📄 Sidebar: cross-examination procedures — Monday, August 14, 1995
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Sidebar: cross-examination procedures

Date: Monday, August 14, 1995 • Utterances: 11
Marcia Clark approaches the bench to formally protest Judge Ito's handling of her cross-examination of Dr. Rieders, accusing the court of signaling bias to the jury through tone, demeanor, and rulings. Clark argues that Ito's comment 'Let's get back to this case' effectively told the jury her questioning was improper, damaging the People's right to a fair trial. Ito rejects the complaint, explaining that Clark had exhausted the relevant scope of the Sconce case impeachment and had attempted to introduce hearsay without foundation.
1 (The following proceedings were held at the bench:)
2 THE COURT:

All right. We are over at the side bar. Miss Clark.

3 MS. CLARK:

Yes, your Honor. I regrettably have asked to approach because I feel that the People's right to a fair trial is being abrogated by the Court's clear bias in the manner in which it has handled the cross-examination of Dr. Rieders. I have attempted to confine my questioning to the relevant portions upon which the Court has ruled there has been relevance concerning the Sconce case. The Court has indicated by its tone and its demeanor and its ruling its disapproval of my every question, practically, in the area, and has told the jury, in direct contravention to its own finding, that the Sconce matter is relevant, "Let's get back to this case," and has basically signaled to the jury, if not with tone and with action and with rulings, its disapproval of my behavior. I do not see what I have done that has been inappropriate. I have attempted to abide by all of the Court's rulings.

I asked to approach when I wanted to elicit something that has been previously ruled on. And the jury can only think that the Court has signaled its position on the presence of EDTA on the blood on the sock and the gate and the Court has based its determination--has made a determination that it was indeed present and that my questioning is inappropriate and ineffective. And on behalf of the People I would ask that the Court make some indication to the jury that it is not intending to signal any position on the issue, because at this point I think the signals have been very clear and very loud and I think that the People's right to a fair trial has been damaged.

4 MR. COCHRAN:

May I respond just briefly?

5 THE COURT:

No. Mr. Blasier is handling this.

6 MR. COCHRAN:

I'm sorry.

7 MR. BLASIER:

The Court gave Miss Clark many, many signals. We spent most of the cross on this, the Sconce case. It wasn't like she wasn't allowed to go into it. She has been going into matters that are far collateral to this case and the Court sustained many objections. And I don't think the Court's comment was inappropriate at all and I think it would be complete inappropriate to go back and say I didn't mean what I said. So I would object to any such correcting instruction or statement by the Court.

8 MS. CLARK:

Let me just indicate--

9 THE COURT:

The issue as to the Sconce case was that Dr. Rieders did testing that somebody else disagreed with. It goes to his competence. That has been established and that was established ad infinitum ad nauseam to a degree that was unwarranted and there were attempts to bring in hearsay documents that clearly there was no foundation for and to bring in opinions of other people regarding Dr. Rieders' performance on the Sconce case. I allowed you to establish the foundation that somebody else disagrees with Dr. Rieders' finding in the Sconce case. That is all that is relevant here.

10 MS. CLARK:

Well, okay. It is my position that there were other issues regarding the witness' credibility that were highly germane. The Court disagreed, I understand, but I have never seen a lawyer for the Defense treated in the manner in which this Court has treated me throughout this cross-examination.

11 THE COURT:

Well, look at Mr. Neufeld some time when I get impatient with him for the same reason, that the cross-examination is ridiculously long. I will note your objection, but I think it is not well taken.

KEY QUOTE

Temperature

tense

Key Quotes (4)

Marcia Clark
I have never seen a lawyer for the Defense treated in the manner in which this Court has treated me throughout this cross-examination.
Clark directly accuses the judge of differential treatment — a bold charge that escalates a procedural complaint into a claim of prejudice against the prosecution.
Lance A. Ito
I allowed you to establish the foundation that somebody else disagrees with Dr. Rieders' finding in the Sconce case. That is all that is relevant here.
Ito defines the precise scope he believes was permissible, implying Clark significantly exceeded it during cross.
Marcia Clark
The jury can only think that the Court has signaled its position on the presence of EDTA on the blood on the sock and the gate.
Clark identifies the stakes explicitly — this is about whether the jury now believes the EDTA evidence is settled, undermining a central prosecution challenge.
Lance A. Ito
Well, look at Mr. Neufeld some time when I get impatient with him for the same reason, that the cross-examination is ridiculously long. I will note your objection, but I think it is not well taken.
Ito deflects the bias charge by invoking Neufeld as a counterexample, then formally dismisses Clark's protest on the record.

Evidence (2)

Informal
EDTA found on blood samples from the sock and the gate — central to the planted-evidence defense theory
discussed as subject of Dr. Rieders' testimony under cross
Informal
Documents from the Sconce case used to impeach Dr. Rieders' competence
challenged — Ito ruled Clark lacked foundation for hearsay documents and third-party opinions

Notable Exchanges (2)

Marcia ClarkLance A. Ito
Clark formally accuses the judge of bias through tone and rulings; Ito methodically rejects the complaint, explaining his evidentiary rationale and noting her objection is 'not well taken.'
heated
Johnnie CochranLance A. Ito
Cochran attempts to respond to Clark's complaint and is immediately cut off — 'Mr. Blasier is handling this' — a small but pointed moment of courtroom control.
procedural

Credibility Attacks (1)

⚔ Dr. Rieders
prior inconsistent findings / competence challenge via Sconce case
Clark sought to use the Sconce case to show Rieders' forensic conclusions had been disputed before; Ito limited this to establishing that someone disagreed with his findings, blocking hearsay documents and third-party expert opinions about his performance.

Objections

1 objections (0 sustained, 1 overruled)
Proceeding 7301 • 11 utterances
Criminal Trial
Department 103
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