📄 Direct examination of Josephine Guarin (part 2) — Thursday, July 20, 1995
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Direct examination of Josephine Guarin (part 2)

Witness: Josephine Guarin
Examiner: Johnnie Cochran
Called by: Defense • Date: Thursday, July 20, 1995 • Utterances: 270
Josephine Guarin, OJ Simpson's housekeeper, testified about his travel schedule, his relationship with Nicole Brown Simpson and Paula Barbieri in April-May 1994, and his obsessively neat clothing habits. The testimony culminated in her revealing she called Simpson from Knott's Berry Farm at approximately 8:00 PM on June 12, 1994 — the night of the murders — establishing a key timeline point. Cochran also used her to challenge crime scene evidence by eliciting that Simpson never left socks on the floor or items strewn about his room.
1 (The following proceedings were held in open court:)
2 MR. COCHRAN:

May I proceed, your Honor?

3 THE COURT:

Please.

4 MR. COCHRAN:

So where was Mr. Simpson during much of the month of April of 1994?

5 MS. GUARIN:

He is in Puerto Rico.

6 MR. COCHRAN:

And was he shooting a movie at that time?

7 MS. GUARIN:

Yes, he is.

8 MR. COCHRAN:

All right. So your contact with Mr. Simpson during the month of April while he was out of the country would be how? How would you talk to him during that time frame?

9 MS. GUARIN:

He will call me from time to time to check how I'm doing.

10 MR. COCHRAN:

All right. So you would talk on the telephone; is that correct?

11 MS. GUARIN:

Yes.

12 MR. COCHRAN:

All right. Now, what about now during the month of May of 1994, how was Mr. Simpson's schedule during the month of May of 1994, Miss Guarin?

13 MS. GUARIN:

He's in and out.

14 MR. COCHRAN:

All right. When you say in and out, what does that mean?

15 MS. GUARIN:

He's out of town or he's in town, he's doing a video or the frogman, the movie.

16 MR. COCHRAN:

All right. This same movie that he had been shooting in Puerto Rico, was some of that shot in the United States also?

17 MS. GUARIN:

Yes.

18 MR. COCHRAN:

And did the shooting continue in the month of May of 1994?

19 MS. GUARIN:

Uh-huh. Yes.

20 MR. COCHRAN:

You've got to answer out yes.

21 MS. GUARIN:

I'm sorry.

22 MR. COCHRAN:

And were you aware that he also was involved in some kind of a video, exercise video during the month of May of 1994?

23 MS. GUARIN:

Yes.

24 MR. COCHRAN:

All right. And during those periods of time, would there be nights when Mr. Simpson was not at home?

25 MS. GUARIN:

Yes.

26 MR. COCHRAN:

All right. Did he travel quite a bit then during that time frame we're talking about?

27 MS. GUARIN:

Yes.

28 MR. COCHRAN:

Now, do you recall a time during the month of May of 1994 that Mr. Simpson had occasion to go to palm springs?

29 MS. GUARIN:

He go to palm spring on memorial weekend.

30 MR. COCHRAN:

And do you recall with whom did he go to palm springs on memorial weekend, if you know?

31 MS. GUARIN:

With Miss Paula Barbieri.

32 MR. COCHRAN:

With Paula Barbieri?

33 MS. GUARIN:

Yes.

34 MR. COCHRAN:

All right. And prior to that, when you first started working for Mr. Simpson in April, first part of April of 1994, did you have occasion to meet Miss Nicole Brown Simpson?

35 MS. GUARIN:

Yes, I do.

36 MR. COCHRAN:

And was there a period of time that the two of them were together?

37 MS. GUARIN:

Yes.

38 MR. COCHRAN:

And did you see them together?

39 MS. GUARIN:

Yes.

40 MR. COCHRAN:

And where did you see them together during this time in April of 1994?

41 MS. GUARIN:

In Rockingham residence.

42 MR. COCHRAN:

All right. Would you see them at any other location?

43 MS. GUARIN:

No.

44 MR. COCHRAN:

Now, with regard to that, did you continue to see them together during part of the month of May of 1994?

45 MS. GUARIN:

Around first week of March--umm, first week of May.

46 MR. COCHRAN:

All right. And they continued to be together during that time frame?

47 MS. GUARIN:

Yes.

48 MR. COCHRAN:

Did there some come a time when they were no longer together during the month of May of 1994?

49 MR. DARDEN:

Objection. Speculation, your Honor.

50 THE COURT:

Overruled.

