📄 Objections to prior closing argument and photographs — Friday, September 29, 1995
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Objections to prior closing argument and photographs

Date: Friday, September 29, 1995 • Utterances: 36
Before the jury entered, defense attorneys raised multiple objections to the prosecution's closing argument from the previous day, including improper vouching, misstatement of evidence regarding shoeprints, and inflammatory references to OJ Simpson handing bags to Robert Kardashian. Cochran also objected to still photographs the prosecution planned to display during rebuttal. Judge Ito overruled all objections but issued a stern warning to both sides about facial expressions and gestures in front of the jury.
1 (The following proceedings were held in open court, out of the presence of the jury:)
2 THE COURT:

Counsel, have a seat, please.

3 (Brief pause.)
4 THE COURT:

All right. Back on the record. All parties are again present. Deputy Smith, let's have the jurors, please.

5 MR. SCHECK:

Your Honor, before the jury comes in could we address the court?

6 THE COURT:

One issue, yes.

7 MR. SCHECK:

Your Honor, when I began my closing argument yesterday there was an objection that Miss Clark made with respect to improper argument which she misheard the testimony and we said I believe an innocent man was accused and the transcript bore it out. However, I do have some concerns here with respect to improper vouching. I think it is improper to make an argument to the jury that Marcia and I are the ones with courage. That is classic improper vouching. I don't think a District Attorney is allowed to say that in closing argument and that is why we objected. I think it is improper for the District Attorney to talk about I prosecute police officers so I know. The implication is either, A, don't worry, I will take care of mark Fuhrman, I will prosecute; B, if Detective Vannatter is lying, don't worry, I would know that. I think that is improper vouching. I think it is improper to make an argument everybody knows he is guilty. That is wrong. I don't think that that kind of argument is permissible. I think it is impermissible. If they wanted to call an expert about domestic violence, that is one thing, but I think it is impermissible to say I know a lot about certain things with respect to domestic violence issues. And most importantly, there was this whole thing where they put up the video, where as was indicated, the court had ordered that that part be redacted and indicated deception. But worse of all, he then makes an argument that Dr. Lee--that those--that infers to the jury or directly states that those shoeprints could have been left by those officers taking the blanket away when Agent Bodziak specifically testified, agreeing with Dr. Lee that they could not be, so that directly misstates the evidence.

Finally, I would make this request, because this is the Prosecution's rebuttal summation and we do not have a chance to get back up, and if there were misstatements of evidence in their opening and closing argument we were able to get back up and read transcript and correct it. If we make an argument with respect to misstating the evidence, I would respectfully request that if the court is going to overrule it, overrule it with the caveat, which I know is the thrust and substance of the court's ruling, the jury's recollection controls, because I think that is the fair and neutral way to do it. And so I make that request of the court and I would also request the court caution counsel and that we have no more of this improper vouching because I think it is an improper form of argument, and I'm talking about those specific matters.

8 THE COURT:

All right. Matter submitted?

9 MR. DARDEN:

Submitted.

10 THE COURT:

All right. The objection is noted. They are overruled. Let's have the jury, please.

11 MR. COCHRAN:

Your Honor, before that, there are a series of photographs of officers that the Prosecution expects to show that I was shown during this break, during Miss Clark's presentation, and I wanted--I have an objection I wanted to lodge.

12 THE COURT:

What is your objection?

13 MR. COCHRAN:

I think it is it is very similar to when we wanted to show the photographs of Mr. Simpson with the gloves on. That was a still. These are photographs of Riske and the various officers, Lange and the others, and we object. And with regard to the last two photographs that I was shown, that still has the KTLA channel 5 logo on those, so I wanted to lodge my objection, having just seen these things at this point. I think it is analogous and I think it is what the court has said. I haven't seen these before and I presume they would be pictures put up there that she will be testifying about.

14 THE COURT:

Is this four--four-photograph--

15 MR. COCHRAN:

No, no. I think they are one at a time. You can see them if you care to.

16 MS. CLARK:

They are still photographs of the police officers.

17 MR. COCHRAN:

Mostly police officers. I think Mazzola is in there also.

18 MS. CLARK:

They are still photos. I just told Mr. Cochran, when he said he was going to object to this, that the court overruled my objection. I had objected to the stills that they were going to use. They elected not to use them ultimately, but the court overruled it saying the stills were proper. So I made this exhibit on that ruling.

19 MR. COCHRAN:

Well, again the court can see the last photo with the KTLA seal.

20 THE COURT:

Well, the KTLA seal is irrelevant.

21 MR. COCHRAN:

I thought it was irrelevant, but you had us cover it up before, I thought. You had us cover that up. That was--

22 THE COURT:

That is at a time where the source of it was not relevant to the issue.

23 MR. COCHRAN:

All right. All right.

24 THE COURT:

All right.

25 MR. SCHECK:

Your Honor, one more--

26 THE COURT:

Noted.

