📄 Direct examination of Dr. Werner Spitz (part 3) — Friday, November 8, 1996
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Direct examination of Dr. Werner Spitz (part 3)

Witness: Dr. Werner Spitz
Examiner: Robert Baker
Called by: Defense • Date: Friday, November 8, 1996 • Utterances: 225
Dr. Werner Spitz testified about the mechanics of Ron Goldman's death, explaining that the fatal aorta wound caused massive internal bleeding with minimal external blood — meaning little would have transferred to the assailant. He then examined multiple photos of OJ Simpson's finger taken June 13, 1994, and methodically identified several wounds as fingernail marks consistent with a victim trying to break free from a restraining hold, directly linking Simpson's injuries to the murders.
1 Q:

How long did the struggle take between Ron Goldman and the person that killed him?

2 A:

It is my opinion that this struggle took around a minute, give or take.

3 Q:

And what is the basis for your opinion that it took a minute, give or take?

4 A:

Primarily, the nature of the injuries, the injury in the left flank was one that would have been incapacitating in very, very short time because what it did -- What it caused is a near immediate fall of the blood pressure, which means that because the blood oozes out from the circulation in the body, from the blood circulation in the body, there is not enough blood to reach the brain.

A person loses ability to stand up, loses ability to think, becomes woozy and in very short order, becomes disabled.

The rest of the injuries, the superficial injuries in the fight, you have to understand that many of these injuries occurred together in one movement. There is a lot of movement in this kind of a situation.

And when the knife is wielded there and you use it to stab, there may be a superficial injury in one place, the victim moves, and sustains a second and a third injury by the same wielding of the knife.

So, yeah, there are a number of -- or a significant number of superficial injuries and four or five other deep wounds. But as the deep wound is inflicted, there is a scrape, a scraping of the tip of the knife causing superficial cuts in other places, and then the thrust, which penetrates.

So you have to understand that there is not a lapse of time between wounds. It all goes in one context.

5 Q:

Let me put on the board, a chart.

6 (Counsel displays cross-sectioned diagram of torso.)
7 Q:

(BY MR. MEDVENE) Would you, with the Court's permission, would like to approach the chart and please tell me what the chart depicts?

8 A:

May I approach, Your Honor.

9 THE COURT:

You may.

10 MR. MEDVENE:

Exhibit numbers 2025. You have it.

11 MR. GELBLUM:

He has it.

12 (Indicating to pointer.)
13 MR. MEDVENE:

Sorry.

14 MR. BAKER:

Is there a question pending?

15 MR. MEDVENE:

Yes. I asked what the chart depicts?

16 DR. WERNER SPITZ:

When we speak about the abdomen --

17 MR. BAKER:

I'm going to move to strike as nonresponsive and ask the Court have him answer the question.

18 THE COURT:

Describe what the chart is.

19 DR. WERNER SPITZ:

I'm sorry.

20 THE COURT:

Yes. Describe the chart.

21 DR. WERNER SPITZ:

The chart depicts or the chart shows a cut through the middle of the body. The middle of the body in the area of the stab wound in the left flank.

In other words, here is the tab wound of the left flank. This chart shows the body cut through this area, and we are looking down on the cut. And what it shows, is that the abdominal cavity, the abdomen, the belly, is divided into two compartments.

The front compartment, which is shown in green, contains the liver, the stomach, the small and large intestines, but not the kidneys and not the adrenal glands and not the aorta. And not the vertebral column. The vertebral column is behind --

22 Q:

Where "L" is?

23 A:

Where "L" is. "L" stands for lumbar because it's the lumbar level of the vertebral column. This is a vertebral body. And there's muscle on each side of the vertebral body.

And the stab wound goes through the muscle and into the aorta and through the aorta.

It goes into the aorta, makes a half-inch cut and comes out of the aorta, makes another half-inch cut.

24 Q:

Does the tip --

25 A:

And the tip of the blade, which already I said earlier in the morning, that one of the wounds I believe in Ronald Brown (sic) --

26 Q:

Ronald Goldman?

27 A:

I'm sorry, Ron Goldman was made by the tip of the blade. So it is a knife with a tip. The tip of the blade, just the tip pierces or enters the sac, the membrane of the sac -- the wall of the sac that contains the organs in the front compartment causing a small amount of injury, causing a small amount of bleeding.

28 Q:

Does that account --

29 A:

That accounts for three ounces of blood in this large cavity which contains the intestine and the liver and the large intestine.