51 MR. COCHRAN:

You can answer that, please.

52 MS. GUARIN:

Can you repeat the question, please?

53 MR. COCHRAN:

Certainly. I'll be glad to. Did there come a time when you didn't see Mr. Simpson in the company of Mrs. Nicole Brown Simpson sometime during the month of May of 1994?

54 MS. GUARIN:

I didn't see her like after mother's day, something like that.

KEY QUOTE
55 MR. COCHRAN:

All right. Sometime after mother's day of 1994?

56 MS. GUARIN:

Yes.

57 MR. COCHRAN:

And was that--was it after that that you then saw Mr. Simpson with Miss Paula Barbieri?

58 MS. GUARIN:

Yes, I do.

59 MR. COCHRAN:

During the time that you saw Miss Nicole Brown Simpson with Mr. Simpson, did you see Paula Barbieri with him during that same time frame?

60 MS. GUARIN:

No.

61 MR. COCHRAN:

All right. You saw her after they were no longer seeing each other; is that right?

62 MS. GUARIN:

Yes.

63 MR. DARDEN:

Objection. That's leading.

64 THE COURT:

It is. I'll allow it to stand though. Move on.

65 MR. COCHRAN:

Thank you, your Honor.

66 MR. COCHRAN:

Now, we talked about April and May and Mr. Simpson's travel schedule. Were you aware of whether or not during the month of June, whether or not he left town during any portion of that time?

67 MS. GUARIN:

Can you repeat the question, please?

68 MR. COCHRAN:

Certainly. We've talked about Mr. Simpson traveling during the month of April, traveling during the month of May, and now I wanted to ask you at least during the first part of June, are you aware of whether or not Mr. Simpson had occasion to leave town during the month of June?

69 MS. GUARIN:

Yes.

70 MR. COCHRAN:

All right. Do you know where he went?

71 MS. GUARIN:

I know he went to New York, to Virginia and I don't know where--and I know that he's going to Chicago on that Sunday, I think that's June the 12th.

72 MR. COCHRAN:

All right. How did you know he was going to go to Chicago on Sunday, June 12th, ma'am?

73 MS. GUARIN:

Because I need to make in my schedule with his schedule because I need to be at the house whenever he's out of town at nighttime.

74 MR. COCHRAN:

All right. So that--would you adjust your schedule around Mr. Simpson's travel schedule?

75 MS. GUARIN:

Yes, I do.

76 MR. COCHRAN:

And was that one of the reasons why you knew generally when he was leaving town, when he would come back, when he was leaving? Is that right?

77 MS. GUARIN:

Yes, I do.

78 MR. COCHRAN:

And would that--would his travel schedule affect your duties around the Rockingham residence?

79 MS. GUARIN:

Sometimes.

80 MR. COCHRAN:

All right. And would you adjust your travel schedule to accommodate times when Mr. Simpson was going to be away out of town?

81 MS. GUARIN:

Yes. I need to make my schedule with his schedule so that there is no conflict on our schedule.

82 MR. COCHRAN:

So you try to work it out; is that correct?

83 MS. GUARIN:

Yes.

84 MR. COCHRAN:

All right. Now, with regard to Mr. Simpson, let's go back to the months of April and part of May of 1994, certainly in late April and early May. Are you aware of whether or not Mr. Simpson spent any nights away from home over at the home of Miss Nicole Brown Simpson?

85 MR. DARDEN:

Objection. Hearsay.

86 MR. COCHRAN:

I'm asking yes or no, yes or no to that question, your Honor. Foundation.

87 THE COURT:

All right. You can answer the question.

88 MS. GUARIN:

Yes, I do.

89 MR. COCHRAN:

And--

90 THE COURT:

Foundation.

91 MR. COCHRAN:

Foundational, yes, your Honor.

92 MR. COCHRAN:

And would you explain to the Court and to the jury what would happen, how you would--would you have contact with Mr. Simpson when he was away at night?

93 MS. GUARIN:

Yes, I do.

94 MR. COCHRAN:

And would you describe for us in your own words what would happen? How would you have contact with Mr. Simpson in the evening? We're talking about the month of May and early--the month of April and early May.

95 MS. GUARIN:

Okay. Umm, there is some phone calls that coming from Rockingham. And if there's important, I need to relay the information to Mr. Simpson. So I will call Miss Simpson house, Nicole, and give the message to her and I will--sometimes I'll talk to Mr. Simpson there.

96 MR. COCHRAN:

So would there be occasions when you would get messages for Mr. Simpson and you would then have to call him over at Nicole Brown Simpson's house?

