARONSON: As we turned--as we crossed over where Gorham and Bundy meet?
# 278 MS. AARONSON: We stayed on the same side, which was west, which because the road turns, it turns into the north side.
# 279 MR. COCHRAN: All right.
# 280 MS. AARONSON: Excuse me. The north side and it turns into the west side of the street.
# 281 MR. COCHRAN: Your Honor, I'm going to want to trace this particular route, if I can, and I would like to do this, if we can. May I have just one second? Thank you.
# 282 (Discussion held off the record between Defense counsel.) # 283 MR. COCHRAN: Your Honor, I'm going to ask, so we have a record of this, that Mr. Harris be allowed to--I want to trace the route going first and then we will do a separate one coming back, if the Court pleases, on the elmo.
# 284 THE COURT: All right. Maybe we can just have different colors for each route.
# 285 MR. COCHRAN: Is that okay?
# 286 MR. COCHRAN: Why don't you direct Mr. Harris. We are starting at Darlington. That is approximately where you live, correct?
# 288 MR. COCHRAN: We will trace the route that you took. Why don't you direct Mr. Harris and he will--
# 289 MS. AARONSON: Do you want me to do it through this or keep telling you where to go?
# 290 MR. COCHRAN: Tell him which way to go on Darlington.
# 291 MS. AARONSON: Go east. You are on Dorothy, but go east two blocks from there. That is Westgate. Go one more block to Granville. Stop at Granville. Make a left at Granville and head up all the way up to Gorham. You are going to cross Gorham and go into Mezzaluna restaurant, if you want to, right.
# 292 MR. COCHRAN: So that is the general route that you took going; is that right?
# 293 MS. AARONSON: Correct.
# 294 MR. COCHRAN: Okay. Your Honor, I would like to print this out as Defense's next exhibit, if the Court pleases.
# 295 THE COURT: All right.
# 296 MR. COCHRAN: Next is--
# 297 THE COURT: This will be Defense 12--
# 298 MR. COCHRAN: Your Honor, there is an "X" at Dorothy I would like to take off there.
# 299 THE COURT: All right.
# 300 (Deft's 1233 for id = computer printout) # 301 MS. CLARK: Is that fairly accurate?
# 302 MS. AARONSON: Right.
# 303 MR. COCHRAN: What is that number, your Honor?
# 305 MR. COCHRAN: 1233. I would like to print this out.
# 307 THE COURT: All right. Is that captured, Mr. Fairtlough? Mr. Harris? Proceed.
# 308 MR. COCHRAN: Thank you, your Honor. Now, I would like, your Honor, as soon as that is captured, your Honor, if it is captured, to have Miss Aaronson to demonstrate the route back to her apartment.
# 309 MR. COCHRAN: And that is Gorham; is that correct?
# 310 MS. AARONSON: That is Gorham.
# 311 MR. COCHRAN: Why don't you direct him down from Gorham.
# 312 MS. AARONSON: Now, you should head west all the way down to where Gorham and Bundy meet.
# 313 MR. COCHRAN: You might want to stay on the street.
# 314 MS. AARONSON: Now, head north down Bundy. I'm getting my--excuse me. Heading south down.
# 315 MR. COCHRAN: South on Bundy at that point?
# 316 MS. AARONSON: Right. Bundy turns. We were on the west side of the street, though.
# 317 MR. COCHRAN: All right.
# 318 MS. AARONSON: Go all the way down to Darlington, which is one block passed Dorothy, turn left onto Darlington, and I would pretty much go maybe about another centimeter and stop there. That is pretty much where my apartment is.
# 319 MR. COCHRAN: Okay. Can we mark that?
# 320 (Deft's 1234 for id = computer printout) # 321 MR. COCHRAN: Is that again the general route that you took home?
# 322 (No audible response.) # 323 MR. COCHRAN: Is that the general route that you took home?
# 324 MS. AARONSON: Yeah.
# 325 MR. COCHRAN: That is the longer route that you described for us; is that right?
# 326 MS. AARONSON: Yeah.
# 327 MR. COCHRAN: Now, as you were walking along this route, as you were proceeding down Gorham to Bundy to go southbound on Bundy, what were you and Mr. Mandel doing at that point?
# 328 MS. AARONSON: We were talking.
# 329 MR. COCHRAN: And without going into the subject matter of the conversation, was this just general conversation?
# 330 MS. AARONSON: Just general conversation.
# 331 MR. COCHRAN: All right. As you walked down--how long have you lived in that general area, ma'am?
# 332 MS. AARONSON: I have lived there now for three and a half years.
# 333 MR. COCHRAN: All right. And you said you were on the west side of the street; is that correct?
# 334 MS. AARONSON: Correct.
# 335 MR. COCHRAN: And do you recall who was closest to the street and who was closest to what would be the sidewalk?
# 336 MS. AARONSON: I was on the outside.
# 337 MR. COCHRAN: All right. So you were closest to the street side?
# 339 MR. COCHRAN: And Mr. Mandel was inside; is that correct?
# 341 MR. COCHRAN: Do you recall him doing anything, other than talking, as you walked along?
# 342 MS. AARONSON: On that side of the street?
# 343 MR. COCHRAN: Yes. Okay. Bundy? As you were going southbound on Bundy?
# 344 MS. AARONSON: Hitting the trees, leaves on the trees.
KEY QUOTE # 345 MR. COCHRAN: All right.
# 346 MS. AARONSON: Just walking and he was hitting the trees. That was pretty much it.
# 347 MR. COCHRAN: All right. At some point did you walk past 875 south Bundy?
# 349 MR. COCHRAN: And you know where 875 south Bundy is and you became aware of that; is that correct?
# 350 MS. AARONSON: I know where 875 Bundy is.
# 353 MR. COCHRAN: All right. You walked right past that particular place that particular night?
# 355 MR. COCHRAN: All right.