📄 Direct examination of Gilbert Aguilar — Tuesday, December 17, 1996
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Direct examination of Gilbert Aguilar

Witness: Gilbert Aguilar
Examiner: Robert Blasier
Called by: Defense • Date: Tuesday, December 17, 1996 • Utterances: 156
Defense forensic print specialist Gilbert Aguilar testified about the 17 latent fingerprints recovered from the Bundy crime scene and vehicles. He walked the jury through each print's location, identifiability, and attribution, concluding that none of the 17 prints were matched to OJ Simpson. Nine prints were identifiable but remain unmatched to any of the 60-plus individuals compared, including police officers, Nicole's acquaintances, and Simpson himself.
1 MR. BLASIER:

Defense calls Gilbert Aguilar.

GILBERT AGUILAR, called as a witness on behalf of the Defendant, was duly sworn and testified as follows:

2 THE CLERK:

You do solemnly swear that the testimony you may give in the cause now pending before this court shall be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God?

3 GILBERT AGUILAR:

I do.

4 THE BAILIFF:

Please be seated.

5 THE CLERK:

Sir, would you please state and spell your name for the record.

6 GILBERT AGUILAR:

Gilbert Aguilar, G-i-l-b-e-r-t A-g-u-i-l-a-r.

DIRECT EXAMINATION BY MR. BLASIER:

7 Q:

Mr. Aguilar, by whom are you employed?

8 A:

I am employed by the Los Angeles Police Department.

9 Q:

In what capacity?

10 A:

I'm a forensic print specialist assigned to the Scientific Investigations Division in the latent print section.

11 Q:

Can you describe briefly for the jury what a latent fingerprint is?

12 A:

Well, a latent fingerprint is the reproduction of the friction skin left on an object, which when you touch it, it's usually invisible and must be made visible using fingerprint powders, using chemicals, or you could use a laser.

When I talk about friction skin, I'm talking about the skin found on your fingers, the palms of your hands. You also have friction skin on your toes and the soles of your feet. It's different than the other skin on your body, where it has these ridges that flow across them.

The unique thing about these ridges is they don't just flow from one end to the other, what they do is they'll flow and they will stop. At the point where they stop we call those ending ridges. Another thing these ridges will do is they will flow and they will divide into two ridges. At the point where they divide we call those bifurcations, because -- everybody has these ridge endings and bifurcations throughout their entire friction skin, but what makes a print unique, a fingerprint unique, is where they are in relationship to each other.

13 Q:

When you use the term "unique," are you talking about the ability of latent fingerprints to, under some circumstances, uniquely identify a single person?

14 A:

Correct. That no two people in the world will have the same fingerprints or palm prints.

15 Q:

And how long have you been an expert in forensic fingerprints?

16 A:

Been with the police department working fingerprints for over 19 years now.

17 Q:

And approximately how many latent print comparisons have you done during your career?

18 A:

Oh, in the hundreds of thousands.

19 Q:

And have you testified as an expert many times?

20 A:

Yes, over 600 times.

21 Q:

Now, you were -- at some point you were assigned to examine fingerprints that were collected at 875 South Bundy after the Simpson homicide, correct?

22 A:

Yes.

23 MR. BLASIER:

Could we show a board here.

THE COURT REPORTER: Do we have a number on that?

MR. P. BAKER: That exhibit number is 4 --

24 MR. FOSTER:

409 (sic).

MR. P. BAKER: 409 (sic).

25 (Exhibit 408 displayed.)
26 Q:

(BY MR. BLASIER) Mr. Aguilar, can you see this large board from where you're sitting?

27 A:

Most of it.

28 Q:

To orient yourself, this appears to be an overhead view of the crime scene at 875 South Bundy?

29 A:

Yes.

30 Q:

You recognize this as being the front door area?

31 A:

Yes.

32 Q:

Now, is it correct that there were 17 latent fingerprints found in the area of 875 South Bundy by the specialist who took those latent prints?

33 A:

Yes.

34 Q:

And at this time I would put 1303 -- actually, let me show you 1303 first.