97 MS. GUARIN:

Yes.

98 MR. COCHRAN:

And when you did that, the occasions that you talked to Mr. Simpson were late in the evening and late at night?

99 MS. GUARIN:

Yes.

100 MR. COCHRAN:

And in discussing with him where he would be that night, have you had occasion--you became aware that he was spending the night over at her house?

101 MR. DARDEN:

Objection. That calls for hearsay.

102 THE COURT:

Sustained.

103 MR. COCHRAN:

All right. Well, when you would call him, when you would call Mr. Simpson late at night, would you find him at some particular location?

104 MS. GUARIN:

I will call Miss Simpson's residence. If Mr. Simpson is not there, I will ask her where she is--where he is.

105 MR. COCHRAN:

Okay. And on occasion, when you would call there, would Mr. Simpson be there?

106 MS. GUARIN:

Yes, he is.

107 MR. COCHRAN:

And if he was there, you talked to him on the phone?

108 MS. GUARIN:

Yes.

109 MR. COCHRAN:

If he wasn't there, would you leave a message for him?

110 MR. DARDEN:

Objection. This is leading.

111 MR. COCHRAN:

Well, what would you do if--

112 THE COURT:

Overruled.

113 MR. COCHRAN:

Let me rephrase it, your Honor.

114 MR. COCHRAN:

You may answer that.

115 MS. GUARIN:

I'll leave the message to her. I will tell her to please call me at the Rockingham address.

116 MR. COCHRAN:

And on occasion thereafter, if you left a message for him, would you get calls back from Mr. Simpson?

117 MS. GUARIN:

Yes.

118 MR. COCHRAN:

He would then call back?

119 MS. GUARIN:

Yes, he will.

120 MR. COCHRAN:

And when he called back, did he say where he was sometimes?

121 MS. GUARIN:

Yes.

122 MR. COCHRAN:

And would he indicate on occasion that he was calling from Miss Nicole Brown--

123 MR. DARDEN:

Objection, your Honor.

124 THE COURT:

Sustained. Sustained.

125 MR. COCHRAN:

All right. Now, during the time that you've worked for Mr. Simpson, you've had occasion to go into his closet, have you not, and seen his clothes closet?

126 MS. GUARIN:

That's part of my job.

127 MR. COCHRAN:

And could you describe for us Mr. Simpson's habits regarding his clothes? Can you tell this Court and jury something about that, please?

128 MS. GUARIN:

He wants everything in order and he's neat in putting everything in place so that he know where to get it when he needs it.

KEY QUOTE
129 MR. COCHRAN:

All right. He's neat in putting everything in place?

130 MS. GUARIN:

Yes.

131 MR. COCHRAN:

And with regard to--let's assume--let's say that--are you aware that Mr. Simpson played golf?

132 MS. GUARIN:

Yes, I do.

133 MR. COCHRAN:

And when he would come back home from playing golf, would he sometimes have some arrangement with you about the clothes that he played in, played golf in?

134 MS. GUARIN:

Yes.

135 MR. COCHRAN:

Would you describe that for the Court and jury, please.

136 MS. GUARIN:

He wear--the clothes that he used to wear from playing golf, he will put it on the chair inside his closet. It means it need to be washed.

137 MR. COCHRAN:

All right. And how would he fix those clothes, the clothes that were presumably dirty clothes?

138 MS. GUARIN:

It would be arranged on the top of the chair nicely, sometimes folded nicely or hanging there nicely.

139 MR. COCHRAN:

And you knew that--when you saw these clothes either folded or hanging nicely, what did you take that to mean?

140 MS. GUARIN:

It means that I need to check if I need to wash them or check I need to wash them or put it back on the things, on the hanger on the closet.

141 MR. COCHRAN:

All right. Now, as you took care of Mr. Simpson and the house, did you ever see him leave clothes all strewn around the floor or around his bed or things of that nature?

142 MS. GUARIN:

Never. I never see him do that.

KEY QUOTE
143 MR. COCHRAN:

You mentioned that in his closet--with regard to his clothes--do you know what color coordinated means? Do you know what color coordinated means?

144 MS. GUARIN:

Yes.

145 MR. COCHRAN:

All right. Can you tell us and describe for us how those clothes were arranged in his closet?

146 MS. GUARIN:

He wants everything, all the whites will be together. All the white clothes will be together, the same color on the same--they're altogether at the same line, and all the gold pants are altogether and the denims are altogether.

