You don't speculate about future losses and you don't speculate about future income 25 years in the future, do you, sir?
One loan that Mr. Simpson took out on the pension plans was in 1977 before ERISA was even on the books that precluded it; isn't that true, sir?
Actually, that loan was repaid in 1996, finally. And as a result of the fact that there was an outstanding loan in '96, he could not borrow again for another year, and the maximum amount that he would be able -- allowed to borrow one year later without tax liability would be $50,000.
KEY QUOTEActually, that loan was repaid in 1996, finally. And as a result of the fact that there was an outstanding loan in '96, he could not borrow again for another year, and the maximum amount that he would be able -- allowed to borrow one year later without tax liability would be $50,000.