(BY MR. PETROCELLI) Sorry, Mr. Goldman.
You were saying after Ron's death, you found out some information about his plans to open up a business, a restaurant?
Yeah.
After Ron was murdered, we were cleaning out Ron's apartment, and we found a -- a file with all kinds of information in it.
There were proposed menus, ideas for the kinds of things that Ron wanted to have on the menu. He had names of various chefs that he had met, had names of people that were apparently interested in -- in -- in being involved. And he had a drawing of what he wanted his restaurant to look like.
I'm sorry.
It's the Egyptian symbol that Ron wore around his neck. It was an Egyptian symbol, the round shape with the line across it, and then the vertical line below it, was the Egyptian symbol of an ankh.
Yeah.
Besides wanting a restaurant, Ron wanted only two other things: Wanted to be married and have children.
Ron -- Ron absolutely adored kids. It was probably part of the reason why he was so good at his job at the camp; was also the reason why he took a job as -- as a tennis coach for the high-school tennis team.
When we were ever with any of our friends who had little kids, as with Michael and Lauren, especially, when they were little, Ron was always like the Pied Piper. And he'd have little kids following him all over the place. And Ron wanted to have kids of his own.
Ron picked a name out of -- I'm not sure where it came from, but he had decided that he was going to name his first child Dakota, whether it was a boy or a girl.
Never had that chance.
Mr. -- I'm sorry.
Focusing on the last several months -- several months of Ron's life, did you see him during that period of time -- let's say from Lauren's Bat Mitzvah, in November of '93, till Ron's death in June of 1994?
Yeah. We spent Thanksgiving together, my birthday in December, Kim's birthday, the end of December. Patty's birthday in February. Michael's birthday in March. Mother's Day --
Amazing I can remember these.
Mother's Day in May.
Something tells me I'm missing something.
Yeah. Ron and I always found a way to see each other. He had -- he had his schedule for work, was always varying from day shifts to night shifts. But I'd either meet him at work or we'd meet somewhere. Yeah. Yeah, we always found a way to meet, or he was always coming out to the house.
Now, this period of time, end of '93 into '94, by then, had Ron moved out of your home again?
Yes. He was -- he played softball in Brentwood with a bunch of kids.
My favorite picture of him.
It meant eternal life.
Doesn't wear it anymore; Kim wears it now.
Never had that chance.
I wish he hadn't moved there.
Never, ever be the same. A hole missing.