I'd move to strike. Speculative. I may have, you may have, I don't remember, I mean it's --
You have an eavesdropper behind you.
MR. P. BAKER: I want to have them all get along.
Yeah, yellow and blue.
We're almost to the end. We're doing the phone call the next day. No. Now go right here.
We did that already.
Wherever it's highlighted.
MR. P. BAKER: Why do you -- did you change colors? I'm joking.
-- after Simpson returned from Chicago on the 13th, on the next day, he called Kilduff and he called Merrill up, purportedly to apologize for having been brusque the day before. And then the subject turned to golf clubs, getting them back. And I'm eliciting that conversation.
Okay. But why don't you let me object first, so we don't waste time. I obviously don't have an objection to the general -- what the general subject is. But his reaction and his state of mind, I have an objection to Kilduff -- I mean Merrill -- where he says he was surprised. I have an objection to that.
It goes to the credibility of Mr. Simpson's explanation that he was calling to apologize. This was a surprise that he received this phone call.
It's not offered for a state of mind; it's offered to show that it was -- what his perception of the conversation was.
I'm entitled to elicit that, that the person on the phone was really surprised to get such a call from someone he didn't know, never met before, other than the day before. It's not like it's a long-time relationship. They didn't know each other, and the guy's calling to apologize.
That's the whole point of it, of the conversation. It's pretextual [sic] with what my argument will be, that it was designed to find out about the golf clubs which he was fervently concerned about. That's the whole point of what I have been reading to get to this point. Now that I'm getting to the punch line, he wants to sustain the objection.
I'm entitled to get the reaction. It's a -- it's the reaction of the person who's having the direct phone call.
I can argue the fact. I have to elicit his reaction. It's only a couple questions.
No. I find that to be, like I said before, and as I said here, it's argumentative and it's irrelevant. That's the fact that he makes the phone call.
The fact he makes the phone call, the substance of the phone call -- I don't like it, but it's relevant.
You may put in that portion where he called and apologized, but the witness's reaction of surprise, I think, is irrelevant.
KEY QUOTEIt's pretextual with what my argument will be, that it was designed to find out about the golf clubs which he was fervently concerned about. That's the whole point of what I have been reading to get to this point.
That's a great argument for the jury, but it's not --
You may put in that portion where he called and apologized, but the witness's reaction of surprise, I think, is irrelevant.
"Fastly" is not a word, but go ahead.