35 THE CLERK:

For the record, this last Exhibit was 408.

36 (Exhibit 1303 displayed.)
37 Q:

Why don't you tell me what 1303 is, or tell the jury.

38 A:

1303 is a two-page document. It's a homicide investigation report. Wherever a homicide has occurred, and we respond to that homicide and recover latent prints, we'll document where the prints were recovered on this, and hand it over to the investigator.

39 Q:

Now -- and this includes all 17 latent prints from the Bundy scene?

40 A:

Yes.

41 Q:

Now, when you receive the latent fingerprints that have been obtained, you compare them to known individuals to see whether or not they match up?

42 A:

Yes.

43 Q:

Are there other ways that you can compare to determine whether you can identify the person who left the fingerprint?

44 A:

Yes.

45 Q:

Describe what those other methods are?

46 A:

Well, the other method would be through the fingerprint computer which is called AFIS, the Automatic Fingerprint Identification System, and we're able to run somebody's fingerprints through the system to find out whose prints they are if the person has a record or has applied and had their prints on file, it should match it up.

And one thing about the AFIS system, it only -- you can only run fingers; in fact, just the first joint of the finger. The computer cannot read the second or third joint of the finger or palm or footprints.

47 Q:

Now, in this case were you asked to compare the 17 latent fingerprints that were found at the Bundy scene with various known individuals?

48 A:

Yes.

49 Q:

And did that include any of the police officers that might have been at the scene at 875 South Bundy?

50 A:

Yes.

51 Q:

Did it include any members of or acquaintances of Nicole Brown Simpson?

52 A:

Yes.

53 Q:

Can you tell me about how many people you used for comparison purposes?

54 A:

All together, must be around 60, or over 60 individuals.

55 Q:

And included among those individuals, Mr. Simpson?

56 A:

Yes.

57 Q:

And is it accurate that Mr. Simpson's -- that none of these 17 latent fingerprints were identified as coming from Mr. Simpson?

KEY QUOTE
58 A:

That's correct.

59 Q:

Now, I'd like to go through just 1 through 17, and could you tell us -- you may want to use the pointer, if you could, where each one of these 17 prints was located and what you were able to determine about each one?

60 A:

Okay.

We are able to use the original lifts.

61 Q:

Sure, if you like, use the original lifts.

Before you do that, let me ask you a question.

What's another difference between an identifiable latent fingerprint and an unidentifiable latent fingerprint?

62 A:

An identifiable latent fingerprint means there's enough in the print to positively identify, if you had somebody's prints, if you had their inked fingers or inked palms.

A non-identified print or unidentifiable print means the latent print itself lacks sufficient characteristics to positively identify that print to an individual.

63 Q:

Is it accurate that among the 17 prints that you're going to tell us about there are some of both kinds?

64 A:

Yes.

65 Q:

And there are some that you have been able to identify as being associated with a particular individual, correct?

66 A:

Yes.

67 Q:

Okay.

Could we start with No. 1, and perhaps if you like, you can step down and indicate on the board where each one came from and what you were able to tell about it.

68 (Witness approaches Exhibit 408.)
69 A:

Okay.

No. 1, the latent print was recovered from the inside front door frame. That would be the same -- the door frame as in where I'm indicating up here.

70 (Indicating to Exhibit 408.)
71 Q:

That's correct.

And what were you able to tell about that latent fingerprint?

72 A:

That latent print was the left thumb print of Nicole Simpson or Nicole Brown.

73 Q:

How about print No. 2?

74 A:

Print No. 2 was recovered from the door itself, the side of the door near the handle.

75 Q:

And what were you able to conclude about that one?

76 A:

That the print is identifiable, but it has not been identified to anybody.

77 Q:

So it's been compared to everybody that you mentioned, as well as the search of the AFIS system?

78 A:

No, it's -- this is a palm print, so it was not run through the AFIS system.

79 Q:

It was compared to all the 60 or so people you indicated?

80 A:

That's correct.

81 Q:

Including Mr. Simpson?

