Okay. Virtually every day, numerous times a day, trying to talk about Nicole and getting your wife back, true?

Often we didn't talk about Nicole but most of the time it was about Nicole, and Judy was -- she was like a shrink for me. I called her all the time. Okay.

And you also would call Nicole's house sitter, a woman named Giaconda Redfern, and talk to her about Nicole, right?

I don't know who she is.

You would call Nicole's house sitter to find out where Nicole was, right?

If I was out of town and I was calling like, for Nicole and the kids and they weren't around, I'd ask where they were.

I don't know Giaconda Redfern.

You were checking up on her pretty frequently?

No, I think --

Yes or no?

No.

Okay. Now, there came a time when in April of 1992, you went out to a restaurant called Trieste, right?

Yes.

And you saw Nicole there with a man named Keith, right?

I believe Keith was there. She was with about ten people.

This is the first time you had ever seen Nicole, in a restaurant, in the company of another man, not you, right?

No.

And it was obvious to you that Nicole was with this person and not there with you, right?

No, I had met Keith. And she went out with a bunch of her friends, and I assumed he was just a friend of hers like all the other people that were there.

You were not Nicole's date that night?

No.

And you were not invited to be there with Nicole and the party, right?

Or them with me and my party, no.

Now, after you left the restaurant that night, about 11 o'clock or so you went over to Nicole's condominium, uninvited and unannounced, true?

Yes.

And as you walked up the path to the house, you looked through the window, and you saw Nicole engaged in a sexual act with this man, Keith, right?

As I approached her front door, the window was there, and I saw her head, and I looked and saw that she was engaged with somebody.

And you watched long enough to see what was going on, right?

And that left an indelible impression in your mind, true, sir?

I don't know what an indelible impression is.

I was pretty stunned.

Lasting impression, right?

I was pretty stunned. I mean it's not a picture that I carry around with me.

Something that was hard for you to forget, right, is that a fair statement?

I sometimes still remember, yes.

Now, after that incident, you met this Paula, and the two of you, you and Paula that is, began a monogamous relationship of your own with her, right?

Yes.

And by this time, you're pretty much over trying to talk Nicole into the relationship, right?

Yes.

And your divorce was final in October of 1992, true?

That's correct.

Okay. Now, there came a time I guess several months later, into early 1993, when Nicole started pursuing you again, true?

Yes.

Or were you pursuing her?

No, she was incessively (sic) pursuing me.

Excuse me?

Incessively.

Incessantly?

Yes.

She'd show up where I -- wherever I was. She showed up at the golf course where I was, she followed me to Mexico, she made me cookies and occasionally -- she called my home and my office incessantly.

Kind of what you were doing to her between January and May of 1992, true?

I think that's false. I don't think I showed up anyplace other than her home where she was.

Okay.

Yeah.

Now, are you sure you were not pursuing her this time?

No. I think everyone, including our family, knows it was her pursuing me.

You sure about that?

I think everybody knows that.

I'm just asking if you're sure?

I'm a thousand percent sure.

How many percent?

A thousand percent sure.

Thank you. That answers my question.

Now, Nicole was sending you letters and tapes and cookies and trying to get you back, right?

Yes.

Can I see the letter, Steve.

(BY MR. PETROCELLI) She wrote you a letter --

1161. Let me see it first. Just hand it to me, if you would please.

(BY MR. PETROCELLI) Now, by this time, we're into what, Mr. Simpson, March, April, 1993, thereabouts?

Yes.

Divorce is final. You're in your life with Paula, right?

Yes.

And there isn't any romantic involvement at all with Nicole, right?

I hadn't even spoken to Nicole since two days after Christmas. I think I saw her for a minute on the 1st of February, and until she showed up at my house, I don't think I even had spoken a word to her other than maybe if I called and asked to speak to the kids.

And the basic interaction, if any, you had, had to do only with the children, right?

Yes. I -- as a matter of fact, I know other than that one day I didn't even see Nicole for about two and a half, three months, and then I wasn't returning her calls when she would call to my office and stuff.

And then the pursuing started, right?

I think it's a little confusing here.

She was sending things over and calls and I wasn't responding.

Why were you not responding?

Because I didn't want to deal with any of her problems. I told her if it was about the kids, just let me know. My housekeeper and my secretary told her. And I think I sent her a note or something that Nicole, I don't want to get into any of your problems. Because I had to deal with a lot of her problems and -- after we had -- after May of '92, and I tried to help her as best I can, but I was in my own relationship and I didn't want to deal with any of hers and I -- I just, you know, I just didn't want to deal with anything outside of the children.

