📄 Sidebar: Sconce case relevance — Monday, August 14, 1995
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Sidebar: Sconce case relevance

Date: Monday, August 14, 1995 • Utterances: 10
Marcia Clark requested permission to elicit testimony about the dismissal of a prior capital murder case (Sconce) where Dr. Rieders was the expert witness, arguing it was critical impeachment because Rieders failed to offer a scientifically valid explanation that could have saved the prosecution. Defense attorney Blasier objected that a DA's dismissal decision reflects many factors beyond this witness's conduct. Judge Ito sustained the objection, ruling the connection between Rieders' conduct and the dismissal was highly speculative.
1 (The following proceedings were held at the bench:)
2 THE COURT:

All right. We are over at the side bar. Miss Clark.

3 MS. CLARK:

Yes, your Honor. I need to address the Court. I'm about to wrap up the Sconce inquiry and go into our case and we will be done quickly. However, a couple of things came to light after we began the testimony that I think makes the dismissal of the case very relevant and important impeachment of this witness. Two things. Now three actually. He has admitted that he did not offer the scientifically acceptable basis for reconciling the differences that would have permitted the case to continue. As a result of his inability or failure to do so back in 1991, the case was dismissed. He has attacked Denoce saying that that conversation never occurred and the representations made in this memo never occurred. If that were true, if what he is saying were true, that he knew back then that it was the difference in the two tissues and then the case would never have been dismissed. His failure to communicate that to the Prosecutors indicates a lack of his own belief in the validity of that, but it is important to show that he could have prevented the dismissal of capital murder charges had he offered the scientifically valid reason that he knew existed at the time. Furthermore, he did in fact offer that explanation to Dr. Lovell in January of `95, two months after he was put on the Defense witness list, and again last week contacted Dr. Henion to try to pressure him into agreeing that he got the same--he got the exhumation tissues which we will prove is not true, is not true. He tested splits for Dr. Rieders. Dr. Henion tested splits of Dr. Rieder's tissues, we will prove that, but the fact of the dismissal, it goes to the heart of the impeachment of this witness' failure to come forward with a reasonable explanation that could have permitted the case to continue. So I'm asking leave the Court now, in light of this new information, to allow me in two or three questions, the fact that the case was dismissed for failure to give valid scientifically acceptable reason.

4 MR. BLASIER:

This is a legal conclusion from the D.A.'s office that has many things to prove besides just this. It would be completely improper to put in a conclusion from a District Attorney that they dismissed a case when it could relate to all sorts of different things in terms of motive, opportunity, intent. This was one small part of that case. It is completely irrelevant as to what the D.A. decided to do.

5 MS. CLARK:

Can I show the Court the copy of the letter to Dr. Lovell that I would like to show this witness, because it shows that he knew the case was going to be dismissed. And it is important because the D.A. was calling him to say, hey, look, we are going to have a dismissal unless you can reconcile the difference.

6 THE COURT:

Here is the problem, though: What we need to establish here is that Dr. Rieders did testing in this case and got different results than other scientists who you will probably call and say that Dr. Rieders' results were mistaken.

7 MS. CLARK:

Uh-huh.

8 THE COURT:

That is the issue. Whether or not something is--cases are dismissed or continue to be prosecuted--if you want to bring Mike Bradbury into that, I think he is competent to testify to those things, but this witness is not competent to testify to that.

KEY QUOTE
9 MS. CLARK:

It is impeaching his credibility and failure to give the valid scientific reason why which he apparently had which could have prevented the dismissal and says he knew about it at the time but failed to offer it to the D.A.

10 THE COURT:

I find that highly speculative and I will sustain the objection.

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Temperature

tense

Key Quotes (4)

Marcia Clark
He has admitted that he did not offer the scientifically acceptable basis for reconciling the differences that would have permitted the case to continue. As a result of his inability or failure to do so back in 1991, the case was dismissed.
Clark's core impeachment theory — that Rieders withheld or failed to articulate a valid scientific explanation, causing a capital murder case to collapse.
Robert Blasier
It would be completely improper to put in a conclusion from a District Attorney that they dismissed a case when it could relate to all sorts of different things in terms of motive, opportunity, intent.
Blasier correctly identifies that a dismissal decision is multi-factorial and attributing it solely to this witness's testimony is legally inappropriate.
Lance A. Ito
Whether or not something is--cases are dismissed or continue to be prosecuted--if you want to bring Mike Bradbury into that, I think he is competent to testify to those things, but this witness is not competent to testify to that.
Ito signals the proper evidentiary pathway — the DA who made the dismissal decision, not the expert witness, would need to testify.
Lance A. Ito
I find that highly speculative and I will sustain the objection.
Clean ruling ending the sidebar; Clark's impeachment theory rejected as too attenuated.

Evidence (2)

Informal
Letter to Dr. Lovell indicating the Sconce case would be dismissed unless Rieders could reconcile the tissue difference
Clark sought to show to witness during examination; not admitted
Informal
Memo referencing a conversation with Denoce that Rieders denied occurred
discussed as basis for impeachment

Notable Exchanges (2)

Marcia ClarkLance A. Ito
Clark made an extended three-part argument connecting Rieders' 1991 failure to explain tissue discrepancies, his January 1995 explanation to Dr. Lovell (two months after joining the defense witness list), and alleged pressure on Dr. Henion. Ito systematically narrowed the issue to whether Rieders got different results than other scientists, declining to let the case dismissal narrative in.
strategic
Marcia ClarkRobert Blasier
Blasier's objection was brief but precise; Clark attempted to respond by offering to show the Lovell letter to the Court, pivoting from the dismissal argument to a credibility-through-inaction argument.
procedural

Credibility Attacks (2)

⚔ Dr. Rieders
prior conduct — failure to provide valid scientific explanation
Clark argued that Rieders possessed a scientifically valid explanation for tissue discrepancies in the Sconce case as early as 1991 but withheld it from prosecutors, causing dismissal of capital murder charges, and only offered that explanation in January 1995 after being added to the defense witness list — suggesting his opinions are advocacy-driven rather than scientifically objective.
⚔ Dr. Rieders
witness tampering / pressure on collateral witness
Clark alleged Rieders contacted Dr. Henion shortly before trial to pressure him into agreeing that Henion had tested the same exhumation tissues as Rieders, which Clark indicated she could disprove.

Objections

1 objections (1 sustained, 0 overruled)
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