All right. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. Please be seated. All right. Let the record reflect we have been rejoined by all the members of our jury panel. Dr. Henry Lee is on the witness stand undergoing direct examination by Mr. Mr. Scheck. We will continue for another half hour.
And before you went there were you able to look at some pictures that had been taken of the crime scene?
And what is the difference between a crime scene investigation and a crime scene inspection?
A crime scene investigation involve more library type investigative procedure start from the beginning step-by-step to the end, usually involving an original scene or well-protected scene. A crime scene inspection usually for a limit purpose for certain specific reason usually not involve a lengthy process.
I arrive Bundy scene at 6:40 June 25th, 1994. My instruction is have to be complete before seven o'clock, so you only have 20 minute. In addition, that is not an original crime scene any more, already processed evidence, evidence already picked up, so I only can do a limit inspection, which is limit amount of specific purpose, not to do a complete reconstruction or a complete investigation.
KEY QUOTEDr. Lee, could you describe for us, please, what an impression is and what an imprint is.
An impression is a three-dimensional representation, an object, leave an indentation, have the width, length and depth. For example, a footprint in snow, a tire track on the beach sand or a soft soil surface. Another good example, a bullet fires through a gun, the land and groove left an impression on the bullet, those call impression. Imprint is a two-dimensional representation only of the length and width, but no depth. For example, footprint left on a hard surface, such as walkway, hardwood floor, piece of paper; we don't have the depth, only have the length and width. A fingerprint left on a surface, a wood surface, that is another imprint; however, if a fingerprint left in soft material, putty or fresh paint, now you have an indentation. An imprint not limit to shoes, foot; can be fingerprint, can be ear print, can be lip, sometime people have big nose, can have a nose print, so variety of imprints evidence which a criminalist can find at the crime scene. We generally look at width, length and depth, determine that is an impression or an imprint.
Now, were you able at your trip to Bundy on June 25th to identify certain imprint evidence in the walkway?
And could you please come down and point out to the jury where those were, and as you do that, I would like to mark two other--
Board or mini board we will call them, photographs, and I would like to make them a and B.
And I would like to mark as 1337-A a blown-up photograph of the photograph that is in the bottom right-hand corner of this exhibit, and I would like to mark as 1337-B another blow-up of the middle photograph at the bottom of the board entitled "Walkway, 6/24--6/25/94."
Now, Dr. Lee, could you please describe what it is you found on the walkway on June 25th.
On June 25th, 1994, I arrive at Bundy. I found quite a few imprint evidence which consistent with footwear imprint. The majority have a specific pattern. Later was identify to be consistent with Bruno Magli type of shoe wear. In addition to those shoe wear evidence, I notice some--a different design, a parallel line design type of pattern, (Indicating). Subsequently I photographically document those and with a scale to demonstrate the existence of such imprint evidence.
Are the photographs of 1337-A and 1337-B blow-ups of the photographs that are on the board 1337?
Could you, I guess starting with 1337-A and then moving to B and then moving to 1337-A, identify this parallel line imprint pattern you've described and indicate where it is on the board diagram and on the larger diagram? Photographs, I'm sorry
In this small picture, (Indicating), labeled "Walkway June 25th, `94." The center photograph of lower set of picture, this one consistent with a heel print, consistent with A, subsequently agent Bodziak identify that is a Bruno Magli. Adjacent to that have a series of parallel line, (Indicating), of another imprint, have same type of appearance, (Indicating). This large photograph which shows this parallel line design, this Bruno Magli, in addition have some wiggly line pattern, but this parallel line shows a series linear design that is consistent with an imprint.
Dr. Lee, could you draw a circle around using a blue pen, the imprint--parallel line imprint that you are talking about?
Now, moving to the photograph on the bottom right of the board and the larger blow-up, 1337-A, could you describe what is on those photographs and their relationship to the one you've just discussed.
This imprint was found in the middle row of no. 10 tile on the walkway, start from the first staircase, you counting the no. 10 tiles, have consistent with again parallel line design and this one is more complete, its pattern resembling on a shoe, (Indicating).
Could you--possible to identify here on 1337-A the design that you say is a parallel line imprint pattern that is--resembles a shoe?
This is a photograph submit to me by attorney Shapiro, is a photograph took by LAPD photographer. I did not receive a photo log tell me which picture from where.
All right. Are you able to place where this photograph comes from in terms of the tiles on the walkway?
All right. Would it assist you if I put this picture on the elmo in terms of being able to identify where the parallel line imprint is on this picture?
There is a parallel line imprint on the picture taken on June 13th by the Los Angeles Police Department that is consistent with the other parallel line imprints you found on June 25th?
Now, Dr. Lee, I know that we worked a little bit with the point maker. Could you please direct Mr. Harris and show the jury.
Along this area, (Indicating). I'm not too good in drawing this. Is consistent a series of linear formation. It is a very small portion of imprint evidence.