Okay. And at some point you got a letter from her, right?

Well, she showed up at my house one day, yes.

Was it 1161?

Yes.

(BY MR. PETROCELLI) The dear O.J. letter. You see that?

Yes.

And at the end -- well, let me ask you this: First of all, this is a letter from Nicole to you, right?

Yes.

And this is the letter that you received sometime in the spring of 1993?

It appears to be, yes.

And this is Nicole's handwriting, right?

It appears to be.

You don't have any doubt about that, right?

It appears to be, yes.

You have any doubt?

No.

Okay. At the end it says, I love you forever and always, Me, right?

Yes.

And basically what she was saying to you is O.J., I want to come home, right?

Well, she told -- the day she gave me the letter -- well, basically that's what the letter says, yes.

I want to come home, right?

I don't know -- yes.

And as a result of these beseechings by Nicole, you decided to get back with her, right?

No.

At some point you told Paula Barbieri that you were going to end your relationship with her and you were going to get back with Nicole, right?

Roughly -- probably two months, possibly a little more after she showed up with this letter, yes.

Around Mothers Day, 1993, right?

That's correct.

Then you left Paula for Nicole, right?

Yes.

And you broke Paula's heart?

Yes.

Okay. And you and Nicole began what we -- what you called the reconciliation period, right?

I gave her a year. I gave it a year.

You gave her a year?

Yes.

Is that what you are saying?

Yes, that's part of.

You gave her a year to do what, sir?

I gave her -- I said I would give it a year. She had a concern at one point that if we argued, that I would just stop, and I said okay, I'll give it a year.

I told her a few other things about one particular friend of hers I wouldn't socialize with and I don't -- and one or two other little things.

Before you said you'd give her a year. Was that a slip?

No, that -- that's how I felt, I'll give it a year, I'll work as hard as I can for a year, and if it works in a year we'll remarry, if it didn't work in a year, it wouldn't work.

So from about March -- excuse me, May of 1993, for the next year --

Virtually to the day.

We'll talk about to the day.

Yeah.

Let's just say to the year.

Yes.

Roughly, okay?

Yes.

You and Nicole had a monogamous relationship, right?

I don't know how monogamous it was, no.

Was it monogamous on your part?

When we were dating it was monogamous. You have to understand, I lived in New York, she lived here. I -- she never asked me what I was doing, I never asked her what she was doing.

The ground rules were you would date each other exclusively, not move in, and try to see if you could put your marriage back together, and if it worked within a year, then she would move back to Rockingham and the two of you would get remarried and be a family again, is that a fair description of the arrangement?

Objection, compound.

Overruled.

I think the ground rules were we'd work together on the relationship.

(BY MR. PETROCELLI) Sir, could you answer my question, please?

You asked a question -- you asked a lot of things that were in that question, sir.

Was that a fair --

Basically, basically, but I -- she went out when she wasn't with me and I went out when I wasn't with her, so...

Excuse me?

Yes.

Was that a fair description of the arrangements you had?

I think it was close.

Okay. Are you saying now that you did not have an arrangement with her where you would be exclusive to her. You would be monogamous to her during the period that you and she were attempting to reconcile?

I think we wanted to be. But she wasn't and I wasn't, so --

But you had an agreement with her that you would be, true?

I don't think we talked about it. I don't think it was a specific conversation we had. I think when we said we'd work together, it may have been an implied thing there that we would be monogamous with one another, but I think it was pretty -- I think it was certainly implied when we -- when we sat and talked about it.

So the answer to my question is you did not have a verbal agreement with Nicole that the two of you would be exclusive -- exclusive; is that correct?

I think it was implied, yes.

Did you tell her -- did she tell you we will not date other people in the time that we are attempting to reconcile?

I don't recall --

Yes or no?

-- recall having that specific conversation, having -- saying that. I think it was certainly implied when we got back together.

You had no verbal conversation that you and she would do such a thing, correct?

I believe it was implied when we said we're going to work to get back together again.

Are you saying it was said or not said? Can you just answer the question?

I'm saying that I believe it was implied when we said we were going to work with one another to get back together.

Okay.

I know neither one of us was monogamous during this period of time.

I'm not asking you that. I'm asking you what the deal was, okay.

Now, you said the closest that you came and she came to expressing that deal is that you would work together, right?

Yes.

Okay. And nothing more was said on the subject of dating other people, right?

I think it was implied that we wouldn't date other people.

Nothing else was said, right?

I believe it was implied. I don't remember the specific conversation but I believe it was certainly implied by both of us that we wouldn't date other people.

