And in this tape you recall seeing that there is a panning shot of the bedroom area and the bed?
And at the point the camera passes over the carpet area and the bed and cuts just at the moment that one would have seen an item in the position of the socks as they were photographed on June 13th?
There was a panning shot, but I don't believe from the angle that the shot was taken that the socks would have been visible.
All right. When you saw that tape, did you see that at the point that the socks should have appeared the tape cuts?
All right. And in your--now, you prepared for this redirect examination over the weekend?
It was the day after--to the best of my recollection it was the day after the hearing for the videotape with the photographers and the detectives were--
Your Honor, perhaps we can at some point get the Court to take judicial notice of that date.
Have you spoken to any of the people at SID who testified at that hearing about the videotape?
Uh-huh. And was there discussion between the two of you about a time on the videotape that would indicate when that videotape was taken of objects in Mr. Simpson's master bedroom?
And did you have a discussion with him about the time on the videotape where it depicts items in Mr. Simpson's master bedroom?
In your preparations for redirect examination with the Prosecutors did you have a discussion with them about the times on the videotape which shows items in Mr. Simpson's master bedroom?
And when the subject came up, did they press you to change your testimony that the collection of the socks happened between 4:30 and 4:40?
Did they press you to say that your collection of the socks was not necessarily after item no. 12 and before item no. 14?
In other words, your testimony on redirect examination that you are no longer sure if the sock was collected--socks were collected between 4:30 and 4:40 was just something that you decided to say on redirect examination without any consideration of the time on that videotape?
Well, isn't there a difference between the way you testified about the time in which the socks were collected and the order in which the socks were collected on redirect examination versus your direct examination and cross-examination?
And you had questions and answers of what you said on cross-examination about this?
And then on your redirect examination do you not concede, sir, that your testimony changed?
Well, the different words that you used were a change in when the time--which of the words that you used constituted a change in the time that you could have collected the socks?
When you answered on redirect, you are now saying that you did not know if the socks were collected in between 4:30 and 4:40, right?
Were you asked: "Question: And can you tell us whether those--whether those--between the collection of item 12 and item 14 by looking at your crime scene checklist? "Answer: It was collected within that time frame. I don't know if it was collected in between those two times, though. "Question: What are the two time frames? What is the time frame for 12? "Answer: The time frame is 4:30. "Question: And that was the stain in the foyer? "Answer: Yes. "Question: And what is the time for 14? "Answer: The time for 14 is 4:40. "And that was the stain in the master bedroom? "Answer: Yes. "Question: Now, just--I just want to make sure I understood your testimony. Do you know whether you collected--whether you collected 13 in between 12 and 14? "Answer: I know it was in that time frame, but I do not specifically recall nor can I tell from my notes if they were. "Question: For sure? "Answer: For sure." Were you asked those questions and did you give those answers?
Mr. Fung, is this a habit you have of suddenly becoming vague if you think it is going to help the Prosecution's position?
KEY QUOTENow, you were asked some questions on redirect examination about the videos of Bundy and a three-dimensional brown object on the blanket. Do you recall that?
I don't remember--I never--I don't recall it being a three-dimensional--saying it was three-dimensional. There was a dark object on the walkway area.
Now, you spent a lot of time going over those videotapes with the Prosecutors, haven't you?
From the time you first saw those videotapes to the time you came in here and testified about it on redirect examination, you only reviewed those for a half hour?
Now, I think you testified on redirect examination that when you looked at the video and the stills you were going through a process of reconstruction?
And you had no independent memory--withdrawn. And part of that--and in your reconstruction of the stills and the videotape, you had a very specific recollection of putting down a card near a pole at a certain point in time?
I don't think that is a recollection. That is something that I saw happen in the videotape.
All right. So in other words, you had no independent memory of exactly what you did in putting down the cards? You just looked at the videotape and looked at still photographs and sort of made up what you think happened?