82 A:

That's correct.

83 Q:

It does not match any of those people?

84 A:

Right.

85 Q:

There's enough information there to identify -- uniquely identify the source of that?

86 A:

Yes.

87 Q:

Okay.

How about No. 3?

88 A:

No. 3 was located at the same location where print No. 2 was, from inside the front door near the doorknob. There was also a palm print and that print was -- also has not been identified.

89 Q:

Is it identifiable?

90 A:

Yes.

91 Q:

How about number -- up to 4?

92 A:

No. 4.

No. 4 came from the same location of where print No. 1 was from, the door frame, and it's a palm print so it wasn't able to be run through the system. And also, that print was not -- it has not been identified and it is an identifiable print.

93 Q:

No. 5?

94 A:

No. 5.

No. 5 came from a hand rail outside of the residence, was near the front door location, so it's about right in this area where there's a hand rail.

95 Q:

Okay.

96 A:

That print is a palm print and that print is non-identifiable, which means we'll never know whose it is.

97 Q:

That's because there's not enough detail?

98 A:

That's correct.

99 Q:

What's the next one?

100 A:

No. 6 came from -- from a hand rail from the outside of the location near the front entrance.

101 (Indicating to Exhibit 407.)
102 A:

There's a hand rail near the front entrance of the location.

This print is a finger, and this print was identified to one of the photographers that is employed by the police department out there, Mr. Goodwin.

103 Q:

Okay.

And the next one?

104 A:

No. 7 came from a post, a top of a gate post that is between -- I believe the gate post is about right in this location or it was near a gate, the small gate. I believe it's right over here.

105 (Indicating.)
106 Q:

That's a gate in the area of the walkway going toward the back?

107 A:

Right. It's a small gate. It was on top of the post. This print was also non-identifiable which means we'll never find out who this print belongs to.

108 (Indicating to Exhibit 408.)
109 Q:

Next one?

110 A:

No. 8 was from a hand rail. Right at the stairs, stairs coming down, there was a hand rail.

111 (Indicating.)
112 A:

That print is a palm print and it's identifiable, but the print has not been identified.

113 Q:

Now, when you say some of those will never be identified, can you say whether or not Mr. Simpson could be eliminated?

114 A:

No.

115 Q:

Okay. You can't.

Basically, there's just not enough information to tell anything about them?

116 A:

That's correct.

117 Q:

How about the next one?

118 A:

The next one was also from the hand rail, from a rail near the front of the house.

This print is also a print that is non-identifiable.

119 Q:

Next one?

120 A:

The next one was from the -- outside the gated entrance to the front of the house, the gate right here. That print was recovered from there. And this print was -- in fact, there's two fingers on it, the left index and left middle finger of Detective Ron Phillips with the Los Angeles Police Department.

121 Q:

Now, exactly where was that one, on the gate, did you say?

122 A:

Yes, it was. It was a gate. There's a latch on the gate. It was just above the latch.

123 (Indicating to Exhibit 408.)
124 Q:

Okay.

And then after --

125 A:

The next one was recovered from inside the house; it was the outside of the bathroom door between the living room and the kitchen. There's a -- I believe it was a small bathroom.

126 Q:

There's not a lot of detail.

127 A:

There was a small bathroom right around this location, between the living room and the kitchen, and it was on the south side of the door.

And this print is identifiable. In fact, it was identified to a Faye Resnick.

128 Q:

And the next one?

129 A:

The next one was off of a package of Marlboro Lights that was found in the master bedroom on the back of the toilet.

This print was identified to Nicole Brown.

130 Q:

And the next one?

131 A:

The next one was -- or the next five were off of vehicles.

132 Q:

So you described all of the latent prints that were obtained from the Bundy scene, correct?

133 A:

Right.

134 Q:

And what's the total number of those?

135 A:

12.

136 Q:

Okay.

And of those 12, to summarize, how many of those were identifiable but you couldn't identify the source?

137 A:

Four.

138 Q:

Now, when you say the other -- the other, I guess, five prints were from vehicles, you're talking about vehicles that were at 875 South Bundy?