Now, that reconciliation period didn't go too well, did it?

I would say it went -- with the exception of two or three months, mainly because I kind of felt I wanted out, I would say it went pretty good. It didn't work in the end. I thought it went pretty good.

The last six months of the year were not very good, were they?

I would say January, February, March were great, and from March on, they weren't.

Okay. And you continued to have arguments with Nicole as you had throughout the course of your relationship, right?

Yes, we had a few arguments, yes.

And a couple of things happened that year that upset you, right?

Yes.

And one thing that happened in particular was that there was an article that came out in the National Enquirer in the fall of 1993 in which it was reported that you -- that you had begged Nicole to get back into the relationship, right?

Yes.

And that really upset you?

Yes, it certainly did.

And it upset you because it was false, right?

Exactly. That's why it upset me.

She begged, you did not beg her?

Exactly right.

You got upset with her because you thought Nicole was responsible for telling the reporters or her circle of friends told the reporters this falsehood, right?

That one or two of her friends had, yes, because there were some things in there that I thought were a little on the money and I felt that the only reason the National Enquirer would have known it was if one of her friends had gone to it with it, and it really, really upset me.

It upset you because you didn't want to want America to think that you were begging another woman, correct?

I didn't want an inaccurate thing to be written in the paper, and I didn't think it was right that one of her friends would go to a tabloid and make any characterizations about anything that was going on between Nicole and I.

You were a public figure at that time, right?

Yes.

And you were very concerned about what the public thinks of you, true?

In this instance I would say no. In this instance I was upset that someone who purported to be a friend of hers would take --

Could you please answer my question yes or no.

He's trying to answer the question.

(BY MR. PETROCELLI) No, you're not answering.

Overruled. He's answered.

(BY MR. PETROCELLI) Please answer the question.

Would you reask it, please.

You were upset that the country was reading that you had begged a woman to -- to get back into the relationship?

In this instance, no.

Okay. Now, in October of 1993, there was another very severe episode with Nicole, right?

Yes.

You hesitated. Not sure that it was severe?

Yes. It was severe. Severe -- I mean you -- it certainly wasn't severe in terms of '89, which I truly thought was severe. I didn't think the '93 incident was nearly -- in the realm of the '89 incident.

Now, the entire time that you were -- this is October 25, 1993?

Yes.

The entire time that you were arguing with Nicole that night, there was another person there on the premises, right?

I would say most of my argument when the other person was on the premises was me venting to him because Nicole was upstairs.

And that person is Kato Kaelin?

Kato Kaelin.

Okay. Now, what happened that evening, sir? You were at Nicole's house, and you got into an argument with her because you saw a picture of this guy, Keith?

That's absolutely wrong. I mean that became a part of the argument once it began. But that's absolutely wrong.

Excuse me. You can just answer yes or no.

No.

You got into an argument with Nicole because you saw some photos that upset you, right?

That became a part of the argument after the argument began.

Okay.

Yes.

And you then left the condominium because you were upset, right?

Not -- no, that's not correct. I think I left -- when I left there hadn't been an argument. I left because I didn't want to argue.

You were upset and you left, right?

Yes.

And you were upset and you didn't want to get into an argument, correct?

Yes.

And this is at night, right?

Yes.

And you drove the short distance to Rockingham, right?

That's correct.

And then you called Nicole, right?

No, I called her back. She called me. I was on the phone, and I returned her call.

And the two of you argued on the phone now, right?

Yes, on the -- I don't know if we argued. She made a point to me that I said I wouldn't -- I wouldn't leave if there was something to talk about, we would argue it out. So essentially it was her saying to me I wasn't doing what I said I would do.

And she hung up on you?

She may have hung up, yes.

And you called her back and she hung up on you again?

I don't think so. I may have called as I was coming over and her phone was -- either it was busy or off the hook.

And then at some point you called back, and the phone was busy, and you could not get through as though it had been put off the line, true?

Objection.

I don't think so.

Objection.

Sustained.

And --

Just a minute.

Sustained.

(BY MR. PETROCELLI) Okay. At some point while you were dealing with Nicole you tried to call her and could not get through, you got a busy signal, true?

Yes, I was -- yes.

And when you were unable to get through, you jumped in your car, your Bronco, your white Bronco, and you high-tailed it over to Nicole's; is that right?

My knees were such that I couldn't jump anywhere.

Okay.

I drove over because I thought she made a valid point, I shouldn't have left, I should have stayed and talked it out.

You got in your car and you went over to Nicole's, right?