147 MR. COCHRAN:

What about his shoes? Did he have any particular arrangement for his shoes in his closet?

148 MS. GUARIN:

All the shoes that he use, what he wear is on the floor under the--under his closet where his pants hang on, and on--also, there is a shelf on the top of the closet that he can put his shoes there.

149 MR. COCHRAN:

How would you describe his closet? How did it seem?

150 MS. GUARIN:

It's big.

151 MR. COCHRAN:

All right. In addition to being big, how did the clothes appear as they were in that closet?

152 MS. GUARIN:

Everything is arranged properly and he wants it the way it is. Folded nicely, clothes are on the same place that he wants to see it.

153 MR. COCHRAN:

All right. What about when he would take off clothes? And would he have a habit of taking off clothes and just leave them off the hangers while you were there?

154 MS. GUARIN:

When he--when he wear clothes and he doesn't like it, he will put it back on the hanger and put it in the same place where he got it.

155 MR. COCHRAN:

So he wouldn't leave clothes laying around; is that correct?

156 MS. GUARIN:

No.

157 MR. COCHRAN:

Now, during this time frame, you've described for the Court and jury that Mr. Simpson was traveling a lot, and I presume on occasion, he would leave the Rockingham residence; is that correct?

158 MS. GUARIN:

Yes.

159 MR. COCHRAN:

Have you ever been around when Mr. Simpson was leaving to go on a trip?

160 MS. GUARIN:

Yes.

161 MR. COCHRAN:

Can you describe for the ladies and gentlemen of the jury how Mr. Simpson would--what you observed as he would leave to go on trips?

162 MS. GUARIN:

He's always rushing.

KEY QUOTE
163 MR. COCHRAN:

And describe that for us. What would he be doing?

164 MS. GUARIN:

He's always--the limo is already there, the one who will pick him up. It still going to here for a long time because he just goes to start putting all her things together on the last minute.

165 MR. COCHRAN:

You've observed this yourself?

166 MS. GUARIN:

Yes, I do. Sometimes I will help him packing all the things that he needs.

167 MR. COCHRAN:

And waiting until the last minute, would that require him to do something? Was he rushing around?

168 MS. GUARIN:

He's rushing around taking--doing everything on the last minute.

169 MR. COCHRAN:

All right. Did you ever talk to him about that?

170 MS. GUARIN:

Yes. He's always late. I will tell him that, "Dale is here. He's already waiting outside." He says, "Tell him I will be there soon," but dale's going to wait for a long time before he will come down.

171 MR. COCHRAN:

All right. And when you say "Dale," are you referring to a limousine driver?

172 MS. GUARIN:

Yes.

173 MR. COCHRAN:

By the name of Dale St. John?

174 MS. GUARIN:

I know his name is dale. I don't know his last name.

175 MR. COCHRAN:

All right. So this particular habit of Mr. Simpson, will he always be running late?

176 MR. DARDEN:

Objection. Leading.

177 MS. GUARIN:

Yes.

178 MR. DARDEN:

Motion to strike. Never mind. Withdrawn.

179 THE COURT:

Thank you. Proceed.

180 MR. COCHRAN:

Did you withdraw it?

181 MR. DARDEN:

Yes.

182 MR. COCHRAN:

Did you answer?

183 MS. GUARIN:

Can you repeat the question, please?

184 MR. COCHRAN:

Certainly. Okay. Would Mr. Simpson always be running late on these trips?

185 MS. GUARIN:

Yes. Always.

186 MR. COCHRAN:

The limousine driver would have to wait for him?

187 MS. GUARIN:

Yes.

188 MR. COCHRAN:

Now, at times when Mr. Simpson, when he was running late, would his habit for picking up his clothes change at all or would it remain the same? Describe that for the jury.

189 MS. GUARIN:

Remain the same. He will--after he put everything in his suitcase, he will making sure that everything is in proper place, that he never leave anything out.

190 MR. COCHRAN:

May we have just a second, your Honor?

191 THE COURT:

Sure.

192 (Brief pause.)
193 MR. COCHRAN:

I would like to approach, your Honor. I'm not sure these photographs are in evidence, your Honor. So just in case, I'll show them to counsel. We've all seen them. Your Honor, I would like to mark--this may be one of the exhibits, but I'll--out of an abundance of caution, I'll mark this as a Defense exhibit if I might.

194 THE CLERK:

1256.

195 THE COURT:

1256.

196 MR. COCHRAN:

1256?

197 MR. COCHRAN:

I've show it to counsel. I'll put 1256 on the back. I would like to approach the witness, your Honor.

