📄 Sidebar: phenolphthalein procedures — Monday, April 17, 1995
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Sidebar: phenolphthalein procedures

Date: Monday, April 17, 1995 • Utterances: 10
Goldberg sought permission to ask a witness whether he performed phenolphthalein testing on the sink, shower, and wire (item 11) without disclosing the results, arguing it was relevant absent a defense stipulation. Scheck objected that even asking the question would imply positive results, undermining the court's prior limiting instruction on presumptive tests. Ito sustained the objection, then noted two jurors were nodding off, prompting a brief discussion about letting the jury stretch.
1 (The following proceedings were held at the bench:)
2 MR. GOLDBERG:

Your Honor, the Court's proposing a limiting instruction, and I was wondering if the Court would at least allow me to ask whether he did phenolphtalein testing without what the results are, just did he do a test, did he write an analyzed evidence report.

3 THE COURT:

We're talking about the sink again?

4 MR. GOLDBERG:

The sink, the shower and the wire, item number 11.

5 MR. SCHECK:

I would object because the implication is that those all came back positive, which is exactly the danger that the Court's ruling is supposed to prevent in terms of the fact that these are nothing but presumptive tests, that there are other things that can bring in false positives, negatives. Depends on how scientifically sound the presumptive tests are. So the only reason to ask this question is to bring out the inference that it would cause.

6 MR. GOLDBERG:

Well, if counsel stipulates this witness did in fact test the Bronco in July and got a positive phenolphtalein test, then I don't need to ask that question. That's the only reason that I'm presenting it. And if he's either proposing to concede or stipulate to that fact, we absolutely don't need it. It's irrelevant. But without that stipulation, I think that that is a relevant piece of evidence.

KEY QUOTE
7 THE COURT:

The Court will abide by its prior ruling and sustain the objection. Also, keep an eye on the jury from time to time. I've caught two of them nodding today. So--

8 MS. CLARK:

How about if we take a stretch? Can we let the jury stand up and take a stretch for a minute?

9 THE COURT:

Next time we have a sidebar, I'll suggest that. In fact, why don't we stay up here a few more minutes, and I'll suggest they stand and stretch a little bit.

10 (The following proceedings were held in open Court:)

Temperature

procedural

Key Quotes (3)

Barry Scheck
The only reason to ask this question is to bring out the inference that it would cause.
Scheck identifies the prosecutorial strategy: framing a question about whether a test was done implies it came back positive, effectively backdooring the excluded results.
Hank Goldberg
If counsel stipulates this witness did in fact test the Bronco in July and got a positive phenolphtalein test, then I don't need to ask that question.
Goldberg reveals his hand — he wants the positive test result in evidence one way or another, either through testimony or a defense stipulation.
Lance A. Ito
Also, keep an eye on the jury from time to time. I've caught two of them nodding today.
A candid, practical aside from the judge revealing jury fatigue mid-trial — and a rare moment of levity at the bench.

Evidence (2)

Informal
Phenolphthalein testing on sink, shower, and wire (item 11) — presumptive blood testing
discussed, excluded from testimony per prior court ruling
Informal
Bronco interior — site of July phenolphthalein testing with alleged positive result
referenced as subject of potential stipulation

Notable Exchanges (2)

Hank GoldbergBarry Scheck
Goldberg tries to ask only whether the test was performed (not its results); Scheck argues that even framing the question implies a positive result, which is exactly what the court's limiting instruction was meant to prevent.
strategic
Lance A. ItoMarcia Clark
Ito notes two jurors nodding off; Clark suggests a jury stretch break; Ito agrees to use the extended sidebar as cover for the jury to stand.
light

Light Moments (1)

Lance A. Ito
Ito reveals he's been watching the jury and caught two of them falling asleep, leading to an impromptu stretch break disguised as an extended sidebar.

Objections

1 objections (1 sustained, 0 overruled)
Proceeding 5731 • 10 utterances
Criminal Trial
Department 103
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