Yes.

And you parked the car not against the curb but sort of just in front of the house, right?

In front of her car, yes.

And you left your lights on, right?

Yes.

And you went inside and you kicked the door, true?

Well, there was a lot that happened in between that and the portion that you're talking about, but essentially, eventually I kicked the door, yes.

You kicked the door to get inside right?

Yes.

And you broke the door, right?

Not the glass. It was a glass door. But I -- part of the door was -- had been previously cracked and when I -- as she closed it, I kicked it and I think a piece came off it, yes.

And fair to say that you were enraged when you kicked that door down, right?

I was pretty upset, yes.

And fair to say that Nicole was extremely upset, right?

She was pretty upset, yes.

And fair to say that Nicole expressed to you great fear, fear of you, correct?

Not at all, not at any time that night did she express any fear to me.

You heard that 911 tape, sir, did you not?

Yes.

Yes.

-- did you not?

You understood that she was afraid of you when she said that?

No, because she was not talking to me the way she was talking on the phone. And before she got off the phone, she came back down into the room that I was at, which indicated to me, even today, that she obviously wasn't afraid. If she thought I was doing something, she would have stayed in the room.

So you think she just lied to the 911 operator?

Yes, I think -- I think she was trying to control --

You just answered my question.

Yes.

And you've heard this other tape that you called the surreptitious tape?

Yes, I did.

And you heard Nicole being asked, are you afraid of him harming you? She said I got scared. Scared of him physically harming you? And she answered yes.

You heard that, right?

Yes.

Okay. And you think that was a lie also, right?

Well, I knew it was because she came into the room that I was in --

Excuse me. Yes or no?

I think that was a lie, yes.

And you heard on that tape Nicole say I got frightened tonight. When he gets this crazed, I get scared . . . hit me. He does not look like himself, he gets a very animal look in him, his veins pop out and his eyes get black. It was more precaution thank anything. I just always believed if it happened once more it would be the last time.

You remember hearing Nicole say those things?

No. I read that in your transcript.

You've read that before today, haven't you?

Yes.

And it is true, sir, that Nicole expressed to you in the course of your relationship, her fear of you when you got mad and angry and enraged, true?

Yes.

And it's true, sir, that when you did get mad and angry, that you would acquire a very animal like look, correct?

Yeah -- I never -- I can never recall being mad and looking in a mirror.

Well, Nicole told you I'm afraid when you look like that, right?

No, she told me when you get mad -- you really scare me when you get mad. She told me that actually the next day from this incident.

Oh, that was the first time she ever told you that, is that your testimony, sir?

She may have said before that she hates it when I get mad, yes.

And you knew she was frightened that night?

Debate with whom?

With whoever wants to debate it. I don't think her actions, besides the phone call, said she was afraid, she came down into a room that I was in, after she told the police she was afraid. I was standing there. I can't imagine a person who would be afraid would come down into the room that the person's afraid of is in.

You think this is a debate, sir?

Pardon me?

You think this is a debate?

No.

Now, the police officers who showed up there that evening, the Los Angeles police officers, they told you that because of your celebrity status they wanted to keep this as small as possible, right?

I believe one of the guys said that, yes.

They treated you fairly, didn't they?

Other than surreptitiously taping me and using it for their personal use, outside of that, I thought it was, you know, how they handled it, then I thought they defused the situation, yes.

You weren't arrested, were you?

No.

And by the way, in 1989 when the police came and confronted you ran, didn't you?

No.

You took off, right?

I left at a certain point and went to another friend's house, yes.

And you knew the police were waiting for you, right?

No.

You thought they had gone?

Yes.

Okay. So you didn't have any idea that the Police Department had told you that they wanted to take you in?

They never told me that.

So you just felt you were free to go, right?

No. I felt it was wise that I leave. I was advised by my daughter and the housekeeper, you know, you're -- you're -- O.J., you can't be getting into a fight with this phrase that they used to describe this detective -- Officer Edward, and I just left.

Now, when you left, sir, the police were still on your property, right?

No, they were never as far as I know -- I think Mr. Edwards may have walked on originally. After that they were never on my property.

But what I mean by that they were still there waiting outside the gates, right?

I don't know, I couldn't see on the Ashford side.

You couldn't see because they were on Ashford and you went out Rockingham, right?

Yes, that's my exit from my property.

You can't see Ashford from Rockingham, correct?

I couldn't see where they were.

All right. And they were right outside the Ashford gate, weren't they?

They weren't where the gate was. But I have a wall on that side so if they were there, they would have been out of my vision, behind the wall.