30 Q:

Does that cavity, as a general rule, have any blood in it?

31 A:

Normally, there's no blood in there. Normally, there's no free blood anywhere in the body.

32 Q:

By free blood, we mean what?

33 A:

Blood that is outside of blood vessels.

34 Q:

Okay. Go ahead.

35 A:

Except if there's an injury. When the aorta was injured, you can see the aorta is in the white area, not in the abdominal cavity, in the other compartment which contains the vertebral body, the kidneys, and the aorta.

The aorta is situated to the left of the vertebral column.

The wound track from the left flank into the aorta was measured at five and a half inches. It goes through the muscle.

36 Q:

By wound track, what do we mean?

37 A:

The track from the line of the knife, through the tissues, from the entrance into the flank until it pierced the aorta.

All this space here lined the sac containing the organs, was filled with blood because the aorta seized the aorta, when the damage causes the bleeding into this area.

This area behind the front compartment contained quarts of blood. Liters of blood.

38 Q:

Now, to the right is -- could you make --

39 A:

To the right.

40 Q:

Do you relate the drawing to the right, to what you're explaining to the jury now?

41 A:

To the right is an enlargement of this area here.

42 Q:

This area?

43 A:

This area meaning the area where the knife has gone through the aorta, comes out of the aorta on the other side and the tip of the knife pierces the membrane, which is call the peritoneum.

44 Q:

So --

45 A:

This whole area here, in medical language is called the peritoneal cavity because it is surrounded by a membrane called the peritoneum.

46 Q:

And all of the blood then?

47 A:

All the blood accumulated in the back compartment, in the compartment behind the peritoneum called the retroperitoneal compartment that is what this white area is, which also contains the vertebral column, the aorta, the muscles along the spine, along the vertebral column.

48 Q:

Does the -- does the chest cavity have any blood?

49 A:

No. The chest cavity has a few -- has maybe a fifth of an ounce of fluid that is there to lubricate the surface, but contains no blood.

50 Q:

So all of the blood went to the area you described?

51 A:

All the blood, as soon as the aorta was cut, head into the space behind the peritoneum.

52 Q:

In terms of the chest cavity, does it generally have blood or you're talking about in this particular case?

53 A:

The chest cavity has no blood. There is no free blood anywhere in the body except if there is an injury to a blood vessel.

54 Q:

Now --

55 A:

When I say free blood I mean loose blood, blood that's shed.

56 Q:

Now, you mentioned and explain to us the hundred milliliters to 200 in the abdominal cavity?

57 A:

100 ml is described at the autopsy. One milliliter means three and a third ounce.

58 Q:

How about the jugular vein? You had mentioned earlier that there was some cutting in the jugular vein area?

59 A:

The left jugular vein was cut. In fact, the left jugular vein was severed.

60 Q:

Now --

61 A:

The jugular vein is in the neck.

62 MR. BAKER:

Your Honor, can we go back to question and answer forum like we've done for years in court?

63 THE COURT:

It would be nice.

64 Q:

(BY MR. MEDVENE) Yes, sir. Would -- is the bleeding from the jugular vein similar to, or different than bleeding from the carotid artery that you described, that was slashed of Nicole Brown?

65 A:

No comparison.

66 Q:

Could you?

67 A:

No comparison at all.

68 Q:

Can you explain the difference to us?

69 A:

The carotid artery being an artery that has a lot of pressure, the heart -- can I make a drawing?

70 Q:

Yes.

71 A:

I'm not much of an artist. This is going to be very crude.

Here is the heart. The heart has two sides, the right side and the left side. The left side of the heart generates the aorta. The wall of the left side of the heart is thick. This is the wall of the left side of the heart.

When the heart pumps, it squeezes, which when it squeezes again, it has to loosen up, then it squeezes again.

When the heart pumps, it pushes blood on, under great pressure into the aorta. From the aorta, all the blood vessels to the body run off.

The blood has to come back to the heart in order to be ejected by the aorta. It comes back by way of the veins.

The veins, whereas the arteries run from the heart, the veins run to the heart.

The wall on the right side of the heart is very thin because there is no need for a lot of pumping because the blood comes back from the head and neck area into the heart by gravity.

And in the lower extremities and the abdomen and chest, it comes back because when the heart pumps and squeezes, the blood gets pushed out. But when it relaxes, it creates a vacuum and that sucks the blood back.

Veins suck, arteries eject under great pressure.

