Thank you. THOMAS LANGE the witness on the stand at the time of the luncheon recess, having been previously duly sworn, was examined and testified further as follows: REDIRECT EXAMINATION BY MR. MEDVENE:
You made reference to the pendant when you were questioned today and the fact that it was kept in your desk drawer for a period of time because you said it wasn't practical to book it. And you held it for a purpose.
What purpose did you hold it for?
From time to time, there are items from a crime scene in a case that an investigator may want to hold onto for personal identification purposes. It's a lot more practical to do that than to book an item and not be able to have access to it when you want it.
So that's why I held onto that particular pendant.
There was reference to the Reebok shoes. Approximately what time did you receive those shoes?
Sustained.
(BY MR. MEDVENE) What did you do with the shoes?
Excuse me. When did you book the shoes?
The following morning, at the lab, turned them over to Mr. Matheson for analyzing. That would have been the 14th of June.
Now, you made reference to a key being taken out of a duffel bag.
Who was present when that key was taken out of the duffel bag; that is, the Smokey the Bear key --
There were other keys taken out. I believe I testified to two rings. It was myself and my partner, Detective Vannatter, Detective Dennis Payne. I believe Captain Gartland was present, District Attorney Marcia Clark, District Attorney Bill Hodgman, and I believe Detective Pietrantoni, P-I-E-T-A-R-N-T-O-N-I, I believe.
I object, Your Honor. It's irrelevant what the purpose was. It's outside the scope, as well.
To get a lock constructed from those keys.
(BY MR. MEDVENE) I will -- I'm going to place on the TV monitor what's been marked Exhibit 2109.
(BY MR. MEDVENE) Can you tell me what -- could you first go to the broad shot.
Can you tell me what that is?
Can you then go to date and time property taken into police custody --
Can you zoom in on that, please.
Would you now zoom in, please, to the first paragraph.
Does that make any reference to the Smokey the Bear key ring?
Property recovered pursuant to a 187 investigation, which is murder. Item 286 recovered from the owner of the Mezzaluna, which is the top time card, states by who, by Detective Payne.
Items 289, 290, and 291, which are the keys in question, retrieved at 360 North Rockingham, where the bag was picked up on --
(BY MR. MEDVENE) Next area, some question about a menu. Would you put up -- and whether or not a menu was photographed at the crime scene.
That's the right foot of victim Brown, and additionally, that's a fast-food Oriental menu below the angle area.
Thank you.
Did you do any investigation to make a determination whether that menu was generally distributed to the Bundy neighborhood?
Now, with reference to July 3 and the walk-through you've told us about, in which there was some discussion of the rear gate, you used the word "additional" in your report.
What did you mean by the word "additional?"
Yesterday, you were asked some questions regarding shoe prints.
Did you see more than one pattern of bloody shoe prints on the Bundy walkway?
Yesterday, you made reference to a supplemental arrest report that you prepared. I believe it was marked 1061.
Can you tell us when that report was written?
It was written over a period of three or four days. The last paragraph was written on June 17. The bulk of the information in this was written about June 15.
Did you know on June 13, at about 5:00 a.m. in the morning, that Detective Phillips had stated that Mr. Simpson and Ms. Brown had been embroiled in a previous domestic-violence situation or situations, one of them resulting in the arrest of Mr. Simpson?
That particular follow-up report is a compilation of events and incidents that occurred from the outset of this investigation, to the point where we filed the case with the district attorney's office.
The district attorney's office requires this form before they file any case, which is a chronological statement of the information. You have to date it. As a consequence, this report was made prior to filing.
I will clear up the record if I have the wrong number, Your Honor.
If I could proceed, then I'll clear it up, unless you want me to do it now.
Your Honor, it was originally offered by the defense, but they did not give it an exhibit number at the time. So maybe we can just give it the next in order.
(BY MR. MEDVENE) When did you first receive the information that Mr. Simpson and Ms. Brown had been involved in previous domestic-violence situations, one of them resulting in Mr. Simpson's arrest?
Yesterday, when counsel questioned you, there was some reference to the word "rapport" in connection with your seeing Mr. Simpson.
What was your purpose in going to see Mr. Simpson?
Certainly that was part of it, to attempt to build a rapport, to get to know him, because he certainly could have information that could help us in this investigation. As a matter of fact, he may have immediate information that could help us point in the direction that morning. We certainly don't know until we ask him. She may have been getting threats. There may have been a suspect that he was familiar with he could have told us about. Being so close and having -- sharing the children, and this type of a situation. So, in my mind, it was very important to do that.
With reference to fingerprints, any unidentified prints, as you sit here, do you recall any that were found in the area where the murders occurred?
Now, you made reference to an object that was utilized to cover Ms. Brown. Can you describe that object?
I believe you're referring to the blanket.
It was a hospital blanket, white in color. It was -- had tightly woven fabric. It appeared cleaned -- freshly laundered. And basically, that's it.
It was a hospital blanket.
What time of the morning, approximately, if you recall, did you make a request for something to cover Ms. Brown?
At a crime scene, an investigator has to be concerned with contamination with the crime scene, but he also has to be concerned with the compromising of a crime scene.
With the amount of cameras, the multitude of media across the street, sitting up on a hill, shooting directly down within 120 feet of the body -- the body being evidence; the position that body is in is evidence; any wounds on that body are evidence; any blood appearance on that body is evidence; the clothing on that body is evidence; the way that clothing is torn left to right or how that clothing appears on the body is evidence.
Jewelry or lack thereof on the body is evidence. The number of wounds are evidence. Everything having to do with that body is evidence.
To leave that body exposed, number one, is to leave it open to all of the media of the world to zoom in on with cameras that can basically highlight a human hair at 200 feet, and we would have our evidence that I want to keep to myself broadcast all over the world.
This is what an investigator calls keys. Keys are things that I could use to eliminate a potential suspect or a witness in this case, especially in a high profile case.
As a consequence, I had to protect them. I had to make a decision to protect them this way. That's why the blanket.
There's also a secondary consideration. Certainly, regarding that body in public, if this woman's family were to turn on their television set and see their daughter, it certainly wouldn't go over too well, either. However, I have to say that is a secondary consideration, and the main reason is really the previous reason that I stated.
I have nothing further, Your Honor.
Thank you very much. RECROSS-EXAMINATION BY MR. BAKER:
To leave that body exposed, number one, is to leave it open to all of the media of the world to zoom in on with cameras that can basically highlight a human hair at 200 feet, and we would have our evidence that I want to keep to myself broadcast all over the world. This is what an investigator calls keys.
She may have been getting threats. There may have been a suspect that he was familiar with he could have told us about. Being so close and having -- sharing the children, and this type of a situation. So, in my mind, it was very important to do that.
There's also a secondary consideration. Certainly, regarding that body in public, if this woman's family were to turn on their television set and see their daughter, it certainly wouldn't go over too well, either. However, I have to say that is a secondary consideration.
I believed it was later on in the day, perhaps late afternoon or the evening of June 13.