And it was dark out, right?

Yes.

Okay. But you knew they were there when you left.

I suspected they were there, yes.

And you knew Nicole was in the car, right?

I assumed she was this -- the car, yes.

And by the way, you asked your loyal servant, Michelle, to go get Nicole out of the car?

I object to that characterization.

Did you tell Michelle to go get Nicole out of the car and bring her in?

I think Michelle did that on her own initiative.

You didn't have anything to do with that?

I don't know. We were all there.

Did you tell Michelle to go get Nicole, get her out of police car, and get her inside, yes or no?

I don't recall.

You don't recall?

No.

You said you remember everything you did that night?

Most things I do remember.

But you don't remember that?

I don't remember specifically --

Okay.

-- what --

Okay.

-- were being said then, no.

Okay. Now, after this 1993 incident, you continued to see Nicole, correct, the October 1993 incident?

Yes.

By the way, there was an incident the Christmas you went to the home of the -- the Jenners, right?

Yes.

You went with?

Christmas Eve.

Christmas Eve. You went with Nicole, your two children, and Kato Kaelin, right?

Yes.

You drove over there and you went inside the Jenner home, right?

Yes.

And then, at some point in time you saw this guy there named Joseph, who you believed Nicole had dated when you and she were separated, right?

Yes.

And that upset you so much that you just got up and took off and the whole family left, correct?

Absolutely wrong.

And there was a big argument in the car on the way home, true?

No. There were some words between me and her that went for about a minute, and we went home and we had our Thanksgiving -- I mean Christmas meal, opened gifts, Nicole stayed with me that night, and everything was fine.

Seeing Joseph there upset you and causes you -- caused you to leave, correct?

Not at all.

Now, let's turn to the 1994 time frame, sir.

In March of -- end of March, Nicole and you went off to Cabo San Lucas, right?

Yes.

And your children were there also?

Yes.

And Nicole had some friend there and their children as well, right?

Yes.

And your reconciliation now, is like 10 months in progress or so?

Yes, approximately.

And as you said earlier, things were going pretty good in your mind, at this point in time, right?

At this point in time, I think for the first time I felt that there was a chance this was going to work.

And you had a great time in Cabo with Nicole on April 1, 2 and 3 of 1994, true?

A super time, yes.

And after that -- that short vacation, you came back to Los Angeles to get ready to go to Puerto Rico?

No. I came back to work. I had to leave on Easter Sunday because I had to start the day -- the next day on the job, and Nicole and the rest of the people stayed in the house that I rented down there.

Well, you got to Puerto Rico sometime in early April, right?

Yeah, eventually I went to Puerto Rico, yes.

This was to film your movie "Frogman," right?

Yes.

And you said you started to work in Los Angeles initially on the movie?

Yes.

Okay. Now, after the Cabo trip and while you were working on Frogman in LA, then in Puerto Rico, after this wonderful trip you had with Nicole, you're thinking things may work out for the first time, all of the sudden you got kind of a cold shoulder from Nicole, true?

I don't -- I don't understand what you're saying.

You don't understand what I mean?

No.

Didn't you start calling Nicole from Puerto Rico and you weren't getting your phone calls returned, sir?

No. I called one day and she was great and I called the next day and she was weird, and I called the next day or she would call me and she was great and the next day she was strange.

So you thought Nicole was acting very erratically?

Possibly more so than I'd ever known her to be in my life.

And you started calling up Nicole's friends, Cora Fischman, Ron Fischman, Faye Resnick, and saying what's wrong with Nicole, right?

Yeah. I think -- I don't know if I talked to Cora because Nicole had -- had said that actually -- essentially that Cora was the cause of her erratic behavior.

Can you just stay with the answer --

No.

-- to my question?

The answer would be no, not as you said it.

You started talking to Nicole's friends, and even Nicole's mom about why is Nicole not responding to you as she had been in Cabo; is that a fair statement, sir?

No. I think you mischaracterized.

Please answer.

No, you mischaracterized.

Please answer yes or no?

No.

Thank you. And you were pretty upset that having thought things were going to work out now, things didn't look so good, right?

I -- I wanted out, yes.

And you came back into Los Angeles filming Frogman in Puerto Rico around what May 1, thereabouts?

Roughly.

Roughly?

Yes.

Okay. And you and Nicole were having sort of a difficult time the first week or so of May, right?

I was, she wasn't. She had -- she had said she loved me, and she was sorry about the way she acted and she picked me up at the airport, but I, at that point, wanted out.

And you decided to go and visit the family on Mother's Day at the Brown house, correct?