You looked at the still photographs and you looked at the videotape and you tried to reconstruct what you think happened?
I looked at the videotape, I looked at still photos, and with what I remember from the crime scene, I came up with a reconstruction.
Well, your memory of the crime scene, did it include exactly what cards you put down next to the objects and in what order you did them?
Do you have an independent--did you have an independent recollection of which cards you put down at what time?
At Bundy with respect to the glove, the hat and the envelope, did you have a specific recollection of what you did and when you did it?
I don't have specific recollection as to what exact time it is, but I do know what order I did things in.
Well, when you put the cards down, do you have an independent recollection as to whether or not you put a card down in one location and then before the photographer took a picture decided to move it to a somewhat different place?
At any time when you were putting down the card near the hat, the glove and the envelope, do you have a specific recollection about putting down a card and just leaving it in the first place you put it?
And isn't it true, sir, that the reconstruction that you went through of the still photographs and the videotape are based on the assumption that you put certain cards down, left them in positions and didn't change them and you did it in a certain order?
My reconstruction is based on that, plus the fact that I would not move the evidence until a photograph had been taken.
Do you have a specific recollection--withdrawn. Could it have been, sir, that when you were putting down a card by the hat, that you put it down at one place at first and then moved it to another?
Well, based on your recollection of the crime scene, is that something that you could have done?
Your Honor, I have two photographs that I would like to have marked as Defendant's next in order. One would be then--
Your Honor, I would like to object to showing these photographs. Perhaps we can approach.
And that is an envelope--that is--that would be no. 104, which would be the photo i.d. Of the envelope? Why don't you check.
May the record reflect that he is checking in what appears to be his crime scene identification checklist notebook?
Are you checking a page that indicates the time in which these objects were collected?
Because you didn't write down in your evidence item collection sheet the time that these items were collected?
So when you went through this reconstruction with the still photographs and the videotapes, you didn't even have the times that the items were collected?
Yes, the card is in a different position, but that is not uncommon for the card to be moved in a different position for photographic purposes.
KEY QUOTEAll right. It is not uncommon at all to be moving these cards around during the process of still photography?
But your entire reconstruction, without independent recollection, based on the videotape and the still photographs, is based on a very specific judgment about which cards were placed down in what order?
KEY QUOTEMy reconstruction was based on those factors, plus my practice of not moving evidence--
So the basic assumption here is that you don't move evidence before it is photographed?
And it would be your general practice to report if someone moved evidence from the position in which it was originally found to a different position?
You were asked questions on redirect examination about why you thought the scene might have been altered?
Do you recall questions on redirect examination about your responsibility to find out who might have altered the crime scene?
Were you asked these questions and did you give these answers on redirect examination?
You need to give page citations. If you can't give page citations, you can't do it.
Your Honor, do we have a page number from yesterday's transcript? We have live notes. I have the questions and answers.
We have had a photocopy repair person since 8:30 this morning working on our machines.
KEY QUOTEAll right. Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, if you want to stand and stretch for a moment, we will have the Court reporter get the transcript from yesterday.
Well, your Honor, it is just--you know, I can get these on the computer, I can get right to the page, but without the transcript page number, if we can't--
Let's do this: Ladies and gentlemen, we are going to take a 15-minute recess at this point. Please remember all my admonitions. Do not discuss this case among yourselves, don't form any opinions, don't conduct any deliberations until the matter has been submitted to you, do not allow anybody to communicate with you with regard to the case. We will stand in recess for fifteen minutes. All right.
I answered the question with different words, yes.
Mr. Fung, is this a habit you have of suddenly becoming vague if you think it is going to help the Prosecution's position?
Yes, the card is in a different position, but that is not uncommon for the card to be moved in a different position for photographic purposes.
But your entire reconstruction, without independent recollection, based on the videotape and the still photographs, is based on a very specific judgment about which cards were placed down in what order?
We have had a photocopy repair person since 8:30 this morning working on our machines.