Therefore, the pressure in the jugular vein is very, very low. In fact, it can be as low as zero because there is no need for pressure from the head and neck. It runs down by gravity.

So there is -- When the jugular vein is cut, the bottom part of the jugular vein sucks. The top dribbles out, dribbles down.

72 Q:

Did the cut in Mr. Goldman's jugular vein cause outward bleeding, in your opinion?

73 A:

Very little of outward bleeding for two reasons.

First of all, there's no pressure. There's some outward trickle maybe, but furthermore, I understand that there is tissue over the jugular vein, muscle, fat, skin.

74 Q:

Is there --

75 A:

And I realize that the muscles are cut, but there not being any pressure when the trickle occurs, the trickle would not bleed outward but bleed inward, if at all.

76 Q:

Is there any description in the autopsy report of a large amount of blood in the soft tissue of the neck or the chest?

77 A:

No. There's no description. There's description that there is blood along the wound track, but no blood anywhere else.

78 Q:

Any photographs to indicate the swelling, or evidence of swelling, showing large amounts of blood in the soft tissue?

79 A:

No.

80 Q:

Of the neck or chest?

81 A:

No. There are abundant pictures of the neck and chest area and there is no swelling seen anywhere, nor is there a discoloration seen.

82 Q:

Is the cause of death in this case a large amount of blood that came from a jugular vein then?

83 A:

No. There's only one cause of death here and the cause of death here is the cut -- cuts in the aorta.

KEY QUOTE
84 Q:

How long before Mr. Goldman would become incapacitated and die if he received the two stab wounds that you describe to the aorta?

85 A:

Mr. Goldman would have been incapacitated and collapsed as he bleed. He's unconscious. He's still bleeding, his heart is still trying to contract weaker and weaker and weaker.

86 MR. BAKER:

Move to strike as nonresponsive as to time, Your Honor.

87 THE COURT:

Strike --

88 Q:

(BY MR. MEDVENE) About --

89 A:

Consequently.

90 MR. BAKER:

Could we get an answer to the question, not consequently.

91 Q:

(BY MR. MEDVENE) Approximately how long would it take for him to die?

92 A:

It may take him several minutes to die, but he is dying from the moment the aorta is cut.

KEY QUOTE
93 Q:

Is there, in your opinion, because of the nature of the bleeding you described, a likelihood of much blood, if any, going on to the assailant?

94 MR. BAKER:

Asked and answered.

95 THE COURT:

Overruled.

96 DR. WERNER SPITZ:

No.

Because Mr. Goldman did not bleed externally to a great extent.

The bleeding in the thigh bled into the pants, and stained the pants. There is some bleeding from the other wounds, and possibly there is some blood coming out on the knife as it is withdrawn between stab wounds. But that doesn't necessarily come on the assailant.

And if it does, there would be splatters and not tremendous large amounts of bleeding. This bleeding from the aorta is within tissue of the back, the compartment of the abdominal area.

97 Q:

Let me move to a different area.

We would mark the drawing, Your Honor, as next in order, which I believe is 2160.

98 THE CLERK:

2161.

99 MR. MEDVENE:

2161.

100 THE COURT:

So marked.

101 (The instrument herein referred to as drawing of heart done by Dr.'Spitz was marked for identification as Plaintiffs' Exhibit No. 2161.)
102 A:

Yes. I'm of the opinion that all of the injuries of both victims could have been inflicted by one individual, by a single individual.

103 Q:

And what do you base that on?

104 A:

First of all, I base that on the fact that the injuries on Nicole took 15 seconds or less. And when I say 15 seconds, I'm being very generous with time. I think probably less.

Once she was cut in the throat, they -- she was inactive. She was collapsed. Instantaneously, immediately. The nature and the locations of the wounds is, for practical purposes, the same or very similar in both people.

Having said that my opinion is that one assailant caused these two -- The injuries in both people.

105 Q:

Is there any evidence, in your judgment, that more than one knife was used?

106 A:

No. The injuries are totally compatible with a single knife.

107 Q:

Could all of the injuries be caused by a single edged knife?

108 A:

Yes.

109 Q:

What is a single edge knife?

110 A:

A single edged knife is a knife -- may I go to the board?

111 Q:

Yes.

112 (Witness draws another diagram.)
113 A:

A single edge knife is a knife that has a sharp edge on one side and not the other. The other side is blunt.

A double edged knife is one that has a sharp edge on one side and a sharp edge on the other. That would be a knife that is sometimes referred to as stiletto would sometimes be referred to as a stiletto-type knife.