Well, I mean it was -- it was Mother's Day. That's where we were spending Mother's Day.

You worked very late and into the evening Friday, and you drove all the way down there?

Yes.

And got in sort of the middle of the morning, right?

I got in about 5:30, 6 in the morning.

And you and Nicole had a planned date to go out on Saturday night and Judy and Lou would take care of the children and so forth?

That's correct.

And when you got to the house on Saturday you and Nicole had a place down there, right?

Yeah, I had a place down there, yes.

And Nicole didn't want to go out, right?

Well, she wanted to go out, she got dressed, but when she got to the door she went into something I've never seen, she started shaking and she -- her words was, look at me, I'm having a nervous breakdown.

And you got kind of angry at her, didn't you?

I got --

True?

I think more concerned than angry.

Did you get angry, sir?

I got more concerned than angry.

I didn't ask you about concerned.

There was an element, yeah, I was.

There was?

Yeah.

Some anger there?

There was some anger there.

Okay. And the two of you argued, right?

No, we did not argue.

And Nicole didn't want to go out, right?

She said, look at me, how can I go out like this.

Isn't it true that you had a little altercation with her that night?

No.

Got on the bed and sort of held her shoulders down?

Absolutely not.

You deny that, don't you?

No, when she was shaking, I was hugging her and said, Nicole, what's the matter? She couldn't explain what was wrong and why she was feeling the way she was feeling, she just couldn't explain it.

Ultimately you got out to dinner that night?

Yes, yes, we did.

Then the next day, you had Mother's Day, correct, at the Browns?

Yeah, it was pretty surprising because the next day everything was fine.

And after Mother's Day, you and Nicole continued to sort of try to make this thing work, right?

Absolutely wrong.

You had nothing to do with her after Mother's Day, is that your testimony?

That's not correct, but it's absolutely wrong that we continued to work on the relationship. It ended either that night -- I'm not sure, or the next night it ended, and I immediately -- immediately started publicly dating Paula again.

Now, it's your testimony, sir, that you broke off this relationship on May 10, correct?

Yeah, I instigated it but when we sat and talked about it, we both agreed.

Okay. And it's not -- it's -- withdrawn.

Isn't it true, sir, that Nicole ended this relationship with you on May 22, 1994, not May 10, not at your instigation but at her instigation; isn't that true?

Absolutely wrong.

Isn't it true that on May 22 you went to Nicole's condominium that night on Bundy, correct?

Yes.

And the two of you talked about your relationship, correct?

Yeah, we talked about a lot of things, yes.

And you, on the 19th of May, you had just given Nicole an expensive birthday present three days earlier, correct?

Expensive is a relative term, but, yeah, I gave her a couple presents.

Five or six grand, whatever, right?

Yes.

Some kind of emerald bracelet?

Yes.

And she took it, right?

Yes.

And three days later on the 22 of May, three days after you gave her this expensive gift, Nicole returned it to you that night, right?

Yes.

And you then asked for the earrings you had just gotten for her, right?

I think the earrings -- I can't recall if I had talked about the earrings, but I hadn't just gotten them for her. I think that came up first.

You asked for the earrings back?

I asked for the check back.

Okay. And just so the jury understands, you had bought Nicole and helped design some earrings a while ago and they were stolen and she got insurance money, right?

She said they were stolen.

Okay. You think --

You want me to explain this?

Why don't you explain it. Go ahead, explain this.

She -- when we got back together there were some earrings I had made for her previously, and she said she had lost them, they got stolen, it really hurt her that she lost them. So at a previous -- I don't recall if it was Valentine's Day or something like that, I went to a jeweler and had the earrings remade, and it took him a while to make them because a few times when they came back they weren't exactly the way we wanted them. Eventually he got them made.

Unbeknownst to me, my office sent him (sic) a check. So when the insurance check came for the earrings, $10,000, my office gave the check to Nicole.

So at this point -- I mean I paid an additional 9 or 10,000 for the earrings, I should have the insurance check. I should have one or the other. The insurance check -- and she said she had spent the money from the insurance check.

Okay. So you --

Okay.

So you said, hey, you can't have both of them, right?

No, I said where's the check. She said I don't have the check, so here's the earrings.

So bottom line though, Mr. Simpson, May 22, 1994, you're at 875 South Bundy with Nicole and she returns the earrings, or you ask for them back, she returns the bracelet, and that was the official end of your reconciliation with her, true?

That's absolutely wrong.

And if Nicole wrote in her diary -- in her notes that "we officially split up on that evening," you would say that that was false, correct?