198 THE COURT:

You may.

199 MR. COCHRAN:

Counsel has now seen this.

200 MR. COCHRAN:

I want to show you what has now been marked as exhibit 1256, Miss Guarin. Can you take a look at that photograph, please? And I'll ask you some questions after you've seen it.

201 THE COURT:

It appears to be identical to what was it, 167?

202 MR. COCHRAN:

It may be, your Honor.

203 MR. COCHRAN:

You've now looked at this?

204 MS. GUARIN:

Yes.

205 MR. COCHRAN:

Can I proceed, your Honor?

206 THE COURT:

You may.

207 MR. COCHRAN:

With regard to this particular photograph, do you recognize the room depicted in this photograph?

208 MS. GUARIN:

Yes, it is.

209 MR. COCHRAN:

And what room--whose room is this?

210 MS. GUARIN:

That's Mr. Simpson room.

211 MR. COCHRAN:

All right. And that's the room that you worked in during this time frame we've been talking about?

212 MS. GUARIN:

Yes.

213 MR. COCHRAN:

If I were to put this on the elmo--I'm going to ask you some questions about it.

214 (Brief pause.)
215 MR. COCHRAN:

Now, you can look down at the monitor there. With regard to that photograph that's now on the elmo, at any time during the time you worked for Mr. Simpson, have you ever seen him leave any socks on the rug or on that carpet in his room at any time, out like that?

216 MS. GUARIN:

No.

217 MR. COCHRAN:

There appear to be some kind of straps on his bed or across the bed. At any time, have you ever at any time ever seen Mr. Simpson leave and leave any straps or anything like that on his bed in that fashion?

218 MS. GUARIN:

No.

219 MR. COCHRAN:

Now, during the time that you worked for Mr. Simpson as his housekeeper, did he have and use a cellular telephone on occasion?

220 MS. GUARIN:

Yes. Yes.

221 MR. COCHRAN:

All right. And other than the cellular telephone, was there a cordless telephone at all in that house at all?

222 MS. GUARIN:

No.

223 MR. COCHRAN:

Have you on occasion seen Mr. Simpson use this cellular telephone?

224 MS. GUARIN:

Yes.

225 MR. COCHRAN:

And will you describe for the Court and jury where and what places would you see him use or talk on the cellular telephone?

226 MS. GUARIN:

Around the pool hall--pool area and around the front yard.

227 MR. COCHRAN:

All right. And did you ever see him use the cellular phone inside the house?

228 MS. GUARIN:

No.

229 MR. COCHRAN:

You had telephones inside the house?

230 MS. GUARIN:

Yes.

231 MR. COCHRAN:

Now, this cellular phone that Mr. Simpson would use around the pool area or in the front part of the mouse, was that cellular phone capable of being put in either one of his cars?

232 MS. GUARIN:

Yes.

233 MR. COCHRAN:

And have you had occasion to see that same cellular phone inside of his Bronco?

234 MS. GUARIN:

Yes.

235 MR. COCHRAN:

And you could then remove it from the Bronco?

236 MS. GUARIN:

He will move it to the Bentley.

237 MR. COCHRAN:

Now, you've seen the Bronco before; have you not?

238 MS. GUARIN:

Yes, I do. Uh-huh. Yes.

239 MR. COCHRAN:

Did you ever drive the Bronco yourself?

240 MS. GUARIN:

Yes.

241 MR. COCHRAN:

You've driven it yourself on occasion?

242 MS. GUARIN:

Yes.

243 MR. COCHRAN:

Now, with regard to the Bronco, can you describe for the Court and jury on what streets, if any, the Bronco would normally be parked?

244 MS. GUARIN:

It will park on Ashford. Sometimes in Rockingham.

245 MR. COCHRAN:

All right. These are things you observed yourself; is that correct?

246 MS. GUARIN:

Yes, I--

247 MR. COCHRAN:

Now, did you have occasion to speak with Mr. OJ Simpson on the evening hours of June 12th of 1994?

248 MS. GUARIN:

Yes, I do.

249 MR. COCHRAN:

And would you tell the ladies and gentlemen of the jury what time did you have occasion to speak with Mr. Simpson on that same evening?

250 MS. GUARIN:

I call him from Knotts Berry Farm around 8:00 o'clock that Sunday night.

KEY QUOTE
251 MR. COCHRAN:

All right. You were at Knotts Berry Farm?

252 MS. GUARIN:

Yes, I do.

