📄 In-chambers: scheduling and appeals — Thursday, September 7, 1995
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▲ Day 149 of 167

In-chambers: scheduling and appeals

Date: Thursday, September 7, 1995 • Utterances: 31
Judge Ito confronts Marcia Clark in chambers over her implication that he was punishing the prosecution for pursuing appellate remedies. The exchange reveals a scheduling dispute — Clark had arranged her rebuttal presentation for Monday after the court indicated that start date, but Ito moved it up to Friday afternoon without explanation. The proceeding ends with Ito ordering a court reporter to rush-prepare a transcript of the morning's Fifth Amendment session for the appellate division.
1 (The following proceedings were held in camera:)
2 THE COURT:

Miss Clark--on the record--I think you're telling the court that you feel that I'm punishing you for exercising your rights, your appellate rights I don't think is an appropriate comment to make, especially when you know that this court's motivation is to get this jury deliberating. And if we can adjust our schedule to accommodate that, that's what I'm trying to accomplish here. I've given you what you asked, until--in fact, more than you asked for--until noon tomorrow to pursue your appellate remedies, and I don't appreciate the implication of what you're stating. What I would like to do is get this case to the jury at some point in time. Now, as the facts work out, you've lucked out as a matter of practicality because Deputy Jex came in and told me there are two medical and dental appointments tomorrow that can't be canceled tomorrow afternoon. So the jury is not available to us. So that in essence leaves us tomorrow morning and the rest of today. Do you understand my concern?

3 MS. CLARK:

Of course.

4 THE COURT:

All right.

5 MS. CLARK:

I think it's very clear I felt no differently. I have been very interested in getting this case to the jury and finishing.

6 THE COURT:

Then I'm sure I misinterpreted your remarks.

7 MS. CLARK:

I can only say that this morning, the court indicated to us that we would begin on Monday morning with rebuttal, and I arranged everything accordingly.

8 THE COURT:

Okay. Then I must have misinterpreted what you just said to me.

9 MS. CLARK:

I don't really--perhaps I'm not aware of why the court changed its mind without informing anyone of the reasons for that when initially the court had indicated we would begin rebuttal on Monday. I don't know what transpired to make the court decide we should start rebuttal Friday afternoon.

KEY QUOTE
10 THE COURT:

As I just finished explaining to you, Miss Clark, I would like to present some evidence to this jury since we've had so much downtime. They've had all of a day and a half testimony in the last 10 days.

11 MS. CLARK:

I am aware of that, but through no fault of the People.

12 THE COURT:

I understand that.

13 MS. CLARK:

So we're clear, the People have always been ready at every opportunity. We have not asked for additional time for any of the McKinny tapes, any of the McKinny, the Fuhrman witnesses, and that is what has produced a substantial delay. But--

14 THE COURT:

We're not here to argue that. What I'm asking you is, do you think I've misinterpreted what you said?

15 MS. CLARK:

No. No, I do not. That was the impression I was left with because the court did not share with me its thinking as to why the change from the earlier scheduling.

16 THE COURT:

All right. Now that we've discussed this, did we misunderstand each other's intentions at this point?

17 MS. CLARK:

Perhaps.

18 THE COURT:

All right. I'll take it at that. Now having said that, who do you have working on your appeal? Are they working on it now?

19 MS. CLARK:

Yes.

20 THE COURT:

Okay. Have you called division 5?

21 MS. CLARK:

Well, I had to leave. I asked appellate to make the contact. They said they were as I left the office. Miss Moxham, who took the hearing this morning?

22 THE COURT REPORTER:

Chris took the majority this morning and I took the afternoon argument and the ruling.

23 THE COURT:

Michelle, would you ask ms. Olson to step in, please?

24 (Brief pause.)
25 (Court reporter Olson is now present in chambers.)
26 THE COURT:

Miss Olson, would you put together a transcript of this morning's session with regard to the 5th amendment issue right now.

COURT REPORTER OLSON: Yes, sir. Is that it?

27 THE COURT:

That's it.

28 COURT REPORTER OLSON:

You need it?

29 THE COURT:

Need it by the end of business.

30 COURT REPORTER OLSON:

Okay.

31 THE COURT:

Then I need you to change places with Miss Moxham so that she can do likewise. Apparently you split that. All right. Off the record.

Temperature

tense

Key Quotes (4)

Lance A. Ito
I think you're telling the court that you feel that I'm punishing you for exercising your rights, your appellate rights I don't think is an appropriate comment to make, especially when you know that this court's motivation is to get this jury deliberating.
Ito opens by directly confronting Clark's implication — a rare moment of a judge explicitly defending his own motives on the record.
Marcia Clark
I don't really--perhaps I'm not aware of why the court changed its mind without informing anyone of the reasons for that when initially the court had indicated we would begin rebuttal on Monday.
Clark holds her ground diplomatically — she's not backing down, framing her complaint as a procedural grievance rather than a personal accusation.
Marcia Clark
We have not asked for additional time for any of the McKinny tapes, any of the McKinny, the Fuhrman witnesses, and that is what has produced a substantial delay.
Clark explicitly attributes the trial's 10-day slowdown to the defense's Fuhrman/McKinny maneuvering, deflecting Ito's frustration about jury downtime.
Lance A. Ito
They've had all of a day and a half testimony in the last 10 days.
Quantifies the extraordinary amount of jury downtime that was driving the judge's urgency to push rebuttal forward.

Notable Exchanges (2)

Lance A. ItoMarcia Clark
Ito challenges Clark over her implication that he punished the prosecution for pursuing an appeal; Clark declines to fully walk it back, instead citing the unexplained scheduling change as the source of her concern. Ito ultimately accepts a mutual 'misunderstanding' framing.
tense, restrained
Lance A. ItoCourt Reporter Olson
Ito orders Olson to prepare a same-day transcript of the morning's Fifth Amendment session for the appellate division, splitting the work with reporter Moxham who covered part of the session.
procedural

Objections

None recorded
Proceeding 7547 • 31 utterances
Criminal Trial
Department 103
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