I'm going to object, Your Honor.

There was supposed to have been a hearing relative to that.

Overruled.

(BY MR. PETROCELLI) You may answer.

I think everyone who knew us then knew that that was false.

Well, I'm not asking about everyone?

Well, it was false. It was absolutely false. I had started dating Paula the day after Mother's Day -- or two days after Mother's Day, with my kids, publicly.

What do you mean publicly?

Publicly. We went to public places together, we were, you know, seen together, some of her friends saw us together holding hands. I mean it couldn't be any clearer than that.

Now, you were still publicly or otherwise dating Paula, let's say between Mother's Day and May 22, okay. Let's focus on that --

Yes.

-- time period.

Yes.

You were still extremely confused and frustrated and upset that your relationship with Nicole was coming to an end --

Argumentative, compound.

Overruled.

Correct, sir?

I wasn't confused.

Were you --

Upset, but I was -- it was a disappointment that we couldn't make it work, but we were getting along so well. I thought it was for the best.

Now, were you upset that the relationship had ended yes or no?

Yes, I think after a year and 17 years, I wish --

You can answer just yes or no, sir?

There was an element of being upset.

Just an element?

Just an element, yes.

And were you frustrated that it had come to an end, yes or no?

Absolutely not, no. I don't think it was a frustration. Yeah. I think there was an element that the relationship had ended after trying for a year, but I think among -- I was relieved and I think among everyone who knew me, no one heard me complain and I -- I just went on. I mean I was --

So there was an element of being upset but no frustration; is that what you're saying, yes or no?

Yes. I mean --

Please answer the question yes or no.

Sorta. I can't answer the question yes or no.

And you, in fact, were trying to win Nicole back during this two-week period?

No.

Correct?

Not at all.

Are you trying to say to this jury that after all this time together, you were able to, boom, cut the cord on May 10?

Argumentative.

Overruled.

Argumentative.

Possibly as cleanly as anything could possibly --

(BY MR. PETROCELLI) So is this a yes?

Emotionally it was cut, yes.

You did cut it, boom?

Yes.

Just like that?

Yes.

Over?

Yeah.

Is that --

I mean I still cared about her, but yes, it was -- it was -- I had no problem with seeing Paula and it had been public and, yes.

And so as of May 10, you were able to emotionally, and otherwise, immediately cut the cord with Nicole; is that what you were saying?

Your Honor, this is asked and answered.

(BY MR. PETROCELLI) Yes or no?

Wait a minute. It's argumentative. I object to him saying yes or no after every question.

Overruled.

The witness can answer the question the way he sees fit.

No speaking objections.

I can't answer that yes or no. I can't answer that yes or no.

(BY MR. PETROCELLI) Okay.

I can't.

You can't.

I immediately cut any effort to reconcile with Nicole. I was happy to move on, but I was still very, very much concerned about Nicole.

Were you able to cut it off right then and there, yes or no?

Our relationship, yes. Cut off our relationship, yes.

And your emotional attachment?

Emotionally I was still very -- you know, this is a woman I loved, okay, I have always loved her, when we were apart we always said we loved each other even when we weren't married.

The answer was you were not able to emotionally cut the cord on May 10; is that true?

Objection, that's vague, ambiguous, to emotionally cut the cord?

I still haven't --

Excuse me. Overruled.

You may answer.

I still haven't cut the cord with Marguerite emotionally and I've not been married to her for 20 years.

(BY MR. PETROCELLI) I didn't ask about Marguerite. Can you answer that question?

I would say I can't answer that question. Any answer I'd give would be misleading.

So there was -- you're not able to answer a straightforward question?

I don't think it's a straightforward question.

I object.

You cannot tell this jury one way or the other whether you cut or didn't cut off your emotional attachment to Nicole as of May 10.

I could never cut off my emotional attachment to Nicole.

Okay. So then from May 10, until the end of Nicole's life, you still had an emotional attachment to Nicole, true?

Thank you.

Now, four days after Nicole's -- after Mother's Day on May 10, you with me?

I'm sorry?

Four days after Mother's Day, May 14, you went off to New York, right?

Yes, I -- that week I went to New York, yes.

And May 14 was Sydney's Holy Communion, right?

Yes.

A big family event?

Yes.

And you missed it, right?

Yes.

And you had a big thing to attend that you couldn't get out of?

That's right, everything humanly possible to get out of --

In fact --

They couldn't let me out.

You tried?

I did everything a person could possibly do in business to get out of it and couldn't.