139 A:

Yes.

140 Q:

Why don't you tell us about each of those five, what you were able to determine, what vehicle they came from?

141 A:

Yes. Three of them came off of a white Ferrari; got a print off of the hood, a print off the driver side -- the outside of the window, another one off of the Ferrari, off the driver side on the front door.

They were -- all three prints were all identifiable and all three have not been identified.

142 Q:

Now, that Ferrari, is it accurate that that was inside the garage at 875 South Bundy?

143 A:

Yes.

144 Q:

And how about the remaining two?

145 A:

Yes. The other two were recovered from a Jeep Cherokee, black in color, both prints recovered from the outside passenger side, rear fender. Both are palm prints, both are identifiable, and both of them have not been identified.

146 Q:

So what would be, of the 17 prints, the total number that were identifiable, but Mr. Simpson has been eliminated from, and you've not been able to identify the source?

147 A:

Nine.

148 MR. BLASIER:

That's all I have.

149 MR. BAKER:

Bob.

150 MR. BLASIER:

Oops, sorry.

151 (Mr. Baker and Mr. Blasier converse sotto voce.)
152 Q:

(BY MR. BLASIER) Mr. Aguilar, was there ever any attempt to check the -- either the back gate or the front knob on the front gate for prints?

153 A:

The back gate, yes. The knob, I don't remember. I'm sure it was, but knobs are very hard to get prints off of.

154 Q:

And were there any identifiable prints on the back gate?

155 A:

No.

156 MR. BLASIER:

That's all I have.

Thank you.

CROSS-EXAMINATION BY MR. KELLY:

Temperature

procedural

Key Quotes (4)

Gilbert Aguilar
Is it accurate that Mr. Simpson's -- that none of these 17 latent fingerprints were identified as coming from Mr. Simpson? That's correct.
Central defense point: Simpson left no identifiable fingerprints at the scene where his victims were killed.
Gilbert Aguilar
Nine.
Nine identifiable prints from the Bundy scene and vehicles could not be matched to anyone — suggesting unidentified persons present at or near the crime scene.
Gilbert Aguilar
A non-identified print or unidentifiable print means the latent print itself lacks sufficient characteristics to positively identify that print to an individual.
Establishes the distinction used throughout testimony to categorize prints as definitively unidentifiable vs. identifiable but unmatched.
Robert Blasier
Was there ever any attempt to check the -- either the back gate or the front knob on the front gate for prints? ... And were there any identifiable prints on the back gate? No.
Defense establishes no usable fingerprints were recovered from the back gate, relevant to theories about how the killer accessed the property.

Evidence (3)

408
Overhead diagram of the crime scene at 875 South Bundy showing front door area and surrounding layout
displayed; used by witness to indicate locations of recovered prints
1303
Two-page homicide investigation report documenting location and recovery of all 17 latent prints from the Bundy scene
displayed; explained by witness
407
Exhibit referenced briefly when witness indicated location of print No. 6 near front entrance hand rail
referenced during testimony

Notable Exchanges (2)

Robert BlasierRobert Baker
After Blasier rested, Baker whispered to him (sotto voce), prompting Blasier to return and ask about back gate fingerprint testing. No identifiable prints were found on the back gate.
strategic
Robert BlasierGilbert Aguilar
Systematic walk-through of all 17 prints: Nicole Brown (thumb, door frame; Marlboro Lights package), Faye Resnick (bathroom door), Detective Ron Phillips (front gate above latch), photographer Goodwin (hand rail). Nine identifiable prints remain unmatched.
methodical

Light Moments (1)

Robert Blasier
After saying 'That's all I have,' Baker whispered to Blasier, prompting Blasier to say 'Oops, sorry' before returning to ask the back gate question.

Witness Demeanor

(Witness approaches Exhibit 408.)
(Indicating to Exhibit 408.)
(Indicating.)
(Indicating to Exhibit 407.)
(Mr. Baker and Mr. Blasier converse sotto voce.)

Objections

None recorded
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