114 Q:

Dr. Spitz, you discussed the altercation, the fight between the assailant and the two victims. Would the assailant, in your opinion, have any injuries on his person or marks on his person as a result of the struggle?

115 MR. BAKER:

Calls for speculation.

116 THE COURT:

Overruled.

117 DR. WERNER SPITZ:

In the course of the struggle, there is holding of the victims, each one from the back where the victim, obviously being unarmed and capacity -- and rendered incapacitated by the hold, trying to get away. During this holding, the victim one or the other, or both, tried to remove the arm and hand from the hold.

During -- and this is a desperate attempt on the part of the victim.

During this desperate attempt, injuries from fingernails are likely to be inflicted to the -- holding the extremity, to the hold of the assailant.

118 Q:

Would you put on the board please exhibit 171.

119 THE COURT:

Who you talking to?

120 MR. MEDVENE:

I'm sorry, Your Honor. Would you please put on the TV monitor, exhibit 171?

121 (Exhibit 171 is displayed.)
122 (The instrument herein referred to as a photo description card of O.J. Simpson's finger was marked for identification as Plaintiffs' Exhibit No. 171)
123 Q:

(BY MR. MEDVENE) Photo of Mr. Simpson's finger. Can you look at that photograph that we've stated, for the record, was taken June 13, some time in the afternoon and tell us what you observed?

124 A:

I observed the middle finger with an injury over the -- roughly, middle of the finger which oozes which is swollen, as evident from the highlights around and from the general appearance of swelling. And there is some discoloration and there is some blood around from this injury.

And there is a second injury in this area here.

125 Q:

I just placed before you, the actual photos.

126 A:

Yes. And there is a second injury which is not terribly well visible on this picture, but it's very well visible on the picture that you handed me. Here, in this area, there's a second injury.

127 Q:

That's above the nail?

128 A:

I'm sorry?

129 Q:

It's above the nail. I'm trying to describe it for the record.

130 A:

No, it's not. It's below the nail.

131 Q:

Below the nail?

132 A:

But it's on the finger. It's right here. There's one injury here, there's one injury here and there is something here, which I'm not quite certain of, but is an injury -- this is an injury and both are in my judgment fingernail marks.

133 Q:

Let's go to 172.

134 (Exhibit 172 is displayed.)
135 A:

This is the picture that was originally shown to me, and it shows the same that 187 shows, except it's out of focus and shows it less well.

136 Q:

When you said 187, that would be 171, sir?

137 A:

171.

138 Q:

Yes, sir.

139 A:

It's the same area and the same injury.

140 Q:

All right. There was reference made yesterday to exhibit 714 and 715 and, Steve, would you -- would you put on the board, number 9 from, I believe, 715.

141 (Mr. Foster complies.)
142 Q:

Shown yesterday, I believe, during Dr. Huizenga's testimony.

I'm going to place a copy of that in front of you, placing four pictures in front of you. First one is, I believe, number 9. You can look on the back and I ask you, if you would, look on the TV monitor, tell us what marks, if any, you observe.

Let's start with that and then what I'm going to ask you to do, is circle those marks on the exhibit, the colored laser print that's in front of you.

143 A:

Let me be sure that I understood. You want me to explain the picture?

144 Q:

Yes.

145 A:

On the monitor and then circle what I've talked about on the picture on the -- on the -- on this ticket (indicating)?

146 Q:

Yes, sir.

147 A:

Okay.

148 MR. BAKER:

Your Honor, this is the same picture he just talked about. This is cumulative, sir.

149 THE COURT:

Overruled.

150 MR. BAKER:

The same cuts. I have an objection.

151 THE COURT:

Overruled.

152 DR. WERNER SPITZ:

This picture shows the same injury that we have talked about, except later.

153 Q:

(BY MR. MEDVENE) Okay.

154 A:

And they show less swelling and more detail of the wounds. Because the swelling has subsided and the wounds are not oozing any more.

The detail of the wounds is noticeable to a much better -- in a much better way. What you are seeing is the wounds on the inside on the -- on the outside of the finger. And the wounds over the middle joint of the finger, which is what I described earlier. Both wounds now are much more explicit with regards to being fingernail marks.

You see the curvature on both, which is compatible with the curvature of the fingernail and they -- the location of these wounds on the hand is the result of this hand being exposed to the victim's hand when the removal -- attempt to remove this hand was in progress.

155 Q:

Would you please circle --

156 A:

I did.