253 MR. COCHRAN:

And who were you at Knotts Berry Farm with?

254 MS. GUARIN:

With my family.

255 MR. COCHRAN:

And you were having a nice time I presume?

256 MS. GUARIN:

Yes.

257 MR. COCHRAN:

All right. And in that connection, you called Mr. Simpson?

258 MS. GUARIN:

Yes, I do.

259 MR. COCHRAN:

At the time you called Mr. Simpson, did you know whether or not he would be leaving town that night?

260 MS. GUARIN:

I know he is leaving town that night.

261 MR. COCHRAN:

There had some prearrangement regarding his schedule?

262 MS. GUARIN:

Yes.

263 MR. COCHRAN:

All right. Did you make some request of Mr. Simpson when you called at about 8:00 o'clock on June 12th, 1994? You can answer that yes or no.

264 MS. GUARIN:

Yes, I do.

265 MR. COCHRAN:

You called him; is that correct?

266 MS. GUARIN:

Yes, I do.

267 MR. COCHRAN:

All right. And what did you ask Mr.--

268 MR. COCHRAN:

Your Honor, may we approach, approach on this limited portion?

269 THE COURT:

Yes.

270 MR. COCHRAN:

Thank you.

Temperature

procedural

Key Quotes (5)

Josephine Guarin
I call him from Knotts Berry Farm around 8:00 o'clock that Sunday night.
Places OJ Simpson reachable by phone at approximately 8 PM on June 12, 1994 — the night of the murders. Crucial timeline testimony.
Josephine Guarin
Never. I never see him do that.
Response to whether Simpson ever left clothes strewn on the floor — directly implies the bloody socks found on his bedroom floor were planted or anomalous.
Josephine Guarin
He's always rushing. He's always late. I will tell him that, 'Dale is here. He's already waiting outside.' He says, 'Tell him I will be there soon,' but dale's going to wait for a long time before he will come down.
Establishes Simpson's habitual last-minute chaotic behavior when departing for trips, relevant to the rushed departure to Chicago the night of June 12.
Josephine Guarin
I didn't see her like after mother's day, something like that.
Marks the end of the Simpson-Nicole reconciliation period, transitioning to the Paula Barbieri relationship shortly before the murders.
Josephine Guarin
He wants everything in order and he's neat in putting everything in place so that he know where to get it when he needs it.
Foundation for the defense argument that the socks and other items found in his room were inconsistent with his known behavior and therefore planted.

Evidence (4)

Defense 1256
Photograph of OJ Simpson's bedroom/closet at Rockingham residence, possibly identical to People's 167
Introduced and displayed on ELMO; used to ask witness about socks on floor and straps on bed
Informal
Socks visible on carpet in bedroom photograph
Witness testified she had never seen Simpson leave socks on the floor — implicit challenge to planted-evidence theory
Informal
Straps visible across bed in bedroom photograph
Witness testified she had never seen anything like that left on his bed
Informal
OJ Simpson's cellular telephone and Bronco
Discussed to establish phone usage patterns and Bronco's normal parking locations (Ashford or Rockingham)

Notable Exchanges (3)

Johnnie CochranJosephine Guarin
Cochran showed Guarin the crime scene photo of Simpson's bedroom and elicited that she had never seen socks on the floor or straps on the bed in that fashion — a strategic attack on the physical evidence without directly calling it planted.
strategic
Johnnie CochranJosephine Guarin
Guarin described calling Simpson from Knott's Berry Farm at approximately 8 PM on June 12, 1994, confirming she knew he was leaving for Chicago that night. The examination ended at a sidebar before the content of the call was revealed.
strategic
Johnnie CochranChristopher Darden
Darden objected on hearsay grounds when Cochran tried to establish that Simpson was spending nights at Nicole's house. The judge sustained, forcing Cochran to work around it by having Guarin describe calling Nicole's number and finding Simpson there.
procedural

Light Moments (2)

Christopher Darden
Darden objected to a leading question, then moved to strike, then immediately withdrew the motion — all within a few seconds. Ito dryly responded 'Thank you. Proceed.'
Josephine Guarin
Guarin described Simpson's closet simply as 'It's big' when asked to characterize it, before Cochran followed up to get the organized-clothes description.

Witness Demeanor

Non-native English speaker; frequently asked for questions to be repeated
Cooperative and straightforward with Cochran's questions
No notable emotional reactions recorded

Objections

7 objections (2 sustained, 4 overruled)
Proceeding 6990 • 270 utterances • Defense witness
Criminal Trial
Department 103
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