27 MR. SCHECK:

--objection I want to note for the record and that is I also think it was an improper argument that Mr. Simpson gave his bags to his lawyer on the way in. First of all, there is no facts in the record establishing that Mr. Kardashian was in the act of representing Mr. Simpson at that point in time or that there was any attorney/client relationship at that point in time, and I think it is highly inflammatory and improper argument, and also, it is not in accord with the known facts in the case. And another one I think that came perilously close to with respect to the discussion of darkness at Bundy, and that is, we all were at the scene. Now, Mr. Darden wasn't, I appreciate that, on the night that we did the jury view, and I have no objection to him citing from certain specific points in the record, but I would just like it noted, we all know what the lighting was like there because we recreated the best we could and then the Prosecution chose not to take the jury on a nighttime jury view. It was their decision. And it seems to me that in terms of good faith arguments based on what is not--what is knowledge of all the parties here, that I think they have to be very, very careful in terms of raising inferences to the jury about what could be seen and couldn't be seen, in light of what we know.

28 THE COURT:

Well, what we know is from a recreation, counsel. The testimony of the witnesses as to approaching that walkway under conditions of darkness on June the 12th and June the 13th are in the record and it is a fair inference.

29 MR. SCHECK:

To--

30 THE COURT:

The argument is concluded, counsel.

KEY QUOTE
31 MR. SCHECK:

I understand that. I'm just saying that it is perilously close.

32 THE COURT:

It is a fair inference that can be drawn from the record. Also, I'm going to admonish counsel on both sides not to make any head shakes, gestures grimaces. I have seen it on both sides. And if I see it again, I'm going to stop you in front of the jury and I'm going to upbraid you in front of the jury. Both sides. Both sides have done it.

33 (Brief pause.)
34 (Discussion held off the record between Defense counsel.)
35 (Discussion held off the record between the Deputy District Attorneys.)
36 (Brief pause.)

Temperature

tense

Key Quotes (4)

Barry Scheck
I think it is improper for the District Attorney to talk about I prosecute police officers so I know. The implication is either, A, don't worry, I will take care of mark Fuhrman, I will prosecute; B, if Detective Vannatter is lying, don't worry, I would know that. I think that is improper vouching.
Scheck articulates the defense's core objection to Marcia Clark's credibility-by-association argument, which touched directly on the Fuhrman and Vannatter threads.
Barry Scheck
He then makes an argument that Dr. Lee--that those--that infers to the jury or directly states that those shoeprints could have been left by those officers taking the blanket away when Agent Bodziak specifically testified, agreeing with Dr. Lee that they could not be, so that directly misstates the evidence.
Defense claims prosecution directly contradicted sworn testimony in closing argument — the strongest of Scheck's objections.
Lance A. Ito
If I see it again, I'm going to stop you in front of the jury and I'm going to upbraid you in front of the jury. Both sides. Both sides have done it.
Ito issues an unusually direct threat to both sides over courtroom conduct, signaling his frustration as the trial winds down.
Lance A. Ito
The argument is concluded, counsel.
Ito's terse dismissal of Scheck's ongoing lighting/darkness argument illustrates his tight control over proceedings at this late stage.

Evidence (3)

Informal
Still photographs of police officers including Riske, Lange, and Mazzola, with at least two bearing a KTLA Channel 5 logo
Objected to by Cochran before display; objection overruled
Informal
Video shown during closing argument with court-ordered redactions allegedly violated — portion referencing 'deception'
Referenced by Scheck as improperly shown in violation of court order
Informal
Shoeprint evidence at Bundy crime scene, specifically testimony of Agent Bodziak and Dr. Henry Lee
Scheck argues prosecution mischaracterized Bodziak's testimony about whether officer boot prints could account for the shoeprints

Notable Exchanges (3)

Barry ScheckLance A. Ito
Scheck raises concern about prosecution's argument regarding darkness at Bundy and the nighttime jury view the prosecution chose not to take; Ito cuts him off, ruling it a fair inference from the record.
tense
Johnnie CochranMarcia ClarkLance A. Ito
Cochran objects to still photographs of officers, citing the court's earlier ruling blocking defense still photos of Simpson with gloves. Clark responds that the court had actually overruled her own objection to defense stills, establishing the precedent. Ito sides with Clark.
strategic
Lance A. ItoBarry ScheckChristopher Darden
Scheck delivers a lengthy multi-part objection covering vouching, evidence misstatement, and the Kardashian bag handoff; Darden submits without argument; Ito overrules everything with a single sentence.
procedural

Credibility Attacks (2)

⚔ Marcia Clark
Misconduct allegation — improper vouching
Scheck argues Clark's closing references to her own courage, her experience prosecuting police officers, and her domestic violence expertise constituted improper personal vouching that prejudiced the jury.
⚔ Christopher Darden
Misconduct allegation — misstatement of evidence
Scheck alleges Darden misstated Bodziak's testimony about shoeprints, claiming Darden argued the prints could have come from officers removing a blanket when Bodziak had specifically testified they could not.

Objections

5 objections (0 sustained, 5 overruled)
Proceeding 7879 • 36 utterances
Criminal Trial
Department 103
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