157 Q:

May we mark this document 2162, Your Honor?

158 (The instrument herein referred to as a photo of hand with wounds was marked for identification as Plaintiffs' Exhibit No. 2162.)
159 THE COURT:

So marked.

160 Q:

(BY MR. MEDVENE) Going to display quickly on the screen what you marked, and ask for the record, if those are the places where you say there were fingernail marks.

161 (Witness indicates with pointer.)
162 Q:

Yes, sir. Let's go, if we can, to another photo introduced yesterday, number 13, I believe, of 715. Is this a different mark than we previously observed or you previously talked about on 2162?

163 A:

This is a different mark. This is a different mark. These are two different marks.

164 Q:

Could you identify?

165 A:

And again, here, this is -- this is one. And this is the other.

166 Q:

The one is the one you said was the one -- was about where on the ruler?

167 A:

The one on this would be at the level of two-and-a-half inches.

168 Q:

All right.

169 A:

Two-and-a-half inches.

170 Q:

All right.

171 A:

Two-and-a-quarter to two-and-a-half inches.

172 Q:

And the other one you pointed out?

173 A:

And the other one is at one and three-quarters, approximately.

174 Q:

And what?

175 A:

So --

176 Q:

What do those marks --

177 A:

Those are, again, you'll have the curvature here. You'll have the raggedness of the edge of the -- raggedness of the edge here. You have a piece of tissue hanging out of this one.

178 Q:

What are those marks?

179 A:

Those are fingernail marks.

180 Q:

Could those marks be from a cut glass?

181 A:

No. Those are not cuts. These are injuries that were caused by -- not by sharp force, but by semi-blunt force.

182 Q:

We'll mark it 2163. Would you be good enough to circle on what you have, I believe it's 13, in front of you and could you also initial it, please?

183 A:

Initial it?

184 Q:

Yes, sir.

185 Q:

I'm going to ask you, with the Court's permission, if you could also initial 2162.

186 (Witness complies.)
187 Q:

Thank you. Could you put on the screen, may we mark this 2163, Your Honor? j.

Would you put 2163 on the board, please.

188 (The instrument herein referred to as Photo with circles drawn by witness was marked for identification as Plaintiffs' Exhibit No. 2163.)
189 Q:

Are those what you described as fingernail marks?

190 A:

Yes.

191 Q:

Let me put back on the board for a moment, 2162.

192 (Exhibit 2162 is displayed.)
193 Q:

I'm sorry, let me put back on the TV screen, the monitor, 2162.

And I ask you if what you have marked there in your picture, those marks could have been caused by a glass cut?

194 A:

No. These are not glass cuts.

195 Q:

Thank you.

196 A:

These are not sharp injuries. These are not caused by a glass and these are not caused by a knife.

197 Q:

If we can -- thank you.

If we can go now to number 8 of 715.

Another picture of Mr. Simpson's finger that was shown yesterday.

198 (Number 8 of Exhibit 715 is displayed on screen.)
199 Q:

Do you see any marks on his finger that you could identify for the jury?

200 A:

Yes. There are two gouges. Gouges mean, where the upper layer of the skin has been scooped out and it's gone. On both, here in the front, which is the inner aspect of the base of the left index finger on my hand. This would be right there.

201 Q:

Which is this one?

202 A:

This one is on the rib of the thumb, which is where I'm showing now (indicating to his own hand).

These two are scooped out gouges by fingernail marks. They are typical for that.

203 Q:

Those two marks consistent with being a cut which glass?

204 A:

No. These are not glass cuts.

205 Q:

Would you be good enough, mark on the laser print before you, what we've marked as 2164, the inner nail marks that you described.

206 (Witness complies.)
207 Q:

And initial it, please.

208 (The instrument herein referred to as a photo of flesh with marks was marked for identification as Plaintiffs' Exhibit No. 2164.)
209 Q:

Put that up and identify, for purposes of the record, what those marks are, the ones that you described. Are those the marks?

210 A:

Yes. Yes, sir.

211 (Displayed photo with circle marks by witness.)
212 Q:

Are there any photographs you -- Strike that.

You have talked earlier about a text that you edited and wrote?

213 A:

Yes.

214 Q:

In that text, are there any photographs of fingerprints or -- excuse me.

215 A:

Fingernail marks.

216 Q:

Fingernail marks?

217 A:

Yes, there are.

218 Q:

And have you -- strike that.

We'll put on the board -- put on the board what's been marked 1973.

219 MS. BLUESTEIN:

Screen.

