THANK YOU, COUNSEL. ALL RIGHT. MR. UELMEN, WHAT IS YOUR TIME ESTIMATE TO YOUR RESPONSE? MR. UELMEN: ABOUT AN HOUR, YOUR HONOR.
ALL RIGHT. MR. DARDEN, THEN I'M -- I DON'T THINK WE WILL GET TO THE FUHRMAN MOTION TODAY IS MY GUESS.
YES, ALONG WITH DEPUTY D.A. LEWIS, YOUR HONOR. BEFORE I GO, HOWEVER, I WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE WITH THE COURT -- WITH THE COURT AND DEFENSE COUNSEL TWO ITEMS. THE FIRST IS A CHAPTER FROM A BOOK CALLED TWO NATIONS, BLACK AND WHITE, SEPARATE, HOSTILE, UNEQUAL. IT IS BY ANDREW HACKER AND IT WAS PUBLISHED IN 1992. I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE WITH THE COURT AND COUNSEL A STUDY FROM THE AMERICAN SOCIOLOGICAL REVIEW, VOLUME 56, IT IS PUBLISHED IN 1991. IT IS ENTITLED THE CONTINUING SIGNIFICANCE OF RACE, ANTI-BLACK DISCRIMINATION IN PUBLIC PLACES. IT IS GOING TO BE OUR POSITION THAT THE COURT SHOULD HAVE SOME FEELING OF WHAT IT MEANS OR WILL MEAN FOR BLACK JURORS TO HEAR IN THIS CASE THAT DETECTIVE FUHRMAN MAY HAVE USED THE "N" WORD SOME FOURTEEN OR FIFTEEN YEARS AGO, AND WE WILL BE ARGUING THAT EVIDENCE SHOULDN'T COME IN, THAT IT WILL POSE SUBSTANTIAL PREJUDICE TO THE PROSECUTION'S CASE IN THE EVENT THAT THE COURT ALLOWS THOSE SLURS IN THE EVIDENCE, AND SO I LEAVE THIS WITH MR. COCHRAN.
I KNOW WHAT IT IS AND I UNDERSTAND THAT WORD VERY CLEARLY AND I'M NOT GOING TO ARGUE THE ISSUE NOW, BUT I DON'T THINK THE COURT NEEDS DR. HACKER'S BOOK IN ORDER TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS TO HAVE A RACIAL INSULT VISITED UPON ONE. AND THE FACT THAT WE HAVE A JURY THAT IS A DIVERSE JURY I THINK DOES VIOLENCE TO THE CONCEPT OF A DIVERSE JURY AND IT BELITTLES THEIR INTELLIGENCE TO UNDERSTAND IF THEY CAN'T UNDERSTAND --
KEY QUOTEMR. COCHRAN, WE ARE NOT HEAR TO ARGUE THE MOTION AT THIS POINT. I'M ASKING FOR TIME ESTIMATES.
I UNDERSTAND. I'M ONLY RESPONDING TO COUNSEL. I THOUGHT WE WERE HEAR TO LET HIM GO HOME.
I'M PLEASED TO HEAR THAT MR. COCHRAN KNOWS WHAT THE TERM MEANS AND HAS HEARD IT BEFORE SO WE WON'T NEED EXPERT TESTIMONY ON THIS ISSUE.
KEY QUOTEI'M FAMILIAR WITH THE HACKER BOOK. THANK YOU, COUNSEL. MR. DARDEN, GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR FLOOD PROBLEMS. COUNSEL, WHY DON'T WE TAKE A BRIEF RECESS AND THEN WE WILL HEAR THE RESPONSE.
IT IS GOING TO BE OUR POSITION THAT THE COURT SHOULD HAVE SOME FEELING OF WHAT IT MEANS OR WILL MEAN FOR BLACK JURORS TO HEAR IN THIS CASE THAT DETECTIVE FUHRMAN MAY HAVE USED THE "N" WORD SOME FOURTEEN OR FIFTEEN YEARS AGO
I KNOW WHAT IT IS AND I UNDERSTAND THAT WORD VERY CLEARLY AND I'M NOT GOING TO ARGUE THE ISSUE NOW, BUT I DON'T THINK THE COURT NEEDS DR. HACKER'S BOOK IN ORDER TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS TO HAVE A RACIAL INSULT VISITED UPON ONE.
I'M PLEASED TO HEAR THAT MR. COCHRAN KNOWS WHAT THE TERM MEANS AND HAS HEARD IT BEFORE SO WE WON'T NEED EXPERT TESTIMONY ON THIS ISSUE.
MR. DARDEN, GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR FLOOD PROBLEMS.