Could we--could you put "HLC" in the upper left-hand corner and we will print that out. Mr. Harris will do that, actually.
Are there techniques available for recognizing, preserving and documenting shoe impressions in soil?
Is the area depicted in the middle of this diagram that represents the closed-in area--you are familiar with that?
Is the soil in that area the kind of surface where one could--a forensic scientist could recognize, and if it were present, do something to preserve a shoe impression?
Generally we rely two technique: One photographic technique with a scale. Second called casting. Generally we rely on plaster of Paris, which is the stuff we put on the wall; however, we use much better quality. Generally prefer the dental stuff to make a cast, and that is a method commonly used for preserve a three-dimensional impression evidence.
Now, are there techniques that you could have used on June 25th, 1994, to enhance the lines that you saw on the ground?
We can use chemical technique or instrument, two methods: The chemical technique more effective. We could tetramethyl benzedine spray or orthrotolidine spray which will make a contrast react with the surface, especially contents blood or heat and reaction which shows up vividly in blue color.
Were you--are those kinds of enhancement procedures essentially destructive of the imprints?
The order is very strict. I only can photograph, measure and do simple tests, cannot add too many chemical or remove the whole walkway.
Consist of four pictures. The top two is original crime scene photograph provide to me by attorney Shapiro. The lower two photographs is a close-up to demonstrate certain area on those material present at the scene, which namely on the left-hand side one is a piece of paper. We say irregular shape, some bloodstain was observed on it. On the right-hand side is an envelope approximately four-inch by nine-inch in size with a number plate 104. That is again have some bloodstain material on the envelope. In a close inspection of this envelope and this piece of paper, I discover this imprint like pattern exist on the paper. Those imprint have similar linear design and those imprint make in blood. Some of the bloodstain covers portion of the imprint which indicative, this imprint has to be placed on this envelope, this corner before, prior to the blood apply to it, (Indicating).
Now, Dr. Lee, I would like to show you--how much more--how many more minutes? I would like to mark what would be 1338-A and is this A.
Now, Dr. Lee, are the parallel line imprint impressions that you have identified on the envelope and the piece of paper, could those have come from a Bruno Magli shoe?
Two-dimensional pattern. This two-dimensional pattern cannot be come from a Bruno Magli shoe.
Could the imprint impression--imprint--my apologies. The imprints on the envelope, could that have come from Mr. Goldman's boot?
I study the boot, did some measurement, and sole pattern is complete different than this imprint.
Are the imprints that you found on the piece of paper and the envelope consistent with the parallel line imprints you found on the Bundy walkway on June 25th?
I only can give you a very limit conclusion with this--with regards to this issue, which the paper--I don't have physically the paper to study.
Was this paper ever collected by criminalists or police officers at the Los Angeles Police Department?
Sustained. You can ask him if he ever personally observed that piece of evidence in the custody of the LAPD.
Did you ever personally observe that piece of paper in the custody of the Los Angeles Police Department?
This is the photograph of Detective Fuhrman pointing to the envelope with the piece of paper in it, but the body is cropped. This is Defense 1080. We have done--used this when Mr. Fung was on the stand.
I direct your attention to the screen. Do you see the piece of paper here, (Indicating)?
I can see in the middle of the photo this tile and piece of paper have similar shape in this location near the corner. Also I can see this envelope.
Was this piece of paper with the parallel line imprint impression present, based on this photograph, at the Bundy crime scene on June 13th?
I did observe on this photograph there parallel line exist in this location. Again there bloodstain on top of the parallel line make it difficult to see, but do exist. Subsequently a close-up shows this clearly, they are parallel line in this area, (Indicating).
Dr. Lee, in your opinion would this piece of paper be an important item to collect in doing a processing this crime scene?
Umm, I wasn't at the crime scene, so I cannot make an assessment, but if my crime scene I would collect it.
KEY QUOTEAll right. Is a piece of paper such as this, besides the imprint impressions you are talking about, is it possible to examine both the front and the back of this paper for fingerprints?
What about fingerprints in blood? Is that something in your experience that you can detect at a crime scene from a piece of paper such as this?
Because blood is red, is visible. You have an imprint, a fingerprint, which commonly we can recognize. If a bloody fingerprint, it is not vivid enough, we can use an enhancement procedure. Those procedure been published, including my own paper, can enhance bloody fingerprint or footprint.
All right. Ladies and gentlemen, we are going to take our break for the afternoon. And Mr. Harris, can you take that down for me, please.
I arrive Bundy scene at 6:40 June 25th, 1994. My instruction is have to be complete before seven o'clock, so you only have 20 minute.
This two-dimensional pattern cannot be come from a Bruno Magli shoe.
Some of the bloodstain covers portion of the imprint which indicative, this imprint has to be placed on this envelope, this corner before, prior to the blood apply to it.
I wasn't at the crime scene, so I cannot make an assessment, but if my crime scene I would collect it.