220 THE COURT:

Excuse me, we'll put on the monitor what's been marked as 1973.

221 (Exhibit 1973 is displayed.)
222 (The instrument herein referred to as Photo of hand with fingernail marks was marked for identification as Plaintiffs' Exhibit No. 1973.)
223 A:

This is a hand with fingernail marks. This is not in focus.

224 MR. BAKER:

Wait a minute. I'm going to object to this. Take that off the screen. I want to approach.

225 THE COURT:

Okay. Take it off.

Temperature

tense

Key Quotes (4)

Werner Spitz
Veins suck, arteries eject under great pressure.
Blunt anatomical summary distinguishing the severed jugular vein from the carotid artery — used to establish that Goldman's wounds produced minimal external bleeding and thus minimal blood transfer to the assailant.
Werner Spitz
There's only one cause of death here and the cause of death here is the cut -- cuts in the aorta.
Definitive statement eliminating the jugular wound as a contributing cause of death and focusing causation on the deep internal wound.
Werner Spitz
Both wounds now are much more explicit with regards to being fingernail marks. You see the curvature on both, which is compatible with the curvature of the fingernail.
Direct identification of wounds on Simpson's finger as victim fingernail marks — one of the most damaging forensic conclusions against Simpson in this proceeding.
Werner Spitz
It may take him several minutes to die, but he is dying from the moment the aorta is cut.
Establishes the drawn-out, agonizing nature of Goldman's death while also implying the assailant had time to maintain control of the scene.

Evidence (8)

Plaintiffs' 2161
Cross-sectioned anatomical diagram of torso showing aorta stab wound track and two body compartments
Displayed at board; witness gave extended explanation of wound mechanics and retroperitoneal bleeding
Plaintiffs' 2161 (heart drawing)
Freehand drawing of the heart and circulatory system made by Dr. Spitz during testimony
Created in court to explain arterial vs. venous pressure; marked as exhibit
Plaintiffs' 171
Photo of OJ Simpson's finger taken June 13, 1994 afternoon showing oozing, swollen wounds
Displayed on TV monitor; witness identified two injuries as fingernail marks
Plaintiffs' 172
Second photo of same finger injury, described as out of focus
Displayed for comparison
Plaintiffs' 715 (photo 9) / 2162
Later photo of Simpson's finger with reduced swelling and greater wound detail
Witness circled and initialed fingernail marks; marked as new exhibit
Plaintiffs' 715 (photo 13) / 2163
Photo showing two additional fingernail marks at measured positions (2.25–2.5 inches and 1.75 inches), with visible tissue fragment
Witness circled, initialed, and described curvature and raggedness consistent with fingernails
+ 2 more

Notable Exchanges (4)

Robert BakerHiroshi Fujisaki
Baker complained mid-testimony about the absence of strict question-and-answer format; Judge Fujisaki responded 'It would be nice' — a mild but pointed rebuke of Medvene's narrative-style direct.
dry
Werner SpitzEdward Medvene
Spitz accidentally referred to Ron Goldman as 'Ronald Brown'; Medvene corrected him and Spitz apologized. Minor slip but notable given the subject matter.
awkward
Werner SpitzRobert BakerHiroshi Fujisaki
Baker objected twice that the finger photo testimony was cumulative ('This is the same picture he just talked about'); both overruled, allowing Spitz to systematically identify multiple distinct fingernail marks across several exhibits.
strategic
Robert BakerHiroshi Fujisaki
Baker abruptly objected to exhibit 1973 (fingernail comparison photo from Spitz's textbook) and demanded to approach the bench — transcript ends at this point, suggesting a significant admissibility dispute.
heated

Light Moments (2)

Hiroshi Fujisaki
After Baker complained about the free-flowing examination, Judge Fujisaki deadpanned 'It would be nice' — a dry judicial acknowledgment without actual rebuke.
Werner Spitz
Spitz's blunt anatomical one-liner: 'Veins suck, arteries eject under great pressure' — cut through dense medical testimony with memorable directness.

Witness Demeanor

(Counsel displays cross-sectioned diagram of torso.)
(Indicating to pointer.)
(Witness draws another diagram of heart and circulatory system on board.)
(Witness indicates with pointer on photo.)
(Witness complies — circles and initials marks on laser print photos.)
(Displayed photo with circle marks drawn by witness.)

Objections

7 objections (2 sustained, 4 overruled)
Proceeding 8210 • 225 utterances • Defense witness
Civil Trial
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