And Nicole was extremely upset with you that you had missed that even though you had made every human effort to get out of it, right?

She didn't show me that, you know, so I never saw her being upset with me for it.

She never told you she was upset about that?

No. She asked me could I get out. When she told me about it, I was -- it was sort of late, I was committed to what I was doing. And then I called the people who were doing it, I called the chairman of the board of Hertz, I did everything I could do to get out of this, you know, important date that they had, and they -- they couldn't let me out of it.

Sir, it's your testimony to the jury that Nicole never expressed to you her feelings that she was upset you couldn't be there; is that correct?

She had told me previously that she wished I could be there. And I told her the problems I was having getting out of the affairs. I said I wish you had told me earlier so that I could have made some preparations for this.

And she told you she was upset and wanted you to stay?

She didn't say she was upset. She didn't use the word upset.

You've answered the question.

Okay.

Now, when you went back east to New York, you played golf on May 16 with a man named Frank Olson who was the President of Hertz, right?

Yeah, Chairman of Hertz.

And played in New Jersey, right?

Yes.

With Frank and a couple of other people, right?

Yes.

And at that time, you told Frank Olson that you were very upset about breaking up with Nicole, true?

I don't believe so.

Okay. You told Frank Olson that you were thinking about moving to New York to get away from it all, true?

I already had a place in New York. I think I said I was going to move to Florida to get away from it all, which had been my plan previously, and my plan at this point in time.

So at this point in time, with the relationship with Nicole having come to an end, you were ready to move back east to get away from it all, true?

Yes. For a certain time I was going to move previously but I didn't move because Nicole, you know, wanted --

Excuse me, sir, you don't have to --

Okay.

-- keep answering.

I'm sorry.

It'll move along a lot quicker.

Now, in fact, with Mr. Olson, you tried -- he kept trying to change the subject and you kept coming back to talking about Nicole, true?

No. He kept talking about his problems with his wife. That's what we were talking. We were sharing problems with -- with our relationships.

So it's untrue?

Yes, that's untrue.

Okay. After you came back from that Hertz trip, Nicole, around her birthday time, had taken ill, right?

Yes.

Around middle of May, her birthday, May 19?

I got back from the trip.

Is that true?

Yes.

Okay. And Nicole was kind of bedridden, right?

Yes.

And you helped out a couple days by bringing over scones and coffee and going to Rosti's and bringing Italian food over and those sorts of things, right?

Yeah, I helped out.

Okay.

I kind of tried to nurse her somewhat, yes.

And during this period of time, May 19, is when she had her birthday and you bought her an emerald bracelet and gave it to her, together with a cigarette lighter, correct?

I gave it to her. I didn't buy it for her, but I gave it to her, yes.

Well, you bought this bracelet for her?

No.

Did you not?

No.

You told the LA Police detectives who interviewed you on June 13, that you bought it for her, didn't you?

That's correct.

Okay. And certainly on June 13, only three weeks after May 19, that is a lot closer time than today, true?

Yes.

And in fact, you told the detectives who interviewed you, Detectives Thomas Lange and Phil Vannatter, on June 13, that you kind of were in a bad spot because you had bought the bracelet for Nicole, given it to her, she returned it to you, and you gave it to Paula and told Paula you had bought it for her, true?

That's true.

Okay. And now you're telling us that all that's false, right; yes or no?

It is false.

Okay.

It's partially true. But if you what me to explain it's a very simple explanation and I think you will understand if you give me the opportunity to explain.

I think I understand, sir.

Okay. All right.

Now -- and by the way, your lawyers said something earlier in talking about the accuracy of this tape recorded interview.

I just want to read from your deposition. Page 186, Mr. Baker. (Reading.) Question: Line 7, this is referring to the tape recorded interview that we had been discussing with the police? Answer: Yes. Question: During the time they talked to you in the room they recorded it, yes? Answer: During the time the recording was on, it appears to me that from what I can recall recorded everything that we talked about while the recording was on? Answer: Well, while the recording was on.

(BY MR. PETROCELLI) So what you said in this statement you don't quarrel with?

I object, Your Honor.

(BY MR. PETROCELLI) Correct?

I object. Just a minute.

No speaking objections.

I'm not listening to you as my lawyer. I can tell you that.

There isn't an objection.

He's talking about a recorded statement not --

Excuse me.

-- Not the transcript of that recorded statement.

Excuse me. Overruled.

(BY MR. PETROCELLI) You've read the transcript of the interview that was recorded, right?

Yes.

And what I just asked you about the bracelet was on the tape, and was on the transcript, right